swedsteven
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Wow so making seed just by playing with the light?
Do this method work with all strain .
If it work . Why not
Fuck colodiale sylver
Do this method work with all strain .
If it work . Why not
Fuck colodiale sylver
Immaculate seeds, stable every time, zero pollen.
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karmaxul
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Okay so you want to carry a strains genetic forward with out making another part weaker, seen with back crossing (85% of current genetics should not be sold in my opinion due to issues that manifest in anything but perfect conditions)?
Simply, you need more kids. Genes can be recessive or dominant. How do you make a recessive trait dominant? Breed it. Lets say 1 in 20 show a trait. Isolate that one and breed it again with a relative atleast a few relations away or with another "carrier" strain. The carrier is a stable stock that carries traits or certain traits better then others. Keep finding the kids with the traits after each generation. Each generation may be harder to find that trait though keep exercising the genetics to produce it. DNA is like a muscle. YOu work out your arms alot they will grow and be your dominant muscle group, same with traits really.
Back crossing isolates traits by self destructing others in hopes to mutate as a last survival method. Stress does things in growing though never does stress improve performance, always is used to cater to a law or environment. Then the 85% grow with phosphorus and crap, ignoring the exudates of the plants natural cycles. They get sicker and sicker and sicker. Try growing in Maine or Canada. PM, rot, or just weak plants because people like the picture, not the total content. Ive lost so much buying seeds to breeder who really should not even be growing. I say instill the flavors via exudates, crossing this person genetic with that persons and losing sight of the process is a quick jump to fame though at what cost. I hope people are in the business for the business they love, not to harvest some tress and what ever else they can, from what others built. The effort is there, the processes need refining, in my opinion. Could this method have consequences in the future, sure, it may well though I dont have anything better and what is happening is costing many people a lot of potential income. I love the flavors and love indoor though try some of those outside where it is cool and moist and perhaps youll agree, the cannabis plant deserves better treatment.
karmaxul
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Mature seeds grow far better. They may not all be ready. Seeds can last a long time off of the plant, I imagine they may be fine for a couple more weeks while some later ones mature though maybe you want the ones that mature faster. Maybe the ones that mature slower are better for certain things? Much of the science seems to be unwritten.
karmaxul
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Ive made over a thousand seeds this way and never had a complant. Done atleast 20 strains if not 30. Have yet to see it not work. I hopefully will be getting a light dep greenhouse this year though Ive used the garage and squats to keep them on a cycle. Just wondering if anyone knows any variables.
whitebb2727
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To carry a line forward you have to cross siblings. No other way around it. Not much different than back crossing it to one of the parents.
Most heirloom seeds are stable due to back crossing at some point. They also are bred over the years by selecting traits that are wanted.
Most seeds now are simple f1 crosses. Its done with food crops. F1 hybrids perform stable and keep people from using the seeds as the next generation will be all over the place.
karmaxul
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You can only push traits so fast with out losing other balances unfortunately. There are many ways that the genetics weaken. Im not sure this is the worst or the manifests in the generations of this vs others.
Organics, depending on who you ask, I think, is safe to say that the definitions vary. I think heirloom may be following a similar trend. I am not sure how they are made. I heard seeds of italy were the oldest seed bank, 1793 or some thing. A lot would depend on the conditions which they grow and the health of the environment. Its like starving a plant from its natural balances and in some ways its mind that is used to balancing exudatives between species based on what it needs and the life, based on the environment and plant. A manifestation of a connective community between the plant and animal kingdoms forming a balance that protects and evolves them both. Of the 60,000 species in a healthy sample of soil only a few hundred are found in most all soils. The rest is a blueprint off of the plant life and environmental conditions, evolved, with balance over time. Finding a balance with out balance at its core may be slightly unstable. If I want a chocolate flavor why not grow microbially allowing the plant to regulate everything and grow them with the flowers that smell like chocolate. Let nature stabilize the traits as they were first introduced. Getting a mutant and being like, oh wow this is amazing to grow under lights at perfect specs, so lets breed with it, may not always be all good and when it goes bad from inbreeding its not a quick fix. It could really set the plant back evolutionarily, I feel. You go to the chain stores in the US and buy plants and they do not grow naturally. They are like zombies or brain dead people. THey do not know exudates and like this PM and other issues will run rampant. Im so sick of growing shit genetics. I mostly stick with G13 and have interest in Humboldt Nutrients options.
Organics, depending on who you ask, I think, is safe to say that the definitions vary. I think heirloom may be following a similar trend. I am not sure how they are made. I heard seeds of italy were the oldest seed bank, 1793 or some thing. A lot would depend on the conditions which they grow and the health of the environment. Its like starving a plant from its natural balances and in some ways its mind that is used to balancing exudatives between species based on what it needs and the life, based on the environment and plant. A manifestation of a connective community between the plant and animal kingdoms forming a balance that protects and evolves them both. Of the 60,000 species in a healthy sample of soil only a few hundred are found in most all soils. The rest is a blueprint off of the plant life and environmental conditions, evolved, with balance over time. Finding a balance with out balance at its core may be slightly unstable. If I want a chocolate flavor why not grow microbially allowing the plant to regulate everything and grow them with the flowers that smell like chocolate. Let nature stabilize the traits as they were first introduced. Getting a mutant and being like, oh wow this is amazing to grow under lights at perfect specs, so lets breed with it, may not always be all good and when it goes bad from inbreeding its not a quick fix. It could really set the plant back evolutionarily, I feel. You go to the chain stores in the US and buy plants and they do not grow naturally. They are like zombies or brain dead people. THey do not know exudates and like this PM and other issues will run rampant. Im so sick of growing shit genetics. I mostly stick with G13 and have interest in Humboldt Nutrients options.
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ShLUbY
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tissue culture is badass. It's like freezing time. you can keep a particular lineage alive in a petri dish and bring it back at a later date... pretty amazing stuff. I think we're gonna be seeing more of that in the future of the cannabis industry.
karmaxul
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It would be nice to be able to culture a plant after it flowers with out stress in a harsh climate