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Molecular terminology and naming conventions
The water molecule has the chemical formula H2O, meaning each molecule of water is composed of two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom. Literally, the term "dihydrogen monoxide" means "two hydrogen, one oxygen", consistent with its molecular formula: the prefix di- in dihydrogen means "two", the prefix mon- in monoxide means "one", and an oxide is a compound that contains one or more oxygen atoms.[11]

Using chemical nomenclature, various names for water are in common use within the scientific community. Some such names include hydrogen oxide, as well as an alkali name of hydrogen hydroxide, and several acid names such as hydric acid, hydroxic acid, hydroxyl acid, and hydroxilic acid. The term "hydroxyl acid" used in the original text is a non-standard name.[12]

Under the 2005 revisions of IUPAC nomenclature of inorganic chemistry, there is no single correct name for every compound.[13] The primary function of chemical nomenclature is to ensure that each name refers, unambiguously, to a single substance. It is considered less important to ensure that each substance should have a single name, although the number of acceptable names is limited.[13] Water is one acceptable name for this compound, even though it is neither a systematic nor an international name and is specific to just one phase of the compound. The other IUPAC recommendation is oxidane.[14]
 
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  • Public efforts involving the DHMO hoax
    • In 1989, Eric Lechner, Lars Norpchen and Matthew Kaufman circulated a Dihydrogen Monoxide contamination warning on the University of California, Santa Cruz campus via photocopied fliers.[15] The concept originated one afternoon when Kaufman recalled a similar warning about "Hydrogen Hydroxide" that had been published in his mother's hometown paper, the Durand (Michigan) Express, and the three then worked to coin a term that "sounded more dangerous." Lechner typed up the original warning flier on Kaufman's computer, and a trip to the local photocopying center followed that night.
    • In 1994, Craig Jackson created a web page for the Coalition to Ban DHMO.[7]
    • The Friends of Hydrogen Hydroxide was created by Dan Curtis Johnson partly as a foil on the Coalition page, to provide evidence of 'misguided' supporters of dihydrogen monoxide. This form of collaborative connivance is a classic tool of internet spoofers.[16]
    • In 1997, Nathan Zohner, a 14-year-old junior high student at Eagle Rock Junior High School in Idaho Falls, Idaho, gathered 43 votes to ban the chemical, out of 50 people surveyed among his classmates. Zohner received the first prize at Greater Idaho Falls Science Fair for analysis of the results of his survey.[2] In recognition of his experiment, journalist James K. Glassman coined the term "Zohnerism" to refer to "the use of a true fact to lead a scientifically and mathematically ignorant public to a false conclusion."[17]
    • In 1998, drawing inspiration from Jackson's web page and Zohner's research, Tom Way created a website at DHMo_Org, including links to some legitimate sites such as the Environmental Protection Agency and National Institutes of Health.
    • On April 1, 1998 (April Fools' Day), a member of the Australian Parliament announced a campaign to ban dihydrogen monoxide internationally.[18]
    • In 2001 a staffer in New Zealand Green Party MP Sue Kedgley's office responded to a request for support for a campaign to ban dihydrogen monoxide by saying she was "absolutely supportive of the campaign to ban this toxic substance". This was criticized in a press release by the National Party,[19] one of whose MPs fell for the very same hoax six years later.[20]
    • In 2002, radio talk show host Neal Boortz mentioned on the air that the Atlanta water system had been checked and found to be contaminated with dihydrogen monoxide, and set about relating the hazards associated with that "dangerous" chemical. A local TV station even covered the 'scandal'. A spokesperson for the city's water system told the reporter that there was no more dihydrogen monoxide in the system than what was allowed under the law.[21]
    • The idea was used for a segment of an episode of the Penn & Teller show Penn & Teller: Bullshit!, in which actress Kris McGaha and a camera crew gathered signatures from people considering themselves "concerned environmentalists" to sign a petition to ban DHMO.[22]
    • In March 2004, Aliso Viejo, California, almost considered banning the use of foam containers at city-sponsored events because dihydrogen monoxide is part of their production. A paralegal had asked the city council to put it on the agenda; he later attributed it to poor research.[23] The bill was pulled from the agenda before it could come to a vote, but not before the city received a raft of bad publicity.[2]

