if welfare is a trap and makes you a slave on the liberal plantation...
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abandonconflict
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You would think that people who claim to like their work wouldn't be so jelly of those who are free not to.
abandonconflict
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Kind of antisemitic.
heckler73
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Please explain.
abandonconflict
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The Freudian, as if pork shall deliver one into liberty, to me it implies that the absence of pork is the absence of liberty.
Pork ain't exactly kosher.
heckler73
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abandonconflict
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Well, on the other hand, if I was free to do absolutely anything, bacon might possibly be involved. In fact, bacon is likely even in the absence of liberty.
Now that's some lateral thinking...
heckler73
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Padawanbater2
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I don't think welfare makes people slaves, but, if work actually worked the way it should, it would make a person free. Real capitalism is, imo, the best way to structure a free population, as it incentivises the best technologies, products and services. I don't believe the US has that, we're under a system of crony capitalism, where those with the most money make the rules....then does work make you free?
Innovation, progress, advancement is completely stifled with this economic policy, not to mention fucking wages. Those on the right would have you believe poor people are asking for/demanding money, when all they really want is a fair chance at earning it. That chance has been taken away from the American people in favor of an oligarchy.
Work built this country, work is destroying this country
abandonconflict
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Crony capitalism is still capitalism. I wouldn't have pegged you for an ancap who wanted unregulated capitalism.
Padawanbater2
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I don't want unregulated capitalism
Capitalism unregulated results in what we have today, crony capitalism
abandonconflict
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They are both real forms of capitalism. So I'm not sure what you mean by "real capitalism".
heckler73
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Then what is this "real capitalism" you prefaced your prior point with?
Padawanbater2
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Capitalism without the crony part
Remove corporations and unions from the entire equation. That is real capitalism
abandonconflict
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So just fascism then?
heckler73
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Uhhh, but how are ships made? In your garage?
Are we going to exchange our old computer parts for new ones with China using Cedar-log canoes and trained otters?
Without Corps or Unions, there can be no large organization other than government, by your standing definition.
Heil Pada, illustrious leader for the People's Republic of "real" Autocracy!
Padawanbater2
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No, regulated capitalism
I didn't say remove corporations and unions from the face of the Earth, I said remove each of them from influencing politics.
abandonconflict
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It's like Capitalism with out the Capital.