interesting factoids from 2012

SmokeyDan

Well-Known Member
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University
School of Law in St. Paul, Minnesota, points out
some interesting facts concerning the last
Presidential election:

Number of States won by:
Obama: 19 Romney: 29

Square miles of land won by:
Obama: 580,000
Romney: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by:
Obama: 127 million Romney: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Obama: 13.2
Romney: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Romney won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low-income tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase. If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegals - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

Professor Tyler's definition is the following:
In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior: "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy; From apathy to
dependence; From dependence back into bondage.
 

MidwesternGro

Well-Known Member
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University
School of Law in St. Paul, Minnesota, points out
some interesting facts concerning the last
Presidential election:

Number of States won by:
Obama: 19 Romney: 29

Square miles of land won by:
Obama: 580,000
Romney: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by:
Obama: 127 million Romney: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Obama: 13.2
Romney: 2.1

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy; From apathy to
dependence; From dependence back into bondage.
Why does the number of states matter? Obama won both the electoral college and popular vote.

Square miles of land won? Since when can land vote? That makes no sense. Do you mean that more rural areas vote Republican?

Populations of counties won? Obama won both the popular vote and electoral college.

Murder rate? Do you think that may be because urban areas tend to vote democrat? You do know that murderers can't vote, correct?

The Roman Empire became more religious before it collapsed. Empire collapse has more to do with an empire stretching too far and being unable to conquer enough resources to sustain itself.

Bad post all around.
 

SmokeyDan

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That empire isn't by far the largest.

They're the size of British or smaller...

And if you don't understand the difference between getting permission to have a military base and a true empire then you are a typical uninformed American.

I didn't say those things mattered. I said they were interesting.

No one is saying Romney should be elected because of that. But it's the same reason sports center goes over rushing, and passing yards after a football game. They dont matter, but allude to Interesting Things.
 

MidwesternGro

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That empire isn't by far the largest.

They're the size of British or smaller...

And if you don't understand the difference between getting permission to have a military base and a true empire then you are a typical uninformed American.

I didn't say those things mattered. I said they were interesting.

No one is saying Romney should be elected because of that. But it's the same reason sports center goes over rushing, and passing yards after a football game. They dont matter, but allude to Interesting Things.
Permission from a government that we put into power or bullied into allowing us to have a base there, just like the British did. YOU are a typical uninformed American.

And those things are not interesting. Romney could win a county by one vote and then this law professor could count the entire population of that county in the Romney column, which makes no sense except to put the desired spin on the "factoids." Law professors are the lightweights of academia, and these factoids show why -- they are all sophists.
 

SmokeyDan

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Permission from a government that we put into power or bullied into allowing us to have a base there, just like the British did. YOU are a typical uninformed American.

And those things are not interesting. Romney could win a county by one vote and then this law professor could count the entire population of that county in the Romney column, which makes no sense except to put the desired spin on the "factoids." Law professors are the lightweights of academia, and these factoids show why -- they are all sophists.
Law professors are among the highest paid of academia. I guess you think the sociology professors are where it's at.

I think the point here is that republicans dominate in the non urban areas, and Democrats in the urban.

Of course this was well known and we didn't need that to tell us this.

The point of this is to illustrate the dichotomy that is established and growing in America.

The migration to cities continues. The related phenomenon of urban welfare rats multiplying and eventually those who are more self reliant will be exposed to theft by democracy.

Would you care to argue with the points this is trying to make or do you just want to continue exhibition of butthurtt?

No one is saying that this is evidence that Romney should have won.

The article is true; people wanting government to give them more of other people's money came out and voted for Obama, and Romney didn't win.
 

Red1966

Well-Known Member
Law professors are among the highest paid of academia. I guess you think the sociology professors are where it's at.

I think the point here is that republicans dominate in the non urban areas, and Democrats in the urban.

Of course this was well known and we didn't need that to tell us this.

The point of this is to illustrate the dichotomy that is established and growing in America.

The migration to cities continues. The related phenomenon of urban welfare rats multiplying and eventually those who are more self reliant will be exposed to theft by democracy.

Would you care to argue with the points this is trying to make or do you just want to continue exhibition of butthurtt?

