is it to late?

Just wondering, im still waiting for a referral to go see a doctor in toronto, and my doctor here told me to call back at the end of this month to see if the one in T.O will see me to sign papers, then i see my doc in April and blah blah blah it goes on and on.. plus the time for HC to get my papers and another 3-5 months before i even see any papers come back to me if at all my card, now i read somewhere that HC is changing stuff and whatever there doing...what i want to know is, would it be to late to even go through with this? i might not know anything till september, this process has taken me 7-8 years to get me where im at now, its really fustrating me and i started all this while i was liven in Calgary now im in Ontario.
 

Pharoah

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Nope, it's not to late at all, I would also recommend doing it sooner than later, Don't wait for a referral, go out and actively find Doctors who have done their homework on MMJ, there's a number of list's that can be found that contain within them Doctors, just google search "MMAR Doctors" and you'll find some results.
 
yeah i understand this but at the same time im in a small town and pretty much 1 doctor does the referrals to a doctor in toronto, i just got back from a visit to a doctor at the hospital and all they did was give me sleeping pills and a speach on how Marijuana can cuase mental problems. i know im fine with it but i think im just gunna have to wait it out.
 

Pharoah

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small town doesn't matter, if you have internet, many of them will do a Skype session with you. You don't need to physically go into the doctors office.
 

Sir.Ganga

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Ya like Pharoah said, Online is the way to go in your situation. Medicalmarajuana.ca is one and the one I used and am very happy with was the donoharmclinic.ca I paid a total of $400 and everything was done by them.

Well worth it in my opinion.

Vaper
 
Is it too late to be a DG, because I actually filled out all my forms from health canada needed, just last night and when I went to my local hydro store to get a quote of what it would cost the guy who works there told me that their gonna stop the DGs soon...

I am still waiting to see a dr for my mmar, I plan on driving to ontario as soon as I can find a dr willing to sign my papers. (I live in quebec and no dr wants to sign those papers here)

Also, will growing for yourself be "phased out" as well?

just when i thought we were moving forward..
 

GibbsIt89

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Is it too late to be a DG, because I actually filled out all my forms from health canada needed, just last night and when I went to my local hydro store to get a quote of what it would cost the guy who works there told me that their gonna stop the DGs soon...

I am still waiting to see a dr for my mmar, I plan on driving to ontario as soon as I can find a dr willing to sign my papers. (I live in quebec and no dr wants to sign those papers here)

Also, will growing for yourself be "phased out" as well?

just when i thought we were moving forward..
ya wtf is this, this is why i never bothered doing any of that cuz the government is always screwing around. i just want a medical growers license and a patient card so i can grow for myself and others who need it. But if its going to take me 5 years to get it done and by then itll either be legal or even more messed up, who knows.. whats a fast way to do all this? Ive herd of a doctors who travel around and hand these out legally for like $200 and u hav to renew them every year for like $300 or something, just need to make an appointment with one, my friend told me this (he grows with his family, they all do this), so other then trying that way (which im iffy about if thats even legal, didnt ask much about it of course so idk) im wondering what to do aswell as many other ppl on here aswell, so anyone with further knowledge post away cuz i dont see any canadian threads or sections etc etc on here at all, ppl sure, but no signs of grouping.
 
I spoke to one of my buddies briefly today and he said by the time it takes effect and all that, it should be 2014 so its still a good idea to get it now. You could do a few batches before they take it away..:weed:

Anyone hear this or think its on point?
 

Pharoah

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Gibbs: My accident happened july 18th 2011, I applied for my MMAR in November 2011, connected with a Doctor to sign, and was licensed by February 10th 2012. Once you know these things;

A) A Doctor who is willing to go against the proverbial grain and sign, or a Doctor who is willing to be educated by their patient.

B) Which forms to fill out, many will tell you that Form F is required if you rent your dwelling, and intend to grow in said dwelling, but his is not the case.

If you do not have a category 1 condition, outlined in Form B1, than you'll;

C) Need a letter of diagnosis from a specialist, this specialist does NOT need to fill out any MMAR application documents, you ONLY need the diagnosis from them.

Hope that helps.

Chocolope: Their intending to phase out PPL and DG licenses in 2014, and completely abolishing them all together once their own Licensed MMJ Producers have a sufficient supply for Medical Marijuana Patients.

From my understanding, the MMAR program will be essentially scrapped, and will be replaced with a single document that is filled out by a medical practitioner, sent to a HC authorized producer, who then fills the prescription with authentic "Medical MMJ" Labeling to allow law enforcement officials to differentiate a black market stash from a medical MMJ stash.

My understanding of the proposed changes is that any medical practitioner can prescribe MMJ to anyone with a condition that is believed to be treated effectively with the use of Cannabis. This will eliminate the need for a specialist diagnosis and the also will eliminate the long wait time we currently face with the current program, 3 months to get a license is ridiculous, effective date should be when the Doctor signs the MMAR forms, not when HC approves them.
 
Cool so I could still maybe get like a year and a half of growing before they take it away at least.
Ill take anything I can get at this point!!

