ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize

JuiceMC

Member
Props on the thread, Matt Rize and other contributors. Great tips on the process... and some amazing pictures of some top of the line ice wax.
 

yktind

Well-Known Member
hi folks, did a run today with pure agent orange trim. fresh frozen. terrible yield but the quality seems like my best yet. problem was microplaning it, did the normal things putting it in the freezer but it kept turning to oil as soon as i took it out the freezer. can't see sieving being much easier with that kind of end result either. just wondering what others did with grease like this? should i have freezed it longer than the 20mins i gave it? i'm thinking to just chop it up with blades next time it comes out like that. also, i'm going to try my first pure nug run soon, what's the best way to go about this? how big shall i leave the buds? how dry shall i get the material before washing? and what kind of yields do folks get per oz of pure bud roughly? i know it varies wildly. thanks all for any help!!
I haven't personally been able to get the grease affect (it is strain dependent). @Frenchy Cannoli had the same issue and I do believe it was agent orange that it happened to. He basically breaks his up almost immediatly after washing it.

Me, I put my putty in the fridge overnight to dry. I also keep all of my tools in the freezer. Then it is just a back and forth, grate it as best as possible before it starts getting gooey then back into the freezer and fridge. Sometimes it takes a long time. My skywalker run wasn't quite grease but it didn't grate for shit. Had to keep going freezer then grate for 1 min then back to the freezer and so on.
 

MD84

Member
I haven't personally been able to get the grease affect (it is strain dependent). @Frenchy Cannoli had the same issue and I do believe it was agent orange that it happened to. He basically breaks his up almost immediatly after washing it.

Me, I put my putty in the fridge overnight to dry. I also keep all of my tools in the freezer. Then it is just a back and forth, grate it as best as possible before it starts getting gooey then back into the freezer and fridge. Sometimes it takes a long time. My skywalker run wasn't quite grease but it didn't grate for shit. Had to keep going freezer then grate for 1 min then back to the freezer and so on.
that's interesting, it seems like a good strain to extract from but the yields are pretty bad. i've not had real grease after drying myself. but this run was very oily. i was doing pretty much as you say above, but this time i just think i needed to freeze it for longer. 20 mins has been fine before. i guess it depends how greasy it is when you first pull it out the bags and then go from there. only my third run since planing so i guess it's just a learning curve.i did notice more oils ontop of the water than i've noticed before when stirring, would this be an indicator of how greasy it's going to be? great thread btw!
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
all the orange strains are low yield for hash. gotta move fast to grate the juicy juice. try freezing the patty, the microplanes, and your hands.
that's interesting, it seems like a good strain to extract from but the yields are pretty bad. i've not had real grease after drying myself. but this run was very oily. i was doing pretty much as you say above, but this time i just think i needed to freeze it for longer. 20 mins has been fine before. i guess it depends how greasy it is when you first pull it out the bags and then go from there. only my third run since planing so i guess it's just a learning curve.i did notice more oils ontop of the water than i've noticed before when stirring, would this be an indicator of how greasy it's going to be? great thread btw!
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MD84

Member
all the orange strains are low yield for hash. gotta move fast to grate the juicy juice. try freezing the patty, the microplanes, and your hands.

e iragnb
thanks for the response. i've never smelt hash so good, the agent always seems to make lovely extracts but yes the yield is terrible. one thing i've also noticed is that it seems to 'white up' quite easily and take on the fudge like consistency. although this could be down to bad planing and drying conditions. i'll try another run this week with a few tweaks and report back. atb
 

sfbaycannabis

New Member
Much thanks to Matt and all of the helpful contributors on this thread. Here's my first run using lowbrow tech.

- 5 minute hand agitation with wooden spoon - 2 runs.
- Borrowed 3 bag set - 220/73/25
- Dried on screens using many paper towels
- Frozen and then micro-planed.
- Drying over cardboard to insure a mold free product.