No one is saying that this is evidence that Romney should have won.

The article is true; people wanting government to give them more of other people's money came out and voted for Obama, and Romney didn't win.
If you are saying we have gone past the tipping point, then I may agree.
 

MidwesternGro

Well-Known Member
Law professors are among the highest paid of academia. I guess you think the sociology professors are where it's at.

I think the point here is that republicans dominate in the non urban areas, and Democrats in the urban.

Of course this was well known and we didn't need that to tell us this.

The point of this is to illustrate the dichotomy that is established and growing in America.

The migration to cities continues. The related phenomenon of urban welfare rats multiplying and eventually those who are more self reliant will be exposed to theft by democracy.

Would you care to argue with the points this is trying to make or do you just want to continue exhibition of butthurtt?

No one is saying that this is evidence that Romney should have won.

The article is true; people wanting government to give them more of other people's money came out and voted for Obama, and Romney didn't win.
Right. Because people in the country do not rely on welfare or government money.

There is plenty of poverty and people on welfare or some form of government assistance in rural areas.
 

MidwesternGro

Well-Known Member
Law professors are among the highest paid of academia. I guess you think the sociology professors are where it's at.
Law professors are overpaid because the ABA requires them to work so few hours, creating a ton of demand. At least look into something before you comment on it.

"Arguably the most vociferous critic of the ABA’s law school mandates is Larry Velvel, dean of the Massachusetts School of Law. In the short but impassioned book he wrote with Kurt Olson, The Gathering Peasants’ Revolt in American Legal Education, he made the case that law schools could train future lawyers at much lower cost if only the ABA would allow that.

Velvel and Olson write that the ABA’s policies are “designed to ensure continued and increasing economic and professional benefits for professors and deans.”

Specifically, they state, the rules “are focused on inputs that aggrandize faculty desires. These include rules limiting the hours of teaching, limiting overall workloads, demanding large, full-time faculties, and a requirement that most students be taught by full-time, tenured professors housed in plush facilities.”

It’s as if the hotel industry could mandate that all hotels must have king-size beds, Jacuzzi tubs, the plushest of carpeting, and state-of-the-art TVs, all justified by the twin considerations of ensuring quality and protecting the consumer.

The ABA’s power comes from laws in most states that either prevent people who have not graduated from an ABA-accredited law school from taking the bar exam, or severely delaying them from doing so.

Those needlessly high costs must be paid by students, who often incur heavy debts while taking lots of courses they will never put to any use. That’s because the ABA mandates that law school programs take three years to complete, which means that students have to take many courses they will never need in order to amass enough credits to graduate. People who can’t afford the high costs and heavy debt load are unlikely even consider law school and a career as an attorney – a fact that has its greatest impact on minority students.

Furthermore, even when students can get through law school, they’re often so burdened with debt that they can’t afford to take low-fee clients."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgeleef/2014/07/10/law-schools-peer-into-the-abyss-but-the-american-bar-association-blocks-serious-change/
 

SmokeyDan

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MidwesternGro, you seem more knowledgeable about law schools than am I. So ill concede that point and it's irrelevant status to the topic.

Buck, snopes is bullshit ran by zealots.

Urban welfare rats. They aren't the problem but a symptom of it.

Unfortunately they have been made useless to society. Most will never get out of the poverty/dependency cycle.

The snopes article didn't do a good job at explaining why and what exactly was false.
 

UncleBuck

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MidwesternGro, you seem more knowledgeable about law schools than am I. So ill concede that point and it's irrelevant status to the topic.

Buck, snopes is bullshit ran by zealots.

Urban welfare rats. They aren't the problem but a symptom of it.

Unfortunately they have been made useless to society. Most will never get out of the poverty/dependency cycle.

The snopes article didn't do a good job at explaining why and what exactly was false.
the snopes article showed the author and origin of your cute little chain email to be false. it also showed the homicide rate to be false and showed that republicans win the states that are the net consumers of federal dollars while democrats win the states that are the net contributors of federal dollars.

you can go ahead and just say "NUH UH! BULLSHIT!" but without any explanation of why that is so, it's just your racist bigoted ass pissing into the wind.

stooge.
 
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