Is this a wise choice for a new led!?

Tokintoucan

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If you're looking for a manufactured/pre-made light/plug n grow then I'd recommend looking into the Amare SE-250 or SE-450 depending on your yield desires. If it were me, I'd go w/ the 450, that way if you have a light intensity sensitive strain you can always turn off the monos & run it @ 300w. W/ these you'll have quality components ran @ 1/2 their rated consumption for decent efficiency, a 5 yr warranty, & the option to use the enhanced spectrum or veg w/ it too. I use these & am happy.
I have to admit I like the look of the amare lights but the prices seem insane
 

Hybridway

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The 400w cob is about 550$ the amare is 1000 at least lol. Also I've heard they basically use last years tech and charge this years price
I hear ya. It's more like 800 though & there's very lil difference from CXB's to whatever else is out there if that's what you're reffering to in tech. Especially when running 50%. No difference really aside from cost. If it's the absolute most efficient tech you're looking for, good luck keeping up. Seams like every 3-6 months it's changing. Not to mention no matter what cobs are used the system efficiency levels are about same in most decent pre-builds from comp. because they are trying to provide the most light output from a single fixture whilest still trying to beat HPS efficiency within proper margin. Most are shooting for 50% making the type of cob null n void basically. The only time the differences are seen are when one is going DIY & can run them @ the currents in which allow a vero or whatever to be more efficient then a Cree @ the same drive.
But you can't go wrong w/ a Timber kit either from what I hear. It's a nice Do it themselves light. Obviously much cheaper to produce to which saves you $.
 
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Jay7t5

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I'm happy for what it is. It replaced the hot noisy hps and worked. However I know there is better out there. Money isn't a massive issue, I just want the best light possible for 1x1m and I'm trying to find out what that is
Well I am in the similar position as you mate and I want the best so I don't get phased by average results from a average LED , my research has lead me to the Budmaster GOD 4 it's not 1mx1m but 80cmx80cm but has more than enough balls to cover it I've been told by icemud check his journal out,it also has 300%PAR output than a average 600HPS im sold on the osram SSL LEDs but shit man they're expensive £815 , my second choice is timber LED but they're in USA and the cost almost equals itself time i pay transport, and the other 1 I've found is California lightworks who also run Osram and have good results but again in the USA, when will someone Spot a gap in the market and open a LED kit outlet to give Budmaster and others competition here in uk there's enough clever bastard's on here who can design better than Budmaster lol
 

Growcob5

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For what reason? Sorry if this sounds stupid I'm still new to this. And that reassures me as there's nothing wrong with a little overkill if the option is there to dial it down. Thanks bro
Hay what u no Mr. , Tight home report or homegrown report Mr tight YouTube channel you need to go to him an email him he's got Cobb lights that he's been buying that use a hundred and twenty watts of electricity have 3070cxb for Cobb light with driver in it but its not for a4 by four or a3 by 3 I'm assuming it's by for a two and a half by 2 and a half but email Mr tight or go to his web page on YouTube and your see his Cobb late and want to his videos
 

Tokintoucan

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I hear ya. It's more like 800 though & there's very lil difference from CXB's to whatever else is out there if that's what you're reffering to in tech. Especially when running 50%. No difference really aside from cost. If it's the absolute most efficient tech you're looking for, good luck keeping up. Seams like every 3-6 months it's changing. Not to mention no matter what cobs are used the system efficiency levels are about same in most decent pre-builds from comp. because they are trying to provide the most light output from a single fixture whilest still trying to beat HPS efficiency within proper margin. Most are shooting for 50% making the type of cob null n void basically. The only time the differences are seen are when one is going DIY & can run them @ the currents in which allow a vero or whatever to be more efficient then a Cree @ the same drive.
But you can't go wrong w/ a Timber kit either from what I hear. It's a nice Do it themselves light. Obviously much cheaper to produce to which saves you $.
Where can I get the amare solar storm 450 for 800? It's nearly 1200 on their site
 

Hybridway

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I like the idea of the monos too. But surely I could just throw my viparspectra in for the same effect?
Ahh, I don't know about that. Sure, you could add some color w/ it but you won't get the even blend in spectral uniformity.
Plus the Vipers are mostly blue if I remember correctly? Like a wicked lot too. Not a happy flower enhancement IMO but who knows, maybe w/ some 27k cobs.
Something to also consider would be the inefficiency of the Viper diodes in comparison to top-bin Xp-G2 & 3 Cree diodes in the Amare's.
But yeah, I guess you could.
I have a 535w Hydroponics Hut burple/pink light & it won't blend w/ anything else w/ it's 90• lenses, tight beam angle. Great veg light though.
The 95cri full spectrum is sweet.
Aren't you in a 3'x3' or something? Might be tough to add the Viper to anything In that space.
 

Tokintoucan

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Ahh, I don't know about that. Sure, you could add some color w/ it but you won't get the even blend in spectral uniformity.
Plus the Vipers are mostly blue if I remember correctly? Like a wicked lot too. Not a happy flower enhancement IMO but who knows, maybe w/ some 27k cobs.
Something to also consider would be the inefficiency of the Viper diodes in comparison to top-bin Xp-G2 & 3 Cree diodes in the Amare's.
But yeah, I guess you could.
I have a 535w Hydroponics Hut burple/pink light & it won't blend w/ anything else w/ it's 90• lenses, tight beam angle. Great veg light though.
The 95cri full spectrum is sweet.
Aren't you in a 3'x3' or something? Might be tough to add the Viper to anything In that space.
3.5 amr
 

Tokintoucan

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Sorry didn't mean to let that reply . If I was gonna go for amare it would have to be the solar storm. I can't seem to find anything conclusive though showing me the extended spec is worth the extra money. The space is 3.5
 

CobKits

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everything is like that. you can spend A LOT more money to try to eek out a few more percent. simple white light has done a lot of people well. As far as augmenting spectrums with monos, people here just love to tinker, its not that their results with pure white light are unsatisfactory
 
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