I invited the police in and gave them a tour, seriously

ttystikk

ttystikk

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I could well end up screwed in this situation, but if I do my part I see no reason why they'll be anything but gracious.

Once they've stopped by for their second compliance check and see that I have twelve stems and no more, then they will have zero excuse for another visit.

NO MATTER WHAT.
 
panhead

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a senile fungus said:
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I'd be honored if you'd give me some insight in the up and coming months on a couple of plans that I'd like to bring to fruition.

I don't know if you remember, but I'm fairly local to you, and could totally use your experience.

Do you PM? Would you mind if I sent you a message?
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Wouldnt mind at all bro , i keep a little mental note of guys near me & knew were from the same parts , we do our summers at the house in Frankenmuth & winters in Bloomfield Hills so were allways in state .

I would be happy to help however i can .
 
ttystikk

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panhead said:
Wouldnt mind at all bro , i keep a little mental note of guys near me & knew were from the same parts , we do our summers at the house in Frankenmuth & winters in Bloomfield Hills so were allways in state .

I would be happy to help however i can .
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Ya suppose you could have this side conversation somewhere other than this, totally unrelated thread? Mod that you are? :mrgreen:
 
panhead

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ttystikk said:
I could well end up screwed in this situation, but if I do my part I see no reason why they'll be anything but gracious.

Once they've stopped by for their second compliance check and see that I have twelve stems and no more, then they will have zero excuse for another visit.

NO MATTER WHAT.
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Yup you have the proper attitude & approach , as long as your within the law & KNOW your within the law its best to allow them in if they have a compliance warrant , without 1 deny them entry , the warrant is to your benifit because it limits what , where , when & how they search , it also makes them liable for their actions while within the dwelling as long as your in compliance .


As long as they have that compliance warrant they are comming in anyway so its best to be as helpfull as possible , just remember if they wish they can make fire saftey hazzards like extension cords , breakers pushed to their limits , distances of hot lights from flamables like the ceiling prime reasons to shut you down on the spot .

You have the time to prep everything for their visit , make it a waste of their time to come back .
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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panhead said:
Yup you have the proper attitude & approach , as long as your within the law & KNOW your within the law its best to allow them in if they have a compliance warrant , without 1 deny them entry , the warrant is to your benifit because it limits what , where , when & how they search , it also makes them liable for their actions while within the dwelling as long as your in compliance .


As long as they have that compliance warrant they are comming in anyway so its best to be as helpfull as possible , just remember if they wish they can make fire saftey hazzards like extension cords , breakers pushed to their limits , distances of hot lights from flamables like the ceiling prime reasons to shut you down on the spot .

You have the time to prep everything for their visit , make it a waste of their time to come back .
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EXACTLY.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Well I didn't get my ducks in a row quite fast enough- it had a lot to do with not being able to see well enough to drive/own my own vehicle- so when they came back yesterday, they gave me grief about having too many plants and about the smell not being contained... in the form of a municipal ticket. They also asked lots of pointed questions about who was helping me, where the money was coming from, discrepancies on my paperwork, why I had a separate business, blah, blah, blah.

Then they said they'd be back in 24 hours for another compliance check.

This afternoon, I met them at the door, let them roam around my house and see for themselves that I was in full compliance, introduced them to my lawyer whom I'd made available to answer their questions about my caregiver status, business operations, etc-

...and they shot out of here faster than a piece of ice squeezed between your fingers.

I'm quite sure we'll beat the ticket just as easily.
 
Doer

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Introduced them to your lawyer. Classic play. Self rule at it's finest. I have pulled that at work. I had a Labor Attorney on retainer, back in the go-go days of stock options. I'd say, "Well, let's get my attorney on the phone."

....."What? Now hold on....uh, we don't need to get to that."

In our system your attorney is your gunslinger. "Better Call Saul" ...."whom I made available to answer any questions"

Damn. That's straight up hard ass businessman there. Done good.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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I'm reposting this here, originally posted in 'two police officers shot in Ferguson'

I've had police in my house three times in the past month. They were here to do their job; make sure that no criminal activity was taking place, that there was no threat to the community and to keep the peace.

I'm not a thug. When they asked me pointed questions about my large and visible collection of marijuana, I was honest; A. It's part of my research project and B. I CAN'T legally sell it, so here it sits!

They stopped by again yesterday to ensure that I was in compliance with state law and local ordinance, and I gave them the run of the house. They looked around, confirmed that I was in compliance and were in such a hurry to leave that they didn't even want to speak with my lawyer, whom I'd made available to answer their questions from the day before.

In other words, they're just trying to do their job. They're in the firing line between laws that make no sense and people who don't know whether they can be trusted, and that makes for a tough day behind the badge.

They treated me with respect because I treated them that way, I'm sure of it.

Does this make me 'pro cop'? A 'police advocate'?

I can say this much; imagine what our cities would look like if there weren't any police, with informal vigilante groups roaming around and thugs who don't care whom they abuse having free reign. That's called 'anarchy' and I'm no fan of that.