Anyone have any idea more or less what drs are charging to sign the papers... I've been hearing things like $500+ (I really hope thats not the case)
 

GibbsIt89

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Cool so I could still maybe get like a year and a half of growing before they take it away at least.
Ill take anything I can get at this point!!

Anyone have any idea more or less what drs are charging to sign the papers... I've been hearing things like $500+ (I really hope thats not the case)
ya me too man me too.. i herd it was ya probly around $500 and mayb another 5 every year to renew it, i have no idea tho. i cant imagine it being anymore then that. Im curious about if your constantly filing your grow and everything all the time aswell? i just mean how much paper work is there? lol pharoah did us a nice one with that post tho thanx again dude!
 

Pharoah

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There's what appears to be alot of paper work, when in reality, it's not all that much, I'll tell you exactly what forms need to be filled out.

Scenario A) You Rent, and the location you rent is your primary residence, and is also your planned production site

1) Form A: Application for Authorization to possess dried marijuana.
2) Form B1: Medical Conditions (or B2: Medical Conditions, if you have Category 2 conditions, accompanied by a diagnosis from a specialist).
3) Form C: Application to produce dried marijuana.

These are extra's, and while it's entirely garbage, I also recommend

4) Form E1: Application to obtain dried marijuana.
5) Form E2: Application to obtain Marijuana Seeds

4 and 5 would be to have access to HC's supply of dried marijuana or marijuana seeds, which I highly doubt you'll actually ever use, but is something that one might consider as a last resort should nothing else be available.

The price that Doctors are charging range from $250-$400, I have yet to hear of anyone charging over $400.

Personally, I paid the $400 to have my situation looked at by a doctor who was not being compensated for their time by HC, like any other doctor would be for any other reasons. Nothing Medical Marijuana is covered by our canadian health plan, this includes, but is not limited to, the Doctor visit that results in the signing of the MMAR form B1 or B2. With the new changes, and to be honest, I'd do it again in a heart beat, the amount of stress I havn't felt since obtaining my license makes it worth 10X the money I paid, however, any more than $400 borders criminal activity. Anyone who charges a simple $400 is covering cost's of staff, equipment, etc, they have a whole brick and mortar foundation to work under, which means they have massive overhead, is simply trying to be compensated for their time, lord knows HC isn't going to compensate them.

Scenario B) Your production site is a rental for the express purpose of production, you do not live there.

1) All forms that fall under Scenario A
2) Form F: Consent from Landlord - This form is only needed to be filled out if you rent, and do not live where you grow.


If you think you have a doctor you could educate, you could print of this document; http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marihuana/how-comment/medpract/infoprof/index-eng.php to help them better understand Marijuana and it's misconceptions due to it's illegal status.

Hope all this helps.
 

GibbsIt89

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thank u very much yes it absolutely does. I sent the donoharmclinic a big long msg, hopefully they can help me out with a doctor? i have a new doctor, only met with him once, before this doctor i would just go to the walk in clinics or speak to my pediatrition lol. PLUS this new doctor i just got is back in southern ontario and ive just moved to northwestern ontario so i will be looking for a new doctor up here now lol. OR hoping the donoharmclinic can help me out?
 

Pharoah

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Also Gibbs, like I stated before, either in this thread, or the other one similar, that a google search for "MMAR Doctors" will yield you lists of doctors known to sign, their method of signing (walk in to clinic, skype, etc), if their accepting new patients.

Not all results will yield all this data, but the results from "MMAR Doctors" should yield at least contacts you could connect with via phone, e-mail or fax.

Just a simple search yielded me this result.

http://johnturmel.com/doctors.htm

With the data I've given you, between the do no harm clinic, and the link from the result of my search, I believe you will have 0 problems getting signed within the next month, and within 3-4 months, completely legal.

Good luck :D
 

GibbsIt89

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that is wicked man i SO appreciate your help, cant give u any more rep yet tho lol. I will keep you updated :)
 

Pharoah

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lol, not doin it for the rep, I managed to luck out when I began my search and found a doctor within 2 weeks of knowing NOTHING about the MMAR program at all, now, not long after, I'm somewhat of a savant when it comes to it, and I'm very resourceful when ti comes to locating information, so why not share my easy time through this process with those who are having a hard time with it.

And definitely keep me posted. We need more of us licensed (assuming they don't abolish the MMAR program all together) so we have numbers to fight with. Something I've found with being licensed, is that many people in the community won't even second guess, or continue to look at you like you have two heads for smoking.

For example, I was outside not long ago, enjoying my medical session, when I was approached by 2 religious figures handing out literature, while I myself don't follow any set religion, I don't penalize, or look down on others who do, therefor, I stood there, smoking my medicine, talking to these over 50 year old preachers so to speak, and they didn't even care, or look down on me for it. In fact, one of them told me that her brother I believe was medicinal, and the relief he obtained from MMJ that in her own opinion, was far superior to that of conventional medications.

It's surprising to realize just how many people feel it's a valid medication, be it from personal experience (themselves, or relatives) or external experiences (Friends or stories from around the community from other medicinal users). And the best part about it is, these are mostly figures of high community status.
 

GibbsIt89

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marijuana is the future, it will save the economy, and will save ppls lives! It obviously should have never been made illegal. Think how much debt countries would be out of just by jumping in on this culture.
 
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