if welfare is a trap and makes you a slave on the liberal plantation...

Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
no, it forces you to sell your labor for a wage
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A free market ALLOWS you to sell your labor or to hire the labor of others. The choice of what you will do isn't necessarily externally made in a free market, so the "force" you refer to might be a misnomer.

Also you never told me what you think property is. Who can own it etc. How about giving it a try now?
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
A free market ALLOWS you to sell your labor or to hire the labor of others. The choice of what you will do isn't necessarily externally made in a free market, so the "force" you refer to might be a misnomer.

Also you never told me what you think property is. Who can own it etc. How about giving it a try now?
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Work or starve...

yeah sounds like a choice to me
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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abandonconflict said:
Work or starve...

yeah sounds like a choice to me
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It's a choice I've never minded. It always seemed like the right thing to do, take care of myself.

Maybe I'm doing it wrong, maybe I should let others take care of me, not contribute to society, yet still tell others how they should live. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Can't beat em, join. Let's all stop working!
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
No.

That is what you like.



Please go on about how someone purchasing your commodities is tantamount to rape.
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Nice attempt at a sidestep. Rape is an act where one person isn't consenting. A consenting exchange of my labor for your cart of apples involves a trade where we both agreed absent any duress.

Now go hump a straw mans leg and burn off some energy.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Ginwilly and robroy have major problems with civil rights for black people, but they are totally not racist pieces of shit.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Maybe shut the fuck up.

ginwilly said:
It's a choice I've never minded. It always seemed like the right thing to do, take care of myself.

Maybe I'm doing it wrong, maybe I should let others take care of me, not contribute to society, yet still tell others how they should live. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Can't beat em, join. Let's all stop working!
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abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
Nice attempt at a sidestep. Rape is an act where one person isn't consenting. A consenting exchange of my labor for your cart of apples involves a trade where we both agreed absent any duress.

Now go hump a straw mans leg and burn off some energy.
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Please go on about how black people wanting to buy apples is duress.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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"Hey I never said that, but I will certainly defend what I swear I never said" Your mantra.

Now you are trying to make me out to be crazy because it is so obvious. You have no integrity.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
Please go on about how black people wanting to buy apples is duress.
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Another side step. It's not whether black people or white people do it silly. ANYTIME a person thinks they have the right to force an interaction they are wrong. You like to sidestep, but don't like to answer questions yourself.

What is property ? Who can own it? Who has a right to force an interaction?
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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abandonconflict said:
"Hey I never said that, but I will certainly defend what I swear I never said" Your mantra.

Now you are trying to make me out to be crazy because it is so obvious. You have no integrity.
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If you are accusing me of something I didn't do, you must either be in the middle of doing it, or about to.

I never said you were crazy, just that I didn't realize what condition I was debating and that had I known, I would have left you alone, like I will try to do from now on.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
Another side step. It's not whether black people or white people do it silly. ANYTIME a person thinks they have the right to force an interaction they are wrong. You like to sidestep, but don't like to answer questions yourself.

What is property ? Who can own it? Who has a right to force an interaction?
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Deciphering...

"I have the right to kick niggers and spics and chinks out of my business. Segregation is my right because property."
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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ginwilly said:
If you are accusing me of something I didn't do, you must either be in the middle of doing it, or about to.

I never said you were crazy, just that I didn't realize what condition I was debating and that had I known, I would have left you alone, like I will try to do from now on.
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You keep insisting that I lied about something. Anyone who reads the thread will see that you made a claim, I understood it, you denied that it was the claim you made, then proceeded to vigorously defend the claim. Then you go on for days about how I lied because "you never said it".

The funny thing is, this is your most commonly used tactic, now you are trying to call me crazy, just like before when you suggested I was hearing voices. You also admitted to simply trolling and never actually put forth an argument about the thread topic. When I made a long post detailing my argument, you never replied, you simply derailed the thread. Now I predict you will call me a liar for insisting that you are suggesting I am crazy.

It is none of your business what my disability is, but the VA has rated me as 100% disabled, service connected and unemployable.

Stick to phrenology you racist liar.
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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abandonconflict said:
You keep insisting that I lied about something. Anyone who reads the thread will see that you made a claim, I understood it, you denied that it was the claim you made, then proceeded to vigorously defend the claim. Then you go on for days about how I lied because "you never said it".

The funny thing is, this is your most commonly used tactic, now you are trying to call me crazy, just like before when you suggested I was hearing voices. You also admitted to simply trolling and never actually put forth an argument about the thread topic. When I made a long post detailing my argument, you never replied, you simply derailed the thread.

It is none of your business what my disability is, but the VA has rated me as 100% disabled, service connected and unemployable.

Stick to phrenology you racist liar.
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Hey man, it sucks when the weak minded are put in situations they can't handle. I'm not making fun, in fact, I'm pitying you for the unfortunate choice you made and couldn't handle.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
Deciphering...

"I have the right to kick niggers and spics and chinks out of my business. Segregation is my right because property."
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You have the right to refuse an association. All people do, black, white, gay, etc. People that force human associations are enslavers and rapists.

You should now go hump the straw mans other leg. Equality and fairness and all that shit. Happy humping Mr. Can't answer Questions.
 
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