Indoor vs outdoor flower time

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conor c

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Beeswings said:
Easy, move out of Hawaii. Cannabis is not natural in Hawaii. Humans brought it their and planted it to make cord for ships. Doesn't it rain like almost everyday their? That's not going to be good for any plant with large buds outdoors. Probably why they aren't growing they're naturally. Here in Minnesota, you can find hemp just growing in the wild that gets 8 foot tall no problem.
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Its cos the law if it was legal like in the days of old they would at least have more heirlooms out there mostly of south east asian descent tho cos Hawaii can grow some killer stuff but the law and helicopters killed that off pretty much so folk switched to other stuff vs there own lines
 
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conor c

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808Med said:
Here is the “Upright Pheno”.
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This is a perfect example of why landrace has a better chance of reaching 10ft.

This is how those old generations grew huge 8’ plants at a 12/12.

They bred that Pheno outta the commercial among with the other mutations.

So commercialized is less adaptive.
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Modern cannabis is weaker vs landraces in some ways because of legal restrictions we cant run fields of hundreds of thousands of plants or more so we lose genes every round we work it and with landrace that dont happen its why they stay so hardy and vary so much its a numbers game when it comes to proper breeding also landraces vs modern cannabis they are under less selective pressure especially hash strains ones used for ganja/flower will be under a tad more but its nothing vs what we do with modern stuff
 
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conor c

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For op and those curious im linking a thread on icmag that describes the history and strains a bit from there but i dont suggest you join or post there it reeks of bacon and snitches so i wouldnt lol its just worth a read for information sake for sure

Hawaiian Sativas

Some questions were asked from a poster looking for a powerful, trippy psychidelic sativa strain. In my infinite wisdom...that's sarcasam... I mentioned that Hawaiian sativas should not be overlooked. Unfortunatly this exchange took place in a breeders thread. The last thing I want is to...
www.icmag.com
 
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conor c

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Op apparently there once was a rare webbed indica type heirloom from Hawaii but short of that indicas aint ideal for there so maybe seek this line out if you want
 
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Yeah Hawaiian Snow by Greenhouse seeds looks good.

I grew Arijans Ultra Haze that from seed, gave me a 1/4 ounce per plant.

But here’s where I’m at:

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I want to grow Middle Eastern varieties because they make my favorite landrace.

I mean you don’t need to look any farther than Afgan Kush.

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Looking for couch lock, and euphoria.

3.
How much THC does the landrace Afgan Kush actually have?

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I’m not interested in planting landrace in the Hawaiian protection areas.

5.
I’m interested in Middle Eastern Landrace because of the different effects besides the % THC.
 
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conor c said:
Op apparently there once was a rare webbed indica type heirloom from Hawaii but short of that indicas aint ideal for there so maybe seek this line out if you want
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If I were back on the North West (NIre /Scoter/ Nor).

Or a climate that has a season.

Id probably still be mainly growing Chemdog, through finish my journey with Middle East Hash Plant!
 
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conor c

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808Med said:
If I were back on the North West (NIre /Scoter/ Nor).

Or a climate that has a season.

Id probably still be mainly growing Chemdog, through finish my journey with Middle East Hash Plant!
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Things from the middle east tend to show semi auto traits tho so your right you defo need seasons
 
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conor c

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808Med said:
Yeah Hawaiian Snow by Greenhouse seeds looks good.

I grew Arijans Ultra Haze that from seed, gave me a 1/4 ounce per plant.

But here’s where I’m at:

1.
I want to grow Middle Eastern varieties because they make my favorite landrace.

I mean you don’t need to look any farther than Afgan Kush.

2.
Looking for couch lock, and euphoria.

3.
How much THC does the landrace Afgan Kush actually have?

4.
I’m not interested in planting landrace in the Hawaiian protection areas.

5.
I’m interested in Middle Eastern Landrace because of the different effects besides the % THC.
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Hawaiian snow has changed parents its not like when it was first released trust me pass there unless its old stock then by all means run it
 
808Med

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If I were buying PR Clones, legend Cali strains.

But nah not Greenhouse.

DNA Genetics Kushberry is happening as good as ever now.

A seed is an underrated natural technology.
 
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conor c

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808Med said:
Nah Greenhouse always has raw stuff.

Their new strain “King Chem” has that raw composition.
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I disagree i ran all there stuff when it was good imo its went downhill since take there super lemon haze thats a prime example its nothing like it was alot of there stuffs like that ask around cos if you grew the old versions vs todays you would see what i mean idk about there newer gear as i aint and probably never will run it due to there lack of morals and there obsession with ruining every landrace at source that strain hunters chooses to curse with there visits
 
808Med

808Med

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I’d argue Cali has been pretty upsessed with refining OG lol.

OG is incredible euphoric glow source but how refined can you get?

The Truth OG is apparently the resurrection of 90s OG.

Look at Cali Connections that shit is refined but thankfully they still have it.

I grew OG a year ago and it was still OG!
 
808Med

808Med

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I don’t buy into people talking about old strains like they were better, look at Safire OG. Look at Triangle and Bubba still looks identical and hits the same the seed is a hell of technology!
 

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