Ignorance is NOT bliss. It's stupidity.

Josh3235

Josh3235

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I'm 19, and I don't understand why so many kids my age are stupid as fuck. I almost think they think it's "cool" to be stupid. It sure seems like that.
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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It's because our public school systems are dying. Funding gets cut more and more every year. My niece told us on Easter Sunday that she is leaving teaching because she can't afford to live on the salary. Her dream since childhood was to be a teacher. That was her main focus and drive all of her life. Now she has to leave what she loves just to survive.
 
Josh3235

Josh3235

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Carne Seca said:
It's because our public school systems are dying. Funding gets cut more and more every year. My niece told us on Easter Sunday that she is leaving teaching because she can't afford to live on the salary. Her dream since childhood was to be a teacher. That was her main focus and drive all of her life. Now she has to leave what she loves just to survive.
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Yeah, thats definitely happening. My older brother is a special ed teacher for the high school in the area and he has to live at my dads and is saving what he can.
 
shrxhky420

shrxhky420

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Carne Seca said:
It's because our public school systems are dying. Funding gets cut more and more every year. My niece told us on Easter Sunday that she is leaving teaching because she can't afford to live on the salary. Her dream since childhood was to be a teacher. That was her main focus and drive all of her life. Now she has to leave what she loves just to survive.
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that sux... I'm so sorry to hear about your niece. IMO teachers should be making 6 figures. I hope that changes some day. stay high
 
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silasraven

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Josh3235 said:
I'm 19, and I don't understand why so many kids my age are stupid as fuck. I almost think they think it's "cool" to be stupid. It sure seems like that.
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even the ones who go to college come out dumb as fuck. they think just by going they are going to get smarter and come out on top
 
mudminer

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Carne Seca said:
It's because our public school systems are dying. Funding gets cut more and more every year. My niece told us on Easter Sunday that she is leaving teaching because she can't afford to live on the salary. Her dream since childhood was to be a teacher. That was her main focus and drive all of her life. Now she has to leave what she loves just to survive.
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people wanna bitch about low quality public education in america. suggest raising taxes to pay quality educators and see how quickly "tunes" get changed though.
 
Amaximus

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Not sure what the public school system has to do with anything. When I was a kid I hated school but I went.
And when I came home if I didnt know a word, I looked it up in the dictionary. If I needed to know about a subject I read the appropriate encyclopedia Britannica.
I watched NOVA for FUN. Nature shows, Science shows.

You have to want to learn to learn. it cannot be forced on you.

Dumb/Lazy kids will always be dumb/lazy kids.

And the iNteRweBZ isn't making anything better.
 
ThatGuy113

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Amaximus said:
Not sure what the public school system has to do with anything. When I was a kid I hated school but I went.
And when I came home if I didnt know a word, I looked it up in the dictionary. If I needed to know about a subject I read the appropriate encyclopedia Britannica.
I watched NOVA for FUN. Nature shows, Science shows.

You have to want to learn to learn. it cannot be forced on you.

Dumb/Lazy kids will always be dumb/lazy kids.

And the iNteRweBZ isn't making anything better.
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More kids become disenfranchised due to lower budgets and shitier schools. On top of the fact the most textbooks out there are approved by very conservative organizations often leaving out many facts and events from history and science textbooks that their world view point disagreed with.

Schools have been turned into test taking and not understanding. You learn something for a semester and then delete it from memory shortly after a class is done. Something needs to get figured out, cause it just leads to more issues within local communities that then get reflected in our politics and leads to uneducated foreign policy disasters among other pains on both domestic and international stages.
 
Amaximus

Amaximus

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ThatGuy113 said:
More kids become disenfranchised due to lower budgets and shitier schools. On top of the fact the most textbooks out there are approved by very conservative organizations often leaving out many facts and events from history and science textbooks that their world view point disagreed with.

Schools have been turned into test taking and not understanding. You learn something for a semester and then delete it from memory shortly after a class is done. Something needs to get figured out, cause it just leads to more issues within local communities that then get reflected in our politics and leads to uneducated foreign policy disasters among other pains on both domestic and international stages.
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You bring up some good points, some of which I had not considered but the fact of the matter is that it is all excuses.

