If I cant grow, permanantly, MMJ license is almost pointless, whats your thoughts?

WeedFreak78

WeedFreak78

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I'm out of work and have no income at the moment, living off savings. Ive been on the fence about getting my MMJ card here in Mass since its gone legal. I have one of the main listed qualifying conditions, but without knowing if i can grow permanently, which is the main incentive for me to get it, i don't think its really worth it. I figure i can grow my own meds for the year for less than it would cost me to buy meds for 4-5 months. The cost only goes down with each successive grow since the equipment is already purchased. Right now, for all intents and purpose, the only thing i can't do legally is grow and posses more than an OZ. I've also talked to some Mass MMJ card holders who would be interested in a "CO-OP" type situation because of the great cost savings potential., but again, on a personal level, not wanting to register as a dispensary.

If i get a card and start growing, then they do away with my hardship license, most likely since i live in an area that will have dispensaries nearby, do i eat the cost of my grow setup? Ill be forced, legally, to go to a dispensary and still pay prices that are totally unreasonable. Right now, if I'm thinking this through correctly, worst case scenario is i get my meds confiscated?

Pros:
legality/ stress reduction
temporary legal growing
higher personal limit

Cons:
cost/savings ratio
possible future restrictions on producing own meds
yearly? renewals
being on (another) governmental registry

What your thoughts?
 
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Edgar9

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You need to find out what the financial hardship requirments are b/c that's your only chance to continue growing legally since there will be dispensaries near you.

Right now you obviously qualify b/c you're broke. If you get another job however you may not qualify for the financial hardship.

So if you get a job your options are:

1. Wait until it's totally legal.
2. Buy bud from the dispensaries.
3. Not grow at all.
4. Move to Colorado.
5. Grow illegally, while being careful and keeping your plant count low.

This is why I was never too excited about the MA mmj ruling b/c in a nutshell it sucks. Even if you can qualify based on a condition they make you buy bud at "street" prices once the dispensaries open. Unless of course you're broke. Yaaaay, I can grow if I'm a deadbeat. I'm not sure what to do either. We're all in the same boat. Option 5 really seems like the only thing to do.
 
Nutes and Nugs

Nutes and Nugs

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WeedFreak78 said:
I'm out of work and have no income at the moment, living off savings. Ive been on the fence about getting my MMJ card here in Mass since its gone legal. I have one of the main listed qualifying conditions, but without knowing if i can grow permanently, which is the main incentive for me to get it, i don't think its really worth it. I figure i can grow my own meds for the year for less than it would cost me to buy meds for 4-5 months. The cost only goes down with each successive grow since the equipment is already purchased. Right now, for all intents and purpose, the only thing i can't do legally is grow and posses more than an OZ. I've also talked to some Mass MMJ card holders who would be interested in a "CO-OP" type situation because of the great cost savings potential., but again, on a personal level, not wanting to register as a dispensary.

If i get a card and start growing, then they do away with my hardship license, most likely since i live in an area that will have dispensaries nearby, do i eat the cost of my grow setup? Ill be forced, legally, to go to a dispensary and still pay prices that are totally unreasonable. Right now, if I'm thinking this through correctly, worst case scenario is i get my meds confiscated?

Pros:
legality/ stress reduction
temporary legal growing
higher personal limit

Cons:
cost/savings ratio
possible future restrictions on producing own meds
yearly? renewals
being on (another) governmental registry

What your thoughts?
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I'm not trying to be a dick but,
Tell that to the judge.
They will shoot you down.

If you grow, the govt wants their cut of your money.
This is what "legal" means to me.
 
WeedFreak78

WeedFreak78

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Nutes and Nugs said:
I'm not trying to be a dick but,
Tell that to the judge.
They will shoot you down.