Improvements:

- Moving to an 8 bag set/washer
- Picked up hand sprayer for screens

Question:

- Any recommendations/links on climate/RH controlled drying solutions specifically for Ice Wax? My climate plain old sucks and I'd like to move off of cardboard and onto metal/parchment.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Matt Rize

Hashmaster
thanks for the response. i've never smelt hash so good, the agent always seems to make lovely extracts but yes the yield is terrible. one thing i've also noticed is that it seems to 'white up' quite easily and take on the fudge like consistency. although this could be down to bad planing and drying conditions. i'll try another run this week with a few tweaks and report back. atb
This fudge like consistency is crystallization. We call it "cake", there are other terms for crystallized water hash. I do all I can to prevent this crystallization, starting from a proper dry, then to a cold cure in the wine cooler until pressed before dabbing.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Much thanks to Matt and all of the helpful contributors on this thread. Here's my first run using lowbrow tech.

- 5 minute hand agitation with wooden spoon - 2 runs.
- Borrowed 3 bag set - 220/73/25
- Dried on screens using many paper towels
- Frozen and then micro-planed.
- Drying over cardboard to insure a mold free product.


Improvements:

- Moving to an 8 bag set/washer
- Picked up hand sprayer for screens

Question:

- Any recommendations/links on climate/RH controlled drying solutions specifically for Ice Wax? My climate plain old sucks and I'd like to move off of cardboard and onto metal/parchment.

Thanks in advance!
Please, if you use cardboard, also use parchment paper on top of it. Cardboard is dirty and fibrous!

Dry as cold as you can, and as dry as you can, as finely broken up as you can. Refridgerators are too humid in my opinion, to make properly dried hash, you need an air conditioned and dehumidified area for drying.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Thanks to everyone for the questions, answers, and good vibes. Please re-ask if I have missed your question.

I have very limited internet these days but ... here goes some indoor whole flower Fire OG ice wax, cured since January in my wine cooler. I prefer the hash fresh, especially from fresh frozen material as in this case. But keeping melt of this quality from "caking" was a true challenge.
 

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Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Someone asked how I make my hash look like shatter...

I dry it properly, crucial step or it will be brown and soft once pressed.
Then I keep the dried hash cold until pressing.
I press it very thinly between parchment paper, using a heated piece of glass or quartz.
Then I let the pressed hash cool and bam, ice wax shatter.

Credit to the farmer, Subcool
 

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ballaboyee21

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Hey I saw your post with pocket cured ice wax. Can you explain the process? How long do you keep it in your pocket? What is being achieved by having it in your pocket?

BTW stunning extractions you've been providing to patients! You've completely eliminated any harmful plant material! All with ice and water too. Thanks for all the information you've provided
 

Stony62

New Member
Thanks to everyone for the questions, answers, and good vibes. Please re-ask if I have missed your question.

I have very limited internet these days but ... here goes some indoor whole flower Fire OG ice wax, cured since January in my wine cooler. I prefer the hash fresh, especially from fresh frozen material as in this case. But keeping melt of this quality from "caking" was a true challenge.
If your hash is a little harsh when smoked is that bc moisture is still present? What's the proper feel in between fingers just sand like and won't stick to fingers? Also did an sfv and jillybean fresh frozen run thought id do solid but as you said not good yields on jilly.. now I understand why you microplane on different sheet trays.. All the grated strands stuck together in matter of seconds.. the pattys were kept cold but turned real dark after dried overnight but still grated cream sand color is that the fudge "crystallization" y'all are talking about?
 

MD84

Member
i've been struggling to find a metal bucket big enough to do my runs in. all i could find was galvanised buckets, would these be unsafe for hash making?

atb
 

Stony62

New Member
i've been struggling to find a metal bucket big enough to do my runs in. all i could find was galvanised buckets, would these be unsafe for hash making?

atb
Look at a kitchen store... they will have whAtever metal bowl size... (Sur la table) also if your shit extra greasy I would say to microplane over sheet trays your stuff will begin to clump up rather easily in a bowl unless your in a super cold place...
 

hyroot

Well-Known Member
i've been struggling to find a metal bucket big enough to do my runs in. all i could find was galvanised buckets, would these be unsafe for hash making?

atb
bed bath and beyond has the metal bowl and the mesh bowls the cheapest. Williams Sonoma has the microplanes the cheapest.
 

MD84

Member
bowl? was thinking something about 20ltrs. i actually plane onto parchment ontop of some cardboard for now. we don't have acces to these big american stores where i'm from unfortunately. i'll have another search around. thanks
 
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