i need a good stout and good moon shine recipe

David Boggs

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try some elderberrys or blackberry wine if they grow where you live and cherrys and grapes.i also use peaches and apples for wine and wiskey.
 

David Boggs

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those 6 is what makes good wine and wiskey.if you make corn wiskey sprout your corn till the sprouts get 1 inch long and then dry that in the sun on a tarp and then grind it up like crack corn not to fine put 3-10 quort water buckets of that spouted corn to a 55 gallon barel and 75 pounds of suger with 3 packs or bread yeast.you should get 7 to 7 and a half gallon of wiskey per barol.depends on the minerals in the water,spring water is best.if using citey water run it in your barol and let it set 48 hours to air out and it works just fine.
 

David Boggs

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That is some great advice.

My favorite wine is grapes, oranges, and sugar. For better flavor I use the Lanvin k1-v1116 yeast at about 16-18% abv.
never made nun from oranges they cost to much here and don't grow in ky..ps but if I had them I dam sure would use them to make wine and wiskey if the oranges where free to me to use..
 

jtp92

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stanless boller is the way to go and a thumper stanless between it and the copper worm....fruit or berrys make the best shine witch is called brandy. I been doing it for 40 years and my father and grandfather as well did it till the day they died.500 gallen boller 20 gallon thumper 1 and a half inch worm.8- 55 gallen barles boiled at a time...........................................................ky...............corn wiskey is good but brandy taste beater and brings more money pergalon..75 pounds of suger and 10 gallen of fruit or berrys perbarol.hope you can read my shity writing.ps if you was in ky I would show you what good shin is..
Ha I'm not far from KY how good is it lol
 

jtp92

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Extract or all grain?
Man I really don't know I haven't really even studied it enough to tell u I've never made it before and we still don't have the still yet I'm just using this thread to help me learn more and more as I go but I will probably go with grain
 

NapalmZen

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Man I really don't know I haven't really even studied it enough to tell u I've never made it before and we still don't have the still yet I'm just using this thread to help me learn more and more as I go but I will probably go with grain
That is by far the most expensive way.

Brandy and vodka are the easiest, cheapest, and best tasting.

Did you figure out how to open that book?
 

David Boggs

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GRAIN is by far the easiest and the cheapest to make.Good brandy cost 10 times moor money to make,and using corn it is best to sprout the corn first befor you mash it..
 

homebrewer

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Man I really don't know I haven't really even studied it enough to tell u I've never made it before and we still don't have the still yet I'm just using this thread to help me learn more and more as I go but I will probably go with grain
I was referring to the stout recipe. It sounds like you've never brewed before, in that case just buy a kit. The beer won't be any good anyways.
 

NapalmZen

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GRAIN is by far the easiest and the cheapest to make.Good brandy cost 10 times moor money to make,and using corn it is best to sprout the corn first befor you mash it..
Well, I'm going off memory so I may be wrong. What I remember is that you need something like 5 to 10 times the grains compared to sugar in order to get equal amounts of usable ethanol from mash.

Brandy can be made by adding fruit for flavor and supplementing sugar for abv.

Strait sugar can be used for making vodca.

So the question is, how much does a 50lb bag of sugar cost compared to a 50lb bag of grain?

Sugar costs around $20@50lb and corn costs about $15@50lb. This makes sugar cheaper. Sugar will generate almost pure alcohol. Grains will not come close.

I never mass produced shine. I made it as a hobby. I have never sourced bulk orders of either. I don't live by farming communities with access to grain. I'm basing my observations on local store pricing.
 

David Boggs

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grain and sugar makes shin or fruit or berrys with sugar makes shin brandy.and grain is 10 times cheeper then fruit or berrys.peaches 120.00 bushel,corn 11.00 a 100 pounds you do the math and peaches is the chepest of all berrys or fruit all but appels here.my family was making shin in 1880 and was cared on till now.when I was a kid every kid almost was making there own shin by age 15.............they had to eat.
 

NapalmZen

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grain and sugar makes shin or fruit or berrys with sugar makes shin brandy.and grain is 10 times cheeper then fruit or berrys.peaches 120.00 bushel,corn 11.00 a 100 pounds you do the math and peaches is the chepest of all berrys or fruit all but appels here.my family was making shin in 1880 and was cared on till now.when I was a kid every kid almost was making there own shin by age 15.............they had to eat.
That is correct. Normally when making wiskey or sour mash no sugar is used. In that case the other methods are cheaper. But using corn and supplementing sugar, you are correct.

However, going strait sugar is the cheapest method. Gin, fruit, and liqueur flavorings can be added after at a fraction of the cost.
 

jtp92

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those 6 is what makes good wine and wiskey.if you make corn wiskey sprout your corn till the sprouts get 1 inch long and then dry that in the sun on a tarp and then grind it up like crack corn not to fine put 3-10 quort water buckets of that spouted corn to a 55 gallon barel and 75 pounds of suger with 3 packs or bread yeast.you should get 7 to 7 and a half gallon of wiskey per barol.depends on the minerals in the water,spring water is best.if using citey water run it in your barol and let it set 48 hours to air out and it works just fine.
Is 7gl all you can get from a 55gl barrel because I have one I was going to use as the pot to save money
 
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