Is it possible to flower with 5000k

Prince4118

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im wanting to put a little cone in a small chamber to determine sex and get a small bud for tasting but the only bulb I have free is a 5000k bulb so I'm just wondering if it will work because i usually use 2700k for flower
 

Abiqua

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There is a line of LED's that use 5600k as their flower spectrum with HPS replacing results.

You should be okay to experiment with, probably even surprise yourself.

"Not optimal" is the lazy way of saying, "haven't tried it before" "only relaying what I heard".
 

bryleetch

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There is a line of LED's that use 5600k as their flower spectrum with HPS replacing results.

You should be okay to experiment with, probably even surprise yourself.

"Not optimal" is the lazy way of saying, "haven't tried it before" "only relaying what I heard".
Says the guy that also hasn't tried it before...
 

Abiqua

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Says the guy that also hasn't tried it before...
Are you my girlfriend or something? How did you come to that conclusion, oh wise one?

Of course I have, I wouldn't post. Are you going to elucidate on how it isn't the ideal spectrum or just talk out of your ass.


I think it is a great spectrum based on source. Good amounts of blue between 470-490nm. Fair amount of green, which is not useless and enough red to let the ladies poke.

NW leaning to CW is a good source for flower and maybe as close to full spectrum as we have gotten in a HID light source.

But you were going to point all that out right? @bryleetch
 

bryleetch

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Are you my girlfriend or something? How did you come to that conclusion, oh wise one?

Of course I have, I wouldn't post. Are you going to elucidate on how it isn't the ideal spectrum or just talk out of your ass.


I think it is a great spectrum based on source. Good amounts of blue between 470-490nm. Fair amount of green, which is not useless and enough red to let the ladies poke.

NW leaning to CW is a good source for flower and maybe as close to full spectrum as we have gotten in a HID light source.

But you were going to point all that out right? @bryleetch
easy there bud... when you use words like "should" and "probably" you don't sound like you're going off of experience, just saying.
 

Abiqua

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Are you my girlfriend or something? How did you come to that conclusion, oh wise one?
easy there bud... when you use words like "should" and "probably" you don't sound like you're going off of experience, just saying.
Yeah because I am not making, definitives. Things change, I am allowing for error by making those statements.

One sativa might consider it ideal, while another Auto indica may hate the spectrum, geez louise. Some people and their misanthropy.

I take you have NEVER flowered before period. So please I am still waiting for your advice on why or why not 5k isn't/ is the ideal flowering spectrum.

Next time, you get my short response: Shut the Fuck Up!
 

whitebb2727

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5000k is fine for what your doing. And with your 2700k for flower try to get some 6400 in there if you can.
Mix the 2700 5000 and 6400 together. You will notice the plants like it.
 

bryleetch

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Yeah because I am not making, definitives. Things change, I am allowing for error by making those statements.

One sativa might consider it ideal, while another Auto indica may hate the spectrum, geez louise. Some people and their misanthropy.

I take you have NEVER flowered before period. So please I am still waiting for your advice on why or why not 5k isn't/ is the ideal flowering spectrum.

Next time, you get my short response: Shut the Fuck Up!
You're being straight up hostile to people instead of just helping the op, relax. Spectrum isn't nearly going to matter in terms of yield as much as the light intensity is going to matter, so I don't even have a horse in this race. Just use what you got.
 

Abiqua

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You're being straight up hostile to people instead of just helping the op, relax. Spectrum isn't nearly going to matter in terms of yield as much as the light intensity is going to matter, so I don't even have a horse in this race. Just use what you got.
Your a straight up troll.
 

Ninjabowler

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What a bunch of bullshit this thread is.

For fucks sakes the guy wants to sex his fucking plant. Not sell to hightimes executives.

OP...YOUR FINE. Flower away with whatever light you have on hand. As long as its the right light cycle it will flower. Its nt the spectrum that makes it flower, its the build up of hormones caused by the "seasons" changing. In indoor grows its the light schedule changing that induces flower.

Are you my girlfriend or something? How did you come to that conclusion, oh wise one?

Of course I have, I wouldn't post. Are you going to elucidate on how it isn't the ideal spectrum or just talk out of your ass.


I think it is a great spectrum based on source. Good amounts of blue between 470-490nm. Fair amount of green, which is not useless and enough red to let the ladies poke.

NW leaning to CW is a good source for flower and maybe as close to full spectrum as we have gotten in a HID light source.

But you were going to point all that out right? @bryleetch
Are you implying that green spectrum LEDs or green spectrum in general is good for photosynthesis? Because if it is then i probably shouldnt have put all those green LEDs in my flower room to see during dark period huh? You are the downfall of this thread. Your pompus attitude and lack of knowledge turned this into a troll fest. Probly oughta stick to the LED growing section where you can talk about wavelengths of light while i run digimax by sunlight supply and pull 2.5 lb per light.....with green LEDs running at night...wait maybe its because of the green LEDs that im yielding so high......nope.
 

Abiqua

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What a bunch of bullshit this thread is.

For fucks sakes the guy wants to sex his fucking plant. Not sell to hightimes executives.

OP...YOUR FINE. Flower away with whatever light you have on hand. As long as its the right light cycle it will flower. Its nt the spectrum that makes it flower, its the build up of hormones caused by the "seasons" changing. In indoor grows its the light schedule changing that induces flower.


Are you implying that green spectrum LEDs or green spectrum in general is good for photosynthesis? Because if it is then i probably shouldnt have put all those green LEDs in my flower room to see during dark period huh? You are the downfall of this thread. Your pompus attitude and lack of knowledge turned this into a troll fest. Probly oughta stick to the LED growing section where you can talk about wavelengths of light while i run digimax by sunlight supply and pull 2.5 lb per light.....with green LEDs running at night...wait maybe its because of the green LEDs that im yielding so high......nope.

