i have sinned in every way possible ,now im doomed

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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i feel like im doomed , ive got to go for a colonscopy in 2 weeks time , and i think they will find cancer , i think ive been a bad person and i deserve it , im starting to believe certaian parts of Christianity are true , if i look back on my life ive made other people and other animals suffer , from burning ants with bleach to being the class bully and beating people up just for having ginger hair or for being fat or wearing glasses , ive been a horrible glutenous person and now at 32 i think im going to pay for it .
i dont know if its indoctrination making me feel like this or i am actually realizing the bad person ive been , i kind of starting to believe i am a bad person and i should of believed in a god , i feel like im due , torture and punishment , ive lived a life of bliss from about 12 years old , ive been able to take whatever drug ive wanted whenever ive wanted , ive fucked sluts and snorted powder every night for years , i now feel like im going to die , i have this test coming up , im shitting blood and i yhink its all gonna catch up with me now
 
ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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is karma real ? i can look back at events during my life and see what ihave done wrong and how ive been punished, im freaking out .
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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ThE sAtIvA hIgH said:
i feel like im doomed , ive got to go for a colonscopy in 2 weeks time , and i think they will find cancer , i think ive been a bad person and i deserve it , im starting to believe certaian parts of Christianity are true , if i look back on my life ive made other people and other animals suffer , from burning ants with bleach to being the class bully and beating people up just for having ginger hair or for being fat or wearing glasses , ive been a horrible glutenous person and now at 32 i think im going to pay for it .i dont know if its indoctrination making me feel like this or i am actually realizing the bad person ive been , i kind of starting to believe i am a bad person and i should of believed in a god , i feel like im due , torture and punishment , ive lived a life of bliss from about 12 years old , ive been able to take whatever drug ive wanted whenever ive wanted , i earn more than most people do in a month in one single night , ive fucked sluts and snorted powder every night for years , i now feel like im going to die , i have this test coming up , im shitting blood and i yhink its all gonna catch up with me now
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If you think you deserve eternal damnation for anything you've done, you probably do. Me personally, I can't think of anything that would justify an eternal punishment, not even the worst humanity has to offer, Hitler, Stalin, etc., I mean, eventually there would come a point where the amount of punishment equalled the amount of pain and suffering they caused, to go beyond that point is no longer justice but torture, so it seems there is a paradox there, as I don't believe torture is a method an omnibenevolent supreme being that is perfect in every way would utilize. If this is the case, a place like Hell can't exist as is currently accepted in the Abrahamic religions.

You think a little bit harder on this stuff and you come up with similar issues all throughout the texts.

This is your fear talking. Your irrational side, emotional side. Deep down, you know that, you identified it yourself. What you should be thinking about is how well you've taken care of your body throughout your life and specifically in the last 5-10 years. Have you eaten well, gotten enough exercise? I can guarantee you your medical issues stem from biological issues, not spiritual ones. It's natural to be scared of something medical, especially if it seems like it could be something serious. It's like an STD test, you're nervous as fuck until you read your results, even if you know you've played it safe since the last one. It's the uncertainty that's scary.

So there you go man, that's my two cents, get drunk and don't worry about this stuff til your doctor calls you, it won't help, you'll just be stressed out and anxious. Eat that fiber.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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Man, Sativa, so fucking sorry to hear about your medical trouble. The worst you've mentioned is some minor bullying, that doesn't sound like it deserves a year in prison, much less eternal damnation or death. Sure, you've had quite the edge on this forum, but who hasn't? I usually enjoy your posts and your perspective. Pad's right, you're just freaking out and it's natural to be irrational at this time. Please let us know the news and how things progress...
 
OldGrowth420

OldGrowth420

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Hey bro, everything is going to be okay.
Get right with God and you won't have to worry about a thing.

Here is a link to begin your journey, feel free to ask me anything you need to know. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John 1&version=NIV
Read the book of John it's twenty one chapters, in it lies just about everything you need to know.

God has been waiting for you to come to Him and accepts you just as you are.

[SUP]John 3: 16-21

16 [/SUP]For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. [SUP]19 [/SUP]This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. [SUP]21 [/SUP]But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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OldGrowth420 said:
Hey Bro, everything is going to be okay.
Get right with God and you won't have to worry about a thing.

Here is a link to begin your journey, feel free to ask me anything you need to know.
Read the book of John it's twenty one chapters, in it lies just about everything you need to know.

God has been waiting for you to come to Him and accepts you just as you are.

[SUP]John 3: 16-21

16 [/SUP]For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. [SUP]19 [/SUP]This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. [SUP]21 [/SUP]But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
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This is bullshit.

The bible, the book of John, all bullshit.