Colorado is in the midst of an experiment in marijuana legalization, and I found myself in the position of being something of an ambassador for all of us on RIU and elsewhere who just want to grow our own and be left alone. If I had treated them as enemies, what would that say about all of us?

Yes, I took a calculated risk by letting them in a month ago to look around. What was the likely outcome of refusing them? I'm willing to bet there would have been a search warrant, an arrest (mine!) and lots of nasty charges I'd have had to fight off.

Treating them with respect, recognizing they have a job to do and assuring them that they and I are on the same side- one of peaceable coexistence with neighbors and community- and that I'm doing my best to follow the letter and the spirit of all applicable laws, got me their respect.

Isn't that the way it's supposed to be?
 
weedenhanced

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ttystikk said:
I'm reposting this here, originally posted in 'two police officers shot in Ferguson'

I've had police in my house three times in the past month. They were here to do their job; make sure that no criminal activity was taking place, that there was no threat to the community and to keep the peace.

I'm not a thug. When they asked me pointed questions about my large and visible collection of marijuana, I was honest; A. It's part of my research project and B. I CAN'T legally sell it, so here it sits!

They stopped by again yesterday to ensure that I was in compliance with state law and local ordinance, and I gave them the run of the house. They looked around, confirmed that I was in compliance and were in such a hurry to leave that they didn't even want to speak with my lawyer, whom I'd made available to answer their questions from the day before.

In other words, they're just trying to do their job. They're in the firing line between laws that make no sense and people who don't know whether they can be trusted, and that makes for a tough day behind the badge.

They treated me with respect because I treated them that way, I'm sure of it.

Does this make me 'pro cop'? A 'police advocate'?

I can say this much; imagine what our cities would look like if there weren't any police, with informal vigilante groups roaming around and thugs who don't care whom they abuse having free reign. That's called 'anarchy' and I'm no fan of that.

Colorado is in the midst of an experiment in marijuana legalization, and I found myself in the position of being something of an ambassador for all of us on RIU and elsewhere who just want to grow our own and be left alone. If I had treated them as enemies, what would that say about all of us?

Yes, I took a calculated risk by letting them in a month ago to look around. What was the likely outcome of refusing them? I'm willing to bet there would have been a search warrant, an arrest (mine!) and lots of nasty charges I'd have had to fight off.

Treating them with respect, recognizing they have a job to do and assuring them that they and I are on the same side- one of peaceable coexistence with neighbors and community- and that I'm doing my best to follow the letter and the spirit of all applicable laws, got me their respect.

Isn't that the way it's supposed to be?
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Police r scum and 90% r corrupt as fuck world wide
Igotistical fucken knobs

THERE NEVER THERE WHEN U NEED THEM AND R ALWAYS THERE WHEN U DONT NEED EM
FUCK THE POLICE AND PPL WHO LOVE THEM
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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weedenhanced said:
Police r scum and 90% r corrupt as fuck world wide
Igotistical fucken knobs

THERE NEVER THERE WHEN U NEED THEM AND R ALWAYS THERE WHEN U DONT NEED EM
FUCK THE POLICE AND PPL WHO LOVE THEM
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You're entitled to your opinion, and I've been on the wrong end of an arrest warrant a time or three myself, so I feel where you're coming from.

OTOH, if we growers aren't a threat to society, then why SHOULD we need to fear them? I realize that I'm in Colorado and that it's legal here like damn few other places on the planet- but I'd like to think that we are the advance vanguard of a different way of doing things, one that emphasizes our right to grow our own and be left alone- and that cops don't have to be the enemy.

It's nice to know that if some asshole busts in here to steal my bud, I can pick up the phone and let the professionals handle it. Around here, at least, I can be pretty sure they ARE professionals; ex soldiers, guys with a lot of time at gun ranges and in the line of fire.

In Colorado, growers aren't allowed to have guns in the house or with the grow, and the local cops therefore take their duty of protection very seriously indeed... and believe me when I tell you that they just loooooove to go hunting bad guys.

So don't be one. At least, not in Colorado.
 
WeedFreak78

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ttystikk said:
It's nice to know that if some asshole busts in here to steal my bud, I can pick up the phone and let the professionals handle it. Around here, at least, I can be pretty sure they ARE professionals; ex soldiers, guys with a lot of time at gun ranges and in the line of fire.

In Colorado, growers aren't allowed to have guns in the house or with the grow, and the local cops therefore take their duty of protection very seriously indeed... and believe me when I tell you that they just loooooove to go hunting bad guys.

So don't be one. At least, not in Colorado.
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So you can't legally grow if you're a licensed gun owner? and visa versa? That's asinine..they take away one very effective, legal, means of self protection to a legal group of people who are now going to be targets of criminal activity? I understand the need for a police force..but with 5+minute response times, in the best areas, calling for help when your door gets kicked in isn't really an option..
 
WeedFreak78

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Doer said:
Cops love to hurt the bad guys, like a pitt bull. Just don't get bit, Citizens. :)
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Blame the deed not the breed,,does that apply to police? I don't think so seeing how police are have cognitive thought and still choose to attack the innocent.
 
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