  • Tongue-in-cheek warning sign in Louisville, Kentucky
  • In 2006, in Louisville, Kentucky, David Karem, executive director of the Waterfront Development Corporation, a public body that operates Waterfront Park, wished to deter bathers from using a large public fountain. "Counting on a lack of understanding about water's chemical makeup," he arranged for signs reading: "DANGER! – WATER CONTAINS HIGH LEVELS OF HYDROGEN – KEEP OUT" to be posted on the fountain at public expense.[24][25]
  • Occasionally, petitions on the UK Government e-petitions website on this subject have been closed or rejected.[26]
  • In 2007 Jacqui Dean, New Zealand National Party MP, fell for the hoax, writing a letter to Associate Minister of Health Jim Anderton asking "Does the Expert Advisory Committee on Drugs have a view on the banning of this drug?"[20][27][28]
  • On April 1, 2010, Canadian Member of Parliament Andrew Scheer used the DHMO hoax as the basis for an April Fool's Day "media release" on his web site, in which he claimed to have tabled a bill to ban the substance from all federal government buildings.[29] Scheer became Canada's speaker of the House in 2011.
  • In February 2011, during the campaign of the Finnish parliamentary election, a voting advice application asked the candidates whether the availability of "hydric acid also known as dihydrogen monoxide" should be restricted. 49% of the candidates answered in favor of the restriction.[30]
  • In April 2013, two presenters at Gator Country 101.9, a radio station in Lee County, Florida, told listeners dihydrogen monoxide was coming out of their water taps as part of an April Fool's Day prank and were suspended for a few days[31] by the station's general manager, Tony Renda. Renda later told NewsPress: "It is one thing when radio stations change their format or other crazy things they do. But you are messing with one of the big three, food, water or shelter. They just went too far; I just knew I didn't like that."[32] The prank resulted in several calls by consumers to the local utility company, which sent out a release stating that the water was safe
 
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DHMO in education and debate
The DHMO hoax has been used in science education to encourage critical thinking and discussion of the scientific method.[34][35]

An Kye Burchard, a freshman at Great Falls High said in an ironic editorial about the fears of dihydrogen monoxide that: "The point here is that it's easy to make anything sound like it's scary. People drown in water every day, and water is used as a flame retardant. People tend to assume that things with scary names and vague descriptions are bad for you, even though they aren't always."[36] Jennifer Abel from Consumer Affairs also said: "search online for information about dihydrogen monoxide, and you'll find a long list of scary and absolutely true warnings about it: used by the nuclear power industry, vital to the production of everything from pesticides to Styrofoam, present in tumors removed from cancer patients, and guaranteed fatal to humans in large quantities."[37]
 
Dan Kone

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hyroot said:
theres no dhmo in water. that was part of the hoax.. monoxide - oxygen molecule is. you combine the other chemicals and becomes a hydric acid
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looks like you were wrong and full of shit the whole time. Thanks for making me look good

how.did you prove I'm full of shit. When all you did is troll using false information. The whole time I said there's no dhmo and I was right . Everything I said is factual and legit. All you did was prove how fraudulent you are. Your credit score just dropped dramatically. You lost all credibility. But mine just went up thanks to you.

its obvious your the faker. And have to prove you are better than you truly are. I feel sorry for people like you that have to lie to look good.
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You are just proving how big of a fraud you are right now. It's very entertaining though, so by all means, keep going.

And technically nothing I posted was false information. All water hash does have water in it. And you can die from water inhalation, or as it's commonly called, drowning. Water does have a lethal dosage if you consume too much.

Nothing I said was incorrect.
 
Joedank

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Dan Kone said:
You are just proving how big of a fraud you are right now. It's very entertaining though, so by all means, keep going.

And technically nothing I posted was false information. All water hash does have water in it. And you can die from water inhalation, or as it's commonly called, drowning. Water does have a lethal dosage if you consume too much.

Nothing I said was incorrect.
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are there more than a few cases of aspergillus in hash . is it improper storing ?
or already in it due to contam in the plant matter??
 
Daggy

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Dan Kone said:
You are just proving how big of a fraud you are right now. It's very entertaining though, so by all means, keep going.

And technically nothing I posted was false information. All water hash does have water in it. And you can die from water inhalation, or as it's commonly called, drowning. Water does have a lethal dosage if you consume too much.

Nothing I said was incorrect.
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LOL... HAALLLPPPP IM DROWNING OFF A DABBBB!!!!!
 
Dan Kone

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Joedank said:
are there more than a few cases of aspergillus in hash . is it improper storing ?
or already in it due to contam in the plant matter??
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In trace amounts it's actually found in every single hash sample on SClabs's testing website. However for the most part they are all "<100 cfu/g". However there a good chunk of them testing over 1000 cfu/g. There isn't a single "none detected" on any of the tests.

However the same can be said about flowers. I'm looking at a flower sample of my friend's grow right now and it's listed as "<100 cfu/g". This comes from an absolutely immaculate grow. Temp/humidity are perfect. The rooms are bleached between cycles. Not a single dead leaf in the room EVER. Great airflow. So I'd guess those <100cfu/g tests are probably harmless. However I don't know enough about the subject to say for sure.

So what I think is happening is that it's in all cannabis. However when you make cold water hash or co2 oil and don't get all the moisture out, the bicrobiological life thrive. So when you see those 1000+ tests, it's likely they didn't dry it out fast enough. And yes, likely improper storing.

So the contaminants likely come from the plant, and are just replicating on improperly dried/stored hash/co2 oil.
 
Joedank

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Dan Kone said:
In trace amounts it's actually found in every single hash sample on SClabs's testing website. However for the most part they are all "<100 cfu/g". However there a good chunk of them testing over 1000 cfu/g. There isn't a single "none detected" on any of the tests.

