Is eating more medicinal than smoking?

medicalgrowman

Active Member
I've been researching about the medicinal benefits of Cannabis.
I myself am a legal patient who prefers to do Dabs and smoke my medicine. However, in doing my research, it seems that people such as Rick Simpson believe that consuming is more medicinal than smoking or vaping. Is that true? My thinking is that if I am feeling the effects when I dab, then that means that THC is in my body, so why wouldn't I be getting the medical benefits of the THC when I smoke? Is there any science that shows that consuming is more medicinal than smoking or vaping? I don't mean for pain relief, but for controlling or curing ailments such as cancer?
Thanks so-much!
 

mrCRC420

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Yes, there have been tons of studies. One huge factor, is that ingesting cannabis allows you to intake a significantly higher amount of cannabinoids than smoking EVER will. You can't cure cancer by smoking it out. Ingesting also allows us to target certain cannabinoids and there is not loss due to heat.... Eating the herb also means absorbing it through stomach (or intestine) linings (I dunno which, I'm a pothead not a doctor haha) which (I believe) is why the high is so long lasting, deep, and more prominent to one's body than their mind - visa versa to inhaling it, where the cannabinoids are absorbed through the lungs and the effects are immediate with a shorter duration. ---- There are lots of studies. I'd google "Cannabis and Cancer Cell Suicide" and "Cannabis and CBD" and "Cannabis Oil and Cancer" and "Smoking vs Ingesting" GL mang
 

qwizoking

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No there's no difference except most degrade the product pretty severely when making edibles or especially rso, that's why its more sedating not because its absorbed through your intestines or mucus membranes vs lungs and mucus membranes. And yes you can ingest quite a bit of cannabinoids in this manner. Most who use it medicinally isn't for cancer and ingesting massive amounts isn't desirable. Though when dabbing yiu can ingest the same and can certainly help. The actual treatment of internal cancers other than the head neck and lungs isn't really that promising. It really depends what yiur after, a topical is best for topical cancers and localized pains and inflammation. You also don't necessarily have to decarb it depending on what your looking for.
But in any case, rick simpson is open about the fact he has no scientific background, that combined with all the false misleading or otherwise dangerous statements.. I would take his words with caution
THC's half life etc isn't altered from the method of ingestion, when taken orally it just takes much longer to absorb, also the liver converts delta 9 to 11 which has different properties. No more medicinal though but has a slightly higher affinity to cb1 receptors where delta 9 likes cb1 and cb2 nearly equally. A proper edible should be more in the mind than body because of this..given you don't destroy it making it as mentioned
A proper cannabis extract; minus the rice cooker and acetone is much better for you and the product, I think rick may have dropped the acetone after community lash out. The medicine is in the trichomes and very sensitive, the extract shouldn't be that gross goop he makes full of chlorophyll and fats which can be quite irritating in the levels required. The compounds we want are in fact a solid at room temperature. Like shatter I'm sure your familiar with. If its filled with terps it should be a bit moist
 

Dat Dank

Active Member
I usually get ridiculously baked when I eat edibles compared to smoking them. I read an article where Tommy Chong cured himself with his home grown cannabis oil, which he supposedly rubbed on his testicles once a day. I'm sure if you do a Google search you would find the story, but the established medical community will still never admit to it.
 
Look into adding hemp seed oil into your diet if you are interested in the health benefits of cannabis. Amazing stuff. It has helped me a lot.
 

luvhandles

Member
higher absorption when eating the edibles plus some patients cant tolerate the smoke as well especially if nauseated or COPD in the picture not always the case but the edibles do well with post surgical patients who cant have increase intra-abdominal pressure from coughing.
 

qwizoking

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Well the absorption bit is false.. thc has a logp of about 7
In practice optimum colonic absorption is 1.32, intestinal is 1.35, oral 1.8, Cns 2, percutaneous at 2.6 and sublingual 5.5.

And most use butter, a poor carrier


Coconut oil is best and better yet are pills not using the butter or oil as th solvent and no baking

"....Now Medium-chain triglycerides (MCTs) are medium-chain (8 to 10 carbons)

In the digestive system MCTs are broken down into individual fatty acids (MCFA). Unlike other fatty acids, MCFA are absorbed directly from the intestines into the portal vein and sent straight to the liver where they are, for the most part, burned as fuel much like a carbohydrate. In this respect they act more like carbohydrates than like fats.

Other fats require pancreatic enzymes to break them into smaller units. They are then absorbed into the intestinal wall and packaged into bundles of fat (lipid) and protein called lipoproteins. These lipoproteins are carried by the lymphatic system, bypassing the liver, and then dumped into the bloodstream, where they are circulated throughout the body. As they circulate in the blood, their fatty components are distributed to all the tissues of the body. The lipoproteins get smaller and smaller, until there is little left of them. At this time they are picked up by the liver, broken apart, and used to produce energy
MCTs do not require bile salts for digestion and therefore, passively absorbed by the intestinal tract into the blood stream where they are used for energy
Rich sources of MCTs include palm kernel oil and coconut oil."
part of my coconut oil quote
But yes if you can't cough capsules or patches s are the way to go
 

luvhandles

Member
Well the absorption bit is false.. thc has a logp of about 7
In practice optimum colonic absorption is 1.32, intestinal is 1.35, oral 1.8, Cns 2, percutaneous at 2.6 and sublingual 5.5.

And most use butter, a poor carrier


Coconut oil is best and better yet are pills not using the butter or oil as th solvent and no baking

"....Now Medium-chain triglycerides (MCTs) are medium-chain (8 to 10 carbons)

In the digestive system MCTs are broken down into individual fatty acids (MCFA). Unlike other fatty acids, MCFA are absorbed directly from the intestines into the portal vein and sent straight to the liver where they are, for the most part, burned as fuel much like a carbohydrate. In this respect they act more like carbohydrates than like fats.

Other fats require pancreatic enzymes to break them into smaller units. They are then absorbed into the intestinal wall and packaged into bundles of fat (lipid) and protein called lipoproteins. These lipoproteins are carried by the lymphatic system, bypassing the liver, and then dumped into the bloodstream, where they are circulated throughout the body. As they circulate in the blood, their fatty components are distributed to all the tissues of the body. The lipoproteins get smaller and smaller, until there is little left of them. At this time they are picked up by the liver, broken apart, and used to produce energy
MCTs do not require bile salts for digestion and therefore, passively absorbed by the intestinal tract into the blood stream where they are used for energy
Rich sources of MCTs include palm kernel oil and coconut oil."
part of my coconut oil quote
But yes if you can't cough capsules or patches s are the way to go
Qwizoking, love the knowledge so is it always better to extract the vegetable matter from the medicine due to the difficulty of the enzymes breaking down the cellulose that way the THC absorbs quicker for pain relief if using edibles? I may not be asking the question properly? please forgive my lame questions..
 
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