Impossible! The deficit is falling as well as unemployment Obama wrecking economy

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
[h=2]The annual deficit has fallen 32% over the first seven months of this fiscal year compared with same period last year, according to Congressional Budget Office figures released Tuesday.[/h]
 

kelly4

Well-Known Member
I might be psychic...I can tell the threads that Cheesy starts just by reading the title.
 

beardo

Well-Known Member
I'm not surprised to hear unemployment is falling, someone will have to operate all those drones they are launching over the country and staff that huge data center they are building to listen to and watch everything, plus they don't count people who don't have jobs like the homeless in their unemployment numbers only those on unemployment.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Obama is destroying our economy with job killing policys
yes, yes he is.

the "deficit" fell as aa result of the BUSH budget entering it's final phase, the part where all the shit gets paid for through reduced expenditures. now that obama has a budget of his own for the first time in 5 years he can get back to spending the way he intends, so he can bankrupt the country like a champ.

also, "unemployment" only includes those who have NO job, are ACTIVELY looking for work AND are receiving unemployment payments.

it does not include those who:

have exhausted their unemployment benefits
have given up finding a job
have gone back to school
have gone on disability because there are no jobs for them
are working a shit job and augementing their income by selling produce from their garden and doing odd jobs around town
have not yet had a job
sell weed
are on welfare or public assistance


the "unemployment" statistic has nothing to do with employment, it only examines how many people are on the benefit roles for the unemployment insurance payout.
youre not stupid,, you know this,, but you NEED some good news,, and obama has provided precious little for the left to cheer about.

guantanamo bay prison still open
still no national medical care program
democrats cant get together for any single cause, since obama has zero leadership skills
real jobs still vanishing
shit jobs becoming more common than good jobs
unions still on endangered species list
corporations still suckling at the federal govt teat
republicans still not extinct
racism still exists
black people not suddenly all members of "middle class" despite having black president.
obamaphone plan not as successful as hoped, too many still know it was begun by BOOOOSH
BOOOOOOSH still better president than obama
TV ads hyping the awesomeness of the foodstamp program may not have been the best idea for creating illusion of prosperity
federal reserve still printing money zimbabwe style
comparisons to jimmy carter still hitting too close to home.
embarassing "Brick Obama" video still circulating on internet.
america still not loving ugly meanfaced "first lady"
still blaming BOOOOOSH for own failures of leadership and policy
 

gagekko

Well-Known Member
yes, yes he is.

the "deficit" fell as aa result of the BUSH budget entering it's final phase, the part where all the shit gets paid for through reduced expenditures. now that obama has a budget of his own for the first time in 5 years he can get back to spending the way he intends, so he can bankrupt the country like a champ.

also, "unemployment" only includes those who have NO job, are ACTIVELY looking for work AND are receiving unemployment payments.

it does not include those who:

have exhausted their unemployment benefits
have given up finding a job
have gone back to school
have gone on disability because there are no jobs for them
are working a shit job and augementing their income by selling produce from their garden and doing odd jobs around town
have not yet had a job
sell weed
are on welfare or public assistance


the "unemployment" statistic has nothing to do with employment, it only examines how many people are on the benefit roles for the unemployment insurance payout.
youre not stupid,, you know this,, but you NEED some good news,, and obama has provided precious little for the left to cheer about.

guantanamo bay prison still open
still no national medical care program
democrats cant get together for any single cause, since obama has zero leadership skills
real jobs still vanishing
shit jobs becoming more common than good jobs
unions still on endangered species list
corporations still suckling at the federal govt teat
republicans still not extinct
racism still exists
black people not suddenly all members of "middle class" despite having black president.
obamaphone plan not as successful as hoped, too many still know it was begun by BOOOOSH
BOOOOOOSH still better president than obama
TV ads hyping the awesomeness of the foodstamp program may not have been the best idea for creating illusion of prosperity
federal reserve still printing money zimbabwe style
comparisons to jimmy carter still hitting too close to home.
america still not loving ugly meanfaced "first lady"
still blaming BOOOOOSH for own failures of leadership and policy
 

GreenSummit

Active Member
yes, yes he is.

the "deficit" fell as aa result of the BUSH budget entering it's final phase, the part where all the shit gets paid for through reduced expenditures. now that obama has a budget of his own for the first time in 5 years he can get back to spending the way he intends, so he can bankrupt the country like a champ.

also, "unemployment" only includes those who have NO job, are ACTIVELY looking for work AND are receiving unemployment payments.

it does not include those who:

have exhausted their unemployment benefits
have given up finding a job
have gone back to school
have gone on disability because there are no jobs for them
are working a shit job and augementing their income by selling produce from their garden and doing odd jobs around town
have not yet had a job
sell weed
are on welfare or public assistance


the "unemployment" statistic has nothing to do with employment, it only examines how many people are on the benefit roles for the unemployment insurance payout.
youre not stupid,, you know this,, but you NEED some good news,, and obama has provided precious little for the left to cheer about.

guantanamo bay prison still open
still no national medical care program
democrats cant get together for any single cause, since obama has zero leadership skills
real jobs still vanishing
shit jobs becoming more common than good jobs
unions still on endangered species list
corporations still suckling at the federal govt teat
republicans still not extinct
racism still exists
black people not suddenly all members of "middle class" despite having black president.
obamaphone plan not as successful as hoped, too many still know it was begun by BOOOOSH
BOOOOOOSH still better president than obama
TV ads hyping the awesomeness of the foodstamp program may not have been the best idea for creating illusion of prosperity
federal reserve still printing money zimbabwe style
comparisons to jimmy carter still hitting too close to home.
embarassing "Brick Obama" video still circulating on internet.
america still not loving ugly meanfaced "first lady"
still blaming BOOOOOSH for own failures of leadership and policy
at least someone has some sense. thank you.
 

tokeprep

Well-Known Member
NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
The annual deficit has fallen 32% over the first seven months of this fiscal year compared with same period last year, according to Congressional Budget Office figures released Tuesday.
How much of that is the expiration of the payroll tax cut in January?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
This is what it's like to discuss the economy with a modern Republican:

"The deficit is coming down."
Republican: "That sounds good, but here's why its actually bad. ...