You are using a vulnerable persons conditioning and fear against them in a moment of need for your own gain, that's despicable.
 
dbkick

dbkick

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hey, sorry to hear.
Just underwent that procedure myself thinking the same thing you are about cancer.
Was senseless worry.I think you'll find it the same .
Good luck and enjoy the fentanyl .
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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OldGrowth420 said:
Hey Bro, everything is going to be okay.
Get right with God and you won't have to worry about a thing.

Here is a link to begin your journey, feel free to ask me anything you need to know.
Read the book of John it's twenty one chapters, in it lies just about everything you need to know.

God has been waiting for you to come to Him and accepts you just as you are.

[SUP]John 3: 16-21

16 [/SUP]For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. [SUP]19 [/SUP]This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. [SUP]21 [/SUP]But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
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This is the day when you crossed the line from "Crazy person" to "predatory crazy person". Seriously, seek help. Ignore this guy^ man. You'll be right as rain in no time. It's almost never as bad as you think it is.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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Padawanbater2 said:
This is bullshit.

The bible, the book of John, all bullshit.

You are using a vulnerable persons conditioning and fear against them in a moment of need for your own gain, that's despicable.
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It seems the entire religion's recruitment is based on exactly the action you describe. It seems most people find jesus when they are at their most desperate and afraid and their life is upside down, i.e. serving a prison sentence, after a tragedy, after a loved one dies, etc.. You don't often hear about someone turning to religion when one's life is going well and they're making the right choices. I think the method that OG is using just seems shocking because it's directed at someone we know, but really, it's business as usual...
 
OldGrowth420

OldGrowth420

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This guy came into my thread about going to heaven and started asking me these questions for him and his daughter, I'm clearly trying to help him and in no way is this wrong.

Seriously, it's frightening to me to see that you think that spreading the truth about God is some king of predatory action.

Don't let these people lead you astray Sativa
 
OldGrowth420

OldGrowth420

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OldGrowth420 said:
Hey Bro, everything is going to be okay.
Get right with God and you won't have to worry about a thing.

Here is a link to begin your journey, feel free to ask me anything you need to know.
Read the book of John it's twenty one chapters, in it lies just about everything you need to know.

God has been waiting for you to come to Him and accepts you just as you are.

[SUP]John 3: 16-21

16 [/SUP]For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. [SUP]18 [/SUP]Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. [SUP]19 [/SUP]This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. [SUP]21 [/SUP]But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
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1itsme

1itsme

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OldGrowth420 said:
This guy came into my thread about going to heaven and started asking me these questions for him and his daughter, I'm clearly trying to help him and in no way is this wrong.

Seriously, it's frightening to me to see that you think that spreading the truth about God is some king of predatory action.

Don't let these people lead you astray Sativa
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how is using someones fear as an opportunity to further your own agenda not preditory?
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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OldGrowth420 said:
Stop trying to drag everyone else down into hell.
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There are only two billion christians, that means five billion non-christians on the planet. I'm not great at math, but the odds are that you have a much better chance of being wrong (and perhaps cast into a non-christian hell) than you do of being right. Not great odds...
 
eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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...I don't think OG is taking advantage. It's what he does, it's how he feels to respond to Sat. I don't quote scripture but I don't see anything wrong with it either. It's his interpretation of what his life wants him to do at (in?) the moment.

...Sat, I think you'll be ok. Those nervous medical moments usually bring about a sense of "uh-oh, what have I done?". Don't fight that, actually, embrace that and listen to it. It's a cue to change (imho).
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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Any religion that promotes a punishing entity at the top (no way they are god) is proof that they are scams

Only you can free yourself of the religious programming. If 1000 lemmings jump off a cliff is no reason for you to

There are any number of reasons for blood in stool, karma is not one of them

Stop giving away your personal power and research what the probable causes are and eliminate them from your life/diet/environment...

Listen about 40 minutes in religions exposed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2X4ZnKF7w14
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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Haha, nope. Way to use scripture to try and paint everyone as a sinner who's just afraid of god's light. If that's not predatory and manipulative, I don't know what is.

Unfortunately, I did the Christian thing until I was 16. I've experienced it first hand and read the bible over and over. It makes no sense, it contradicts itself, and you folks that believe it don't read it as a whole work. You treat it as something to pick and choose through, while maintaining it is infallible. The fact is that you espouse a religion that's only a step better than Islam in most respects. Honestly, I decided I'd want nothing to do with your god; he's not just, benevolent, or loving.
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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eye exaggerate said:
...I don't think OG is taking advantage. It's what he does, it's how he feels to respond to Sat. I don't quote scripture but I don't see anything wrong with it either. It's his interpretation of what his life wants him to do at (in?) the moment.

...Sat, I think you'll be ok. Those nervous medical moments usually bring about a sense of "uh-oh, what have I done?". Don't fight that, actually, embrace that and listen to it. It's a cue to change (imho).
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If someone is in a position where they feel they are going to die; it is the most reprehensible thing I can think of to play on their emotions to up conversion rates.
 
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