However the same can be said about flowers. I'm looking at a flower sample of my friend's grow right now and it's listed as "<100 cfu/g". This comes from an absolutely immaculate grow. Temp/humidity are perfect. The rooms are bleached between cycles. Not a single dead leaf in the room EVER. Great airflow. So I'd guess those <100cfu/g tests are probably harmless. However I don't know enough about the subject to say for sure.

So what I think is happening is that it's in all cannabis. However when you make cold water hash or co2 oil and don't get all the moisture out, the bicrobiological life thrive. So when you see those 1000+ tests, it's likely they didn't dry it out fast enough. And yes, likely improper storing.

So the contaminants likely come from the plant, and are just replicating on improperly dried/stored hash/co2 oil.
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well do you think for high risk patients irradatied cannabis is the way to go??
 
yktind

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Dan Kone said:
It's also a fact that all cold water hash contains DHMO (dihydrogen monoxide). This chemcial can be incredibly dangerous.

From the MSDS report on Diyhdrogen Monoxide:

Section V: HEALTH HAZARD INFORMATION
V 1: ROUTE OF ENTRY:
EYE : Irritant in sensitive persons
Skin Contact : May cause discomfort depending on temperature.
Skin Absorption : : May cause temporary wrinkling of skin.
Inhalation : Inhalation of liquid can be fatal.
Ingestion : Ingestion of large quantities may result in excessive micturation.
V 2: EFFECTS OF OVEREXPOSURE:
Acute Exposure : Inhalation of liquid can cause serious discomfort, possible tissue damage and is often fatal.
Chronic Exposure: Not known to cause permanent effects other than excessive micturation due to large amounts being
ingested..

Inhalation can be fatal. And you inhale it every time you smoke cold water hash!

See for yourself:

http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
http://www.dhmo.org/msds/MSDS-DHMO-Kemp.pdf
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Dan Kone

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Joedank said:
well do you think for high risk patients irradatied cannabis is the way to go??
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I've never heard of some one irradiating cannabis. I know nothing about that. Seems extreme though. I'd actually think something that's either been decarboxolated or bho, as it's a hostile environment to microbiological life. I'd think that just taking that hash and baking it would neutralize it.
 
Joedank

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Dan Kone said:
I've never heard of some one irradiating cannabis. I know nothing about that. Seems extreme though. I'd actually think something that's either been decarboxolated or bho, as it's a hostile environment to microbiological life. I'd think that just taking that hash and baking it would neutralize it.
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its being done all over canaduh according to lore ... please correct me if iam wrong
 
R&RHashman

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I wrote a big paper in my college English class all about the dangers of DHMO man did I have them ready to grab the pitchforks and light the torches all in the oh 15-20 min I had to read to them. good times bongsmilie
 
MJtheIndicator

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I do not envy the alleged industrial complex of BHO makers or the current crossover to supercritical co2. Some days the solvent community is behaving like the last days in a Führerbunker, other days folks are moving down court like Allen Iverson breaking ankles which is fun for a few seasons until the excrement hits the air-conditioning unit.

Cannabis has had nearly a half century in the hearts and minds of popular culture to anchor itself with selling points like "organic" and "natural". If we are to be reasonable then it would be wise to accept that flower is the dollar and the little guy or oil barons in this case are by-product of the farmer's genius. In turn the farmer is by-product of the breeder's genius which is the temple in which we all worship. I'm not calling your stainless steel apparatus a false idol for to some it is patriarchal archetype just like the Ford Model T was. At the time it must have seemed the most unnatural and inorganic answer to our pal the horse, but that didn't stop us from endangering the planet and its resources within the course of a century.
 
Dan Kone

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MJtheIndicator said:
I do not envy the alleged industrial complex of BHO makers or the current crossover to supercritical co2. Some days the solvent community is behaving like the last days in a Führerbunker, other days folks are moving down court like Allen Iverson breaking ankles which is fun for a few seasons until the excrement hits the air-conditioning unit.
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I'm pretty sure everyone stopped reading when you compared bho makers to the nazis. Good job.
 
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Joedank said:
its being done all over canaduh according to lore ... please correct me if iam wrong
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i've heard that it's routine processing for product from Tweed (cannaduh's foremost legal 'gubment pot' provider), but that was last year so i don't know if they're still doing it. (ETA: they call the process 'cold pasteurization.')

note: i've yet to encounter a single individual who actually uses their meds legitimately, though i've seen fb pictures of leafy, stemmy bags they bought from them 'just for a lark'
 
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Joedank

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mellokitty said:
i've heard that it's routine processing for product from Tweed (cannaduh's foremost legal 'gubment pot' provider), but that was last year so i don't know if they're still doing it.

note: i've yet to encounter a single individual who actually uses their meds legitimately, though i've seen fb pictures of leafy, stemmy bags they bought from them 'just for a lark'
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this is why your awsome:) always got my back....
 
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