"
"Home sales are up."
Republican: "That sounds good, but here's why its actually bad. ...

"
"The stock market is up."
Republican: "That sounds good, but here's why its actually bad. ..."

"New home construction is up."
Republican: "That sounds good, but here's why its actually bad. ...

"
"Unemployment is down."
Republican: "That sounds good, but here's why its actually bad. ..

"
"What would actually be good news?"
Republican: "No recovery until Republicans are in a position to take credit for it.

"
"Thanks. That explains a lot."
 

tokeprep

Well-Known Member
This is what it's like to discuss the economy with a modern Republican:

"The deficit is coming down."
Republican: "That sounds good, but here's why its actually bad. ...

"
"Home sales are up."
Republican: "That sounds good, but here's why its actually bad. ...

"
"The stock market is up."
Republican: "That sounds good, but here's why its actually bad. ..."

"New home construction is up."
Republican: "That sounds good, but here's why its actually bad. ...

"
"Unemployment is down."
Republican: "That sounds good, but here's why its actually bad. ..

"
"What would actually be good news?"
Republican: "No recovery until Republicans are in a position to take credit for it.

"
"Thanks. That explains a lot."
Given the title you chose for this thread, your assertion seems to be that this deficit information indicates the economy is getting better. If the deficit improvement is mostly a function of higher tax rates and the expiration of the payroll tax cut, it doesn't suggest the economy is getting better.

Believe me, since I'm currently looking for a job, I really do wish the economy would get better. It has nothing to do with partisanship.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Given the title you chose for this thread, your assertion seems to be that this deficit information indicates the economy is getting better. If the deficit improvement is mostly a function of higher tax rates and the expiration of the payroll tax cut, it doesn't suggest the economy is getting better.

Believe me, since I'm currently looking for a job, I really do wish the economy would get better. It has nothing to do with partisanship.
Give me your zipcode and ill copy the craigslist want ads for you to browse
 

tokeprep

Well-Known Member
Give me your zipcode and ill copy the craigslist want ads for you to browse
I want a good job, not a sucky low wage one. I can make more money on my own otherwise.

Unfortunately, most of the jobs created in this recovery are in the sucky low wage category.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
the "deficit" fell as aa result of the BUSH budget entering it's final phase, the part where all the shit gets paid for through reduced expenditures.
you know that's not true, but you just can't help yourself.

ya see, with bush, the annual deficits got higher and higher. unless he was hiding the iraq war spending and other spending as "emergency spending", he never ran a smaller deficit than the year previous.

contrast that with the current president, who is overseeing annual deficits that become smaller and smaller at a faster and faster rate.

add to this the fact that this is occurring during rough economic times, rather than good economic times, and the feat is even more impressive.

fact is that in recent history, the republicans blow up deficits and democrats get them back in line. happens over and over again, without fail.

so much for your "fiscally conservative" party. the democrats now have that title.
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
you know that's not true, but you just can't help yourself.

ya see, with bush, the annual deficits got higher and higher. unless he was hiding the iraq war spending and other spending as "emergency spending", he never ran a smaller deficit than the year previous.

contrast that with the current president, who is overseeing annual deficits that become smaller and smaller at a faster and faster rate.

add to this the fact that this is occurring during rough economic times, rather than good economic times, and the feat is even more impressive.

fact is that in recent history, the republicans blow up deficits and democrats get them back in line. happens over and over again, without fail.

so much for your "fiscally conservative" party. the democrats now have that title.
You don't say that! The next Republican will show you what debt looks like. Unless John Kerry wins the nomination.

John_F._Kerry.jpg
 

budsmoker87

New Member
notice how all of Cheezus' bullshit posts ASS-U-ME that people who call his bullshit are "republicans"...how fucking old are you cheezus? you sound like a spokesperson for the white house
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
notice how all of Cheezus' bullshit posts ASS-U-ME that people who call his bullshit are "republicans"...how fucking old are you cheezus? you sound like a spokesperson for the white house
how's life going living in your car in the McDonald's parking lot?
 

budsmoker87

New Member
not bad, working for a casing company...i'm still living in my car, by choice, cuz the company doesn't provide free housing and I hate this place and don't want to spend anything on rent
 

doublejj

Well-Known Member
Republicans will tell you, this is just the final faze of Reagan's "Trickle Down" policy!lol!
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
I want a good job, not a sucky low wage one. I can make more money on my own otherwise.

Unfortunately, most of the jobs created in this recovery are in the sucky low wage category.
Have to start somewhere
Opportunity doesnt just jump in your lap
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
The Dow closed at record highs just the other day, so the business community apparently likes what is going on under Obama, although I'm not sure that is a good thing. As far as unemployment is concerned, we still are way better off than the EU, or mostly anywhere else in this world for that matter. One of the reasons for unemployment worldwide is automation, as it is now in every facet of society and has reduced the need for humans in areas that used to employ a lot of people. That is never going to change now, nor will the overseas production of the cheap shit that we buy a ton of every day. In other words, we are screwed. As far as unemployment is concerned, I think that this is the new norm, and I'll bet you that even a Republican couldn't even fix it.
 
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