If you grow, the govt wants their cut of your money.
This is what "legal" means to me.
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I realize my argument wont hold water in a court. I try to abide by laws when i can and when i feel they are just, but for the most part i do want i want, I truly believe in the "do unto others" rule and I'm aware of the consequences of going outside the law. I'm going to look into the hardship laws, i have no intention of going back to work anytime soon , and i'm not sure whether i'm applying/going to qualify for any unemployment benefits. The initial up front cost might be worth it if i can get a hardship license. I'm not looking to get rich growing, i just want to cut my personal med costs. It pisses me off that everything in this country that could be a good thing gets turned into a profit generating system that usually excludes the people its supposed to benefit.
 
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Edgar9

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joe macclennan said:
so being broke = deadbeat to you?

that's fucked up. I think you are out of touch with the majority of america bud:joint:
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Are you stupid our what? Maybe you just can't read and comprehend?

I was poking fun at how the new law is set up. In that if you get a job you can't grow. Therefore to be able to grow one must stay unemployed intentionally.

It's almost like the state is promoting unemployment if you want to grow your own.

Most people would agree that if you stay unemployed intentionally you are in fact a deadbeat.

Now back to the situation concerning the op now that bonehead joe has been informed on the norms of society.

@weedfreak, one idea is to find someone, or mulitple people who are MMJ cardholders and be their caregiver. In that situation you could grow for them and obvioulsy keep some for yourself. Just don't tell anyone. You would have to do the math figuring how much it would cost to grow versus how much they will demand. Most people who have this arrangement don't charge their patients any money so you have to make sure it's worth it.
 
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joe macclennan

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Edgar9 said:
Unless of course you're broke. Yaaaay, I can grow if I'm a deadbeat..
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your exact words.... Too bad you can't comprehend the meaning of your own statement.


you getting that mad on the internet about one post? Mad enough you had to double post??? LOL

Kinda says a lot about you bud.

but carry on with your moral crusade :evil:

and flame away if it makes you feel better brother. maybe someone needs to give you a hug?
 
Dr.J20

Dr.J20

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OP: I think you might need to talk to a lawyer about this one

joe seems like you're slightly trying to passive aggresively fan the flames, particularly since you clearly cruised the thread and responded to an irrelevant and slightly contextually askew statment; yes, literally speaking, the two statements were juxtaposed, but, the explanation sufficed to demonstrate that there was ironic intent behind the statement, regardless of the literal inscription.

edgar, sometimes you're misunderstood on forums online, and its best to let those misunderstandings go, rather than try to more clearly explain yourself--though i did appreciate you spelling it out for joe.

so lets all have a quick chuckle at the situation and get back to the op's point: mass has a fucking quagmire of a law, no?
anyone else dealing with this shit out there in taxachussetts?

6. move to a place further away from dispensaries, but not outside the state?
7. run/work at the dispensary yourself? (Solves job and growing problem...)
dr.j
 
WeedFreak78

WeedFreak78

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Well since I typed this ive done much thinking. Dont like the population density, dont like the politics, dont like the restrictive laws. Sick of the winters.

Dr.J20 said:
OP:
so lets all have a quick chuckle at the situation and get back to the op's point: mass has a fucking quagmire of a law, no?
anyone else dealing with this shit out there in taxachussetts?

6. move to a place further away from dispensaries, but not outside the state?
7. run/work at the dispensary yourself? (Solves job and growing problem...)
dr.j
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Number 6 is kind of where im at right now. Move FAR away from this state. I figure its the time to do it, No job, i got money in the bank so i can float myself for a couple years, living with family so not much overhead holding me back. I just need to figure out where to go. Milder winters/longer growing season, less people, looser personal freedoms, cheap buildable land. south/southwest is where im looking...eastern CO is looking promising, and not just because of legal MJ.

Edgar9, While i understand that none of your comments were directed at me, I think you should rethink the terminology deadbeat, while i agree most people would label someone who doesn't want to work a deadbeat, its a ignorant over generalization. Society is too quick to judge people without understanding their unique circumstances. We can only improve society by improving ourselves first.
 
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