Don't understand something? Look it up.
Having trouble understanding something you looked up? Online tutors. Friends. Peers.
Don't like what the textbook is telling you? Who cares, Its what they want you to learn, So learn it. You don't have to agree with it.
Want to learn something your school doesn't find important, doesn't teach or your teacher is too incompetent to teach you? Look it up.

We know, In a perfect world the schools should do all this for us but it wasn't this way 30 years ago and it isn't this way now. Lets not act like this is something new.

Sorry, But everyone just looks for excuses IMO.

The specifics may change to a degree but the fact of the matter is it was the same when I/we? were kids in school. And I can't speak for anyone outside my circle of friends/family/peers but not only did we overcome it, But we did it with much less available to us.

I fear this conversation is going to get pretty deep but I'm about to medicate and become sufficiently less smart so I'll reply to any rebuttals tonight or tomorrow. =D
 
ThatGuy113

ThatGuy113

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Amaximus said:
You bring up some good points, some of which I had not considered but the fact of the matter is that it is all excuses.

Don't understand something? Look it up.
Having trouble understanding something you looked up? Online tutors. Friends. Peers.
Don't like what the textbook is telling you? Who cares, Its what they want you to learn, So learn it. You don't have to agree with it.
Want to learn something your school doesn't find important, doesn't teach or your teacher is too incompetent to teach you? Look it up.

We know, In a perfect world the schools should do all this for us but it wasn't this way 30 years ago and it isn't this way now. Lets not act like this is something new.

Sorry, But everyone just looks for excuses IMO.

The specifics may change to a degree but the fact of the matter is it was the same when I/we? were kids in school. And I can't speak for anyone outside my circle of friends/family/peers but not only did we overcome it, But we did it with much less available to us.

I fear this conversation is going to get pretty deep but I'm about to medicate and become sufficiently less smart so I'll reply to any rebuttals tonight or tomorrow. =D
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The thing is people dont know what to even look up in the first place without someone bringing it up. They aren't excuses but rather examples of the many contributions to the problem we have on hand. The reason why we as The United States have screwed up across the world in recent memory is due to a severe lack of knowledge about the history and culture of the population were trying to "make safe for democracy". Im not one for repeating mistakes so if we are going to make it in the future we need to better educate our population. So that people can have a understanding about the world around them and the implications of actions, therefor can take power in the government, local and federal.
 
Total Head

Total Head

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ThatGuy113 said:
More kids become disenfranchised due to lower budgets and shitier schools. On top of the fact the most textbooks out there are approved by very conservative organizations often leaving out many facts and events from history and science textbooks that their world view point disagreed with.

Schools have been turned into test taking and not understanding. You learn something for a semester and then delete it from memory shortly after a class is done. Something needs to get figured out, cause it just leads to more issues within local communities that then get reflected in our politics and leads to uneducated foreign policy disasters among other pains on both domestic and international stages.
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yes, this. as time goes on and more events happen, people start to pick and choose what events are important enough to mention in schoolbooks. the content of the curriculum can vary a great deal from one district to the next. some kids get taught this stuff, some kids get taught that stuff. some kids are taught to seek out alternate information, others are taught to stfu and listen to the teacher. that teacher may or may not have their own agenda. that district may or may not have its own agenda.

then the kid gets to college, and one of two things happens. he either gets a major shock, or more shitty education. there are college professors who allow students to cite wikipedia as a source for fuck's sake. why in the name of christ are we turning out graduates who wrote papers off wikipedia?

wikipedia is NOT a scholarly source, and the daily show is not a legitimate news source. not knowing the difference is what's wrong with america.
 
ThatGuy113

ThatGuy113

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Total Head said:
yes, this. as time goes on and more events happen, people start to pick and choose what events are important enough to mention in schoolbooks. the content of the curriculum can vary a great deal from one district to the next. some kids get taught this stuff, some kids get taught that stuff. some kids are taught to seek out alternate information, others are taught to stfu and listen to the teacher. that teacher may or may not have their own agenda. that district may or may not have its own agenda.

then the kid gets to college, and one of two things happens. he either gets a major shock, or more shitty education. there are college professors who allow students to cite wikipedia as a source for fuck's sake. why in the name of christ are we turning out graduates who wrote papers off wikipedia?

wikipedia is NOT a scholarly source, and the daily show is not a legitimate news source. not knowing the difference is what's wrong with america.
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I concur.
Its a plague.
 
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