Ha......I stick by everything I have said, not one has said some quantitatively to the opposite, all fucking opinion. Yes, 5K makes a great flowering spectrum and some will get better results than others.

You know nothing about how photosynthesis works, I would stop there. Just because a spectrum is slow to be absorbed doesn't make it a terrible spectrum in fact just the opposite. Mind blown on the stupidty of people's post.

"I heard this, so I better prove I am right", lol....if you are going to call me a troll and dissect the post, at least be correct in your assertion, because they aren't.

I urge you to read up on photosynthesis and green light. I double dog dare you.
 

Abiqua

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You're being straight up hostile to people instead of just helping the op, relax. Spectrum isn't nearly going to matter in terms of yield as much as the light intensity is going to matter, so I don't even have a horse in this race. Just use what you got.
What the fuck are you talking about, you started the insulting. You asserted that I hadn't flowered under 5k, and I asserted that you are wrong.

Where is your experience flowering with 5K? Why would you call someone out, and then offer nothing to ascertain why 5k is a terrible spectrum to flower under?

Troll? Your 24 posts say otherwise, jimmy.
 

Ace Yonder

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What a bunch of bullshit this thread is.

For fucks sakes the guy wants to sex his fucking plant. Not sell to hightimes executives.

OP...YOUR FINE. Flower away with whatever light you have on hand. As long as its the right light cycle it will flower. Its nt the spectrum that makes it flower, its the build up of hormones caused by the "seasons" changing. In indoor grows its the light schedule changing that induces flower.


Are you implying that green spectrum LEDs or green spectrum in general is good for photosynthesis? Because if it is then i probably shouldnt have put all those green LEDs in my flower room to see during dark period huh? You are the downfall of this thread. Your pompus attitude and lack of knowledge turned this into a troll fest. Probly oughta stick to the LED growing section where you can talk about wavelengths of light while i run digimax by sunlight supply and pull 2.5 lb per light.....with green LEDs running at night...wait maybe its because of the green LEDs that im yielding so high......nope.
Actually there is a slight chance that the green LED's are indeed helping boost your yields, at least in theory, depending on the wavelength
"In this study, the effects of green light-emitting diodes (LEDs) with different peak wavelengths and light intensities on lettuce growth and photosynthesis were evaluated.... Shoot and root growth in lettuce plants irradiated with green LED light at PPF 100 decreased compared with white fluorescent light, but root growth of plants irradiated with green LED light at PPF 200 increased, and shoot growth of plants grown under G510 at PPF 300 was the highest of all light sources. Leaf photosynthetic rate (Pn) of plants irradiated with green LED light at PPF 200 was dramatically higher than that at PPF 100, and the Pn of plants irradiated with G510 was the highest of all light sources. These results indicated that high-intensity green LED light was effective to promote plant growth and, in particular, short-wavelength green light was available for active plant growth." (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0098847211001924)
 

Ace Yonder

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im wanting to put a little cone in a small chamber to determine sex and get a small bud for tasting but the only bulb I have free is a 5000k bulb so I'm just wondering if it will work because i usually use 2700k for flower
It will definitely work. Fluorescent bulbs all have very broad spectra, and the K measure of color temperature is a very simple one based only on the perceived color of the light. As opposed to HID lights, which have very narrow spectra of light, with flourescents a 5000K bulb and a 2700K bulb both have substantial amounts of the same colors of light, it's just the ratios that differ.
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You use 2700K because it has more red, but as you can see even a 6400K still has about 40% as much red light, and conversely a 2700K still has about 45% as much blue light as a 6400K. Also, by using the 5000K you add in a bit of UV-B that the 2700K lacks almost entirely, and that can have a positive effect on development. So yeah, you should be fine with your 5000K
 

Ninjabowler

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Ha......I stick by everything I have said, not one has said some quantitatively to the opposite, all fucking opinion. Yes, 5K makes a great flowering spectrum and some will get better results than others.

You know nothing about how photosynthesis works, I would stop there. Just because a spectrum is slow to be absorbed doesn't make it a terrible spectrum in fact just the opposite. Mind blown on the stupidty of people's post.

"I heard this, so I better prove I am right", lol....if you are going to call me a troll and dissect the post, at least be correct in your assertion, because they aren't.

I urge you to read up on photosynthesis and green light. I double dog dare you.
Wow this should be hard to make you look dumb ;) one second please.
 

Ninjabowler

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Light quality refers to the color or wavelength reaching the plant surface. Sunlight can be broken up by a prism into respective colors of red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet. On a rainy day, raindrops act as tiny prisms and break the sunlight into these colors producing a rainbow. Red and blue light have the greatest effect on plant growth. Green light is least effective to plants as most plants reflect green light and absorb very little. It is this reflected light that makes them appear green. Blue light is primarily responsible for vegetative growth or leaf growth. Red light when combined with blue light, encourages flowering in plants. Fluorescent or cool-white light is high in the blue range of light quality and is used to encourage leafy growth. These lights are excellent for starting seedlings. Incandescent light is high in the red or orange range but generally produces too much heat to be a valuable light source. Fluorescent "grow" lights have a mixture of red and blue colors that attempts to imitate sunlight as closely as possible. They are costly and generally not of any greater value than regular fluorescent lights.

http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/botany/environmental.html

Ok so what they said is that you have a big mouth that tries to use big words and you dont make any frickin sense. Green light is not what plants want so they reflect it. So why dont you find me some obscure LED paper written by an LED manufacturer trying to convince people that the green spectrum is an intrinsic piece of the spectrum and energy conversion in plants fails without it. Go green!
 
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