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qwizoking

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Yea..iso purges wonderfully. That's why you can use iso or etoh/ a winterize to purge...in fact redissolving a hexane wash in iso/etoh is almost the only way to get rid of the taste(at 30ppm)

But if its a solid powder even using butane I expect its fully purged... are you sure it was butane that was escaping

Purging is really only necessary for the alkanes
 

qwizoking

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I relate mine to pure cocaine-snow..if you've never dealt with that well.......its perfectly stable at room temp but a bit oily when warmed kinda melts on your finger(dissolve is a better word)..you can pinch some up, gram it out in bags..its not sticky and yea mid 90's till it sticks together

Huge huge market where I am...its instantly recognized as the purest hash as its white crystals..they jump on this shit and smokes much better than chunks like a dab
 

BCOGYODA

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Well I thought it was butane purging but maybe it is just the oil boiling under the purge? I was told that if the bubbles are rainbow like that is butane purging out. But maybe I was looking at the other pirex in the chamber cause I was purging two batches at the same time..

I haven't even seen any white extract around in the dispensaries here or heard anyone talk about it. We are way behind I think here in BC with dabbing and extracts compared to some of the USA states.

I'll have to look into it more and experiment with it that's for sure.
I wish we had a lab here that tested for residual solvents etc.
Looks like I have to get my stuff tested in Seattle Washington if I want a complete fully professional analysis of my extracts. That makes things really tough for us out here.
 

Grow Goddess

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Looking good bro..yea that's more like what you should have after purge

Diggin the pink look..is it pink in real life?
I've had some pink wax once only!
That's the pic I was gonna throw....when I get around to a comp
To each there own I suppose. I can't imagine why you would suggest that my iso extraction product should look like that. The maker even said it was made as BHO, they even state that it was not finished either. Also, it is stated that the pink is an illusion from lighting. It is difficult to judge without having all of the details for sure. Taste testing is also necessary. Looks does not mean everything.

Me personally, I prefer my concentrates to be transparent whether it is an oil or shatter. The products I have been making are for my own personal use anyway. I don't sell, but have given some away in the past.

Here is some strawberry cough I just finished manicuring and I will be making them bad nugs into oil soon. Got to get them buds dry, bone dry first. Can't wait either! Best of both worlds. Not sure if I like RSO or QWISO better for vaporizing. Each is so different and both equally good. I am solving this problem. I am going to mix them 50/50. :) :weed: :-P

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Thundercat

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Those are some very pretty SC buds there! I'm sure that will make a nice tasty batch of errl.

I just broke up some dried cindy buds I forgot to weigh, and 7g of the dried platinum delight the trim came from that made the pink oil. They were frozen over night and I just gently crumbled them up and they are in the freezer in mason jars now. I'll prolly do the wash later this after noon, or atleast one of them.
 

BCOGYODA

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When I find a way to get my stuff to a full analytical lab I'll make another batch of the white powder and get it tested for residual butane so we can see for sure what's up.

Nice looking buds there GG
 

PJ Diaz

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I'm thinking yours comes out white because you harvest early so none of the tricomes have turned amber yet.
 

BCOGYODA

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I'm thinking yours comes out white because you harvest early so none of the tricomes have turned amber yet.
If you're talking to me that ain't the case at all. I harvest all my crops at 30% amber/70% cloudy. Check every crop. A clear trich crop would be a waste. THC would be VERY weak at that state. Cloudy you get max THC head high, with some amber you get strong stone with a bit of relax to give a bit of a body to it too.

I'm suspicious of this white powder. I suspect there's much more chemistry to it than what is known. I can't find any info on it on the net at all.
It's got a lot to do with the freezing temps of the extract solution and how that reacts with the oil. It's somehow putting it in a chemical "suspended" state.
I honestly don't think it's free of butane. I suspect there's quite a bit left in it actually. But this is just my own gut feelings towards it. I'm very curious about it so I'm gonna spend some time on it for sure.
 

PJ Diaz

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If you're talking to me that ain't the case at all. I harvest all my crops at 30% amber/70% cloudy. Check every crop. A clear trich crop would be a waste. THC would be VERY weak at that state. Cloudy you get max THC head high, with some amber you get strong stone with a bit of relax to give a bit of a body to it too.

I'm suspicious of this white powder. I suspect there's much more chemistry to it than what is known. I can't find any info on it on the net at all.
It's got a lot to do with the freezing temps of the extract solution and how that reacts with the oil. It's somehow putting it in a chemical "suspended" state.
I honestly don't think it's free of butane. I suspect there's quite a bit left in it actually. But this is just my own gut feelings towards it. I'm very curious about it so I'm gonna spend some time on it for sure.
No I wasn't talking to you, and I agree with most of what you are saying here. I was talking to qwizoking who says he harvests early. I don't understand why, but that's what he says.
 

qwizoking

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It is known that a seedling through veg plant contains about 2% thc(by weight). In small trichs covering every inch of the plant... in flower the long capitate stalked heads come out..
Yes you can get good (ish) hash off a plant In veg obviously will have a bit more plant waxes from the leaves


The plant contains a genetically predetermined ratio of terpenes and cannbinoids that can be altered slightly through environment but in the same environment its the same throughout the life cycle.. the plant continually metabolizes and excretes inside the trichome head until it begins to sinesce, at which point it stops producing precursory cannabinoids and terps begin to cyclicize as it amber's giving a different smell...

Whoever told you it wouldn't be potent or has a different high lied, it will get less racy however as it turns cloudy and amber...at cloudy you just know the trichs head is maxed out and not going to get bigger. the plant will literally have the exact ratio of thc just less overall with the smaller trichs heads...just more pot forum misinformation.....like seeded bud taking away from trich production lol

Amber heads are degraded thc and other compounds...not more potent in anyway


I harvest early to have the most thca possible sacrificing a slight amount of weight for overall supreme quality

And yes coming from my CHEMISTS perspective its fully purged..

In fact I put up the pic so that you knew your iso was purged when it looked like powder..check flams if you havent
Or the original thread
.and yes I've put it under vac before...I don't use butane and already told you that you really only need to the purge the anes....we look down on butane

I mean seriously people..all the forum misinfo and plain ignorance is why I only started helping out this section a few months ago. Why newbs come on here and question the already proven knowledgeable members I'll never know
 

Thundercat

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I don't know if the white powder BC got was even for the same reason as yours though Qwizo. Since he is using butane, it may have reacted differntly and perhaps the butane wasn't purged like the iso would have been. I don't know, it just seemed possible that this topic inparticular could vary greatly between solvents.
 

qwizoking

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In my opinion for it to end as that product its purged.. even using butane
Your going to always be able to purge slight amounts of tane out..even after winterizing 3 times and pulling vac there will still be a decent amount...definitely not enough to matter...but is that what were talking about here?
Because its going to be very difficult for you to get below parts per million..at what point is it contaminated to you?
For it to yield that powder in thin film there is relatively little tane and can be called fully purged

I wonder how foods and things are freeze dried with no heat?

Apologies if I came off a bit...... ya know
Much love tc(and everyone else :D).. ....and yes iso should be treated differently than tane and really shouldn't be talked about in the same context
 
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