I Don't Give A **** About You Sellers...

mipbar

Well-Known Member
..who make a living from selling marijuana. Legalizing hurts your business, so maybe you'll have to get a real job, but I think most of us don't give a damn about your lazy a$$es and want marijuana to be legalized so we can stop being threatened with incarceration, not to mention all the other benefits.
 

The Ruiner

Well-Known Member
..who make a living from selling marijuana. Legalizing hurts your business, so maybe you'll have to get a real job, but I think most of us don't give a damn about your lazy a$$es and want marijuana to be legalized so we can stop being threatened with incarceration, not to mention all the other benefits.
Umm... I don't sell, but I am totally opposed to 19. It's got a lot of problems, and in the end it will end up doing way more harm than good IMO. If you are worried about incarceration then maybe you should look into getting a card, or not selling, or not carrying more than an ounce, or stop carrying your gun
(if you have one). because you can't get arrested for having weed, its a fine...$100.

I think you just sound stressed man, check out the CCHHI. It's a way better bill coming in 2012. Link below.

http://www.youthfederation.com/
 

mipbar

Well-Known Member
Umm... I don't sell, but I am totally opposed to 19. It's got a lot of problems, and in the end it will end up doing way more harm than good IMO. If you are worried about incarceration then maybe you should look into getting a card, or not selling, or not carrying more than an ounce, or stop carrying your gun
(if you have one). because you can't get arrested for having weed, its a fine...$100.

I think you just sound stressed man, check out the CCHHI. It's a way better bill coming in 2012. Link below.

http://www.youthfederation.com/
Try to troll a little and I get a reasonable well-thought answer. Thanks! Sellers on the side of the morons who've kept it illegal for all these years irritate me though. I want to go get a Dairy Queen Rasberry Truffle Blizzard and smoke a bowl, but can't because I may have a drug test for a job next week :) So, yes, I'm irritated on that count too :) I'm not in CA either... So, please do us a favor and summarize the benefits between both bills and why one is better ? Thanks
 

Howard Stern

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..who make a living from selling marijuana. Legalizing hurts your business, so maybe you'll have to get a real job, but I think most of us don't give a damn about your lazy a$$es and want marijuana to be legalized so we can stop being threatened with incarceration, not to mention all the other benefits.
:finger: You live in cali and you don't have a card? Who is lazy now? Getting a card down there is like snaping your fingers. And if you had a card you could grow more than you could with it being leagal so you seem to be the lazy one. :roll:
 

bajafox

Well-Known Member
Try to troll a little and I get a reasonable well-thought answer. Thanks! Sellers on the side of the morons who've kept it illegal for all these years irritate me though. I want to go get a Dairy Queen Rasberry Truffle Blizzard and smoke a bowl, but can't because I may have a drug test for a job next week :) So, yes, I'm irritated on that count too :) I'm not in CA either... So, please do us a favor and summarize the benefits between both bills and why one is better ? Thanks
Just because we legalize marijuana here in California does not mean it is going to exempt you (well not you because you're not from here) from a drug test at any company. They still have the right to not employ anyone who fails a drug test. Until it's decriminalized federally, companies still have the right to hire or fire you for marijuana.

BTW, if you've done any research, legalizing will not hurt anyone who sells marijuana for a living just because it is legalized...if that's true I would like to see your resources.
 

Howard Stern

Well-Known Member
Dude is probably 15 or something so he can't get one
Yeah you are probably right, I was just waiting to see a thread that was retarded so I could use this one :finger: LOL No worries though I will keep on growing and if I were in cali I would vote no. This guy wants big business and gov to make money on him when buying substandard weed from the local 7-11.
 

Smucker G

Active Member
Im usually not the suspicious type but I dont think your really Howard Stern. And that is a very evel amount of posts you got there. Are you the anti-christ? Maybe you are really HS?
 

mipbar

Well-Known Member
:finger: You live in cali and you don't have a card? Who is lazy now? Getting a card down there is like snaping your fingers. And if you had a card you could grow more than you could with it being leagal so you seem to be the lazy one. :roll:
Re-read my post and notice the word 'not' It's 3 letters, and it means NOT. And legalizing anywhere is the first step to legalizing everywhere. This board seems to have the biggest morons, who you can tell are obvious massive potheads, and walking ads for why it's criminalized to begin with. Snapping is spelled "SNAPPING" and legal is spelled "LEGAL" Put down your bong and pick up a textbook please. I even said in my last post I was trolling and still dumbasses post. LOL. You win the prize! But, seriously, although this board does have some seriously stupid people, it also has some intelligent, thoughtful people as well. You are not the latter. Again, the word NOT, make that textbook a dictionary.
 

Howard Stern

Well-Known Member
Im usually not the suspicious type but I dont think your really Howard Stern. And that is a very evel amount of posts you got there. Are you the anti-christ? Maybe you are really HS?
Hey don't try to highjack this great thread! LOL And if I was the real HS I wouldn't be growing weed! I would be with Beth all day long!
 

Needofweed

Active Member
I dont sell weed but im voting NO. Why do people have to be drug dealers just cause thier voting No.
Like I siad before if voting no make a person a drug dealer, does voting yes make a person a drug addict?
 

Needofweed

Active Member
Who ever said prop19 is our only chance to go legal is a liar




PROPOSED WORDING AS OF 05/13/2010:
California Cannabis Hemp & Health Initiative 2012

California Cannabis Hemp & Health Initiative 2012​

AN ACT TO AMEND THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE OF CALIFORNIA:


I. Add Section 11362.6 to the Health and Safety Code of California, any laws or policies to the contrary notwithstanding:​


1. No person, individual, or corporate entity shall be arrested or prosecuted, be denied any right or privilege, nor be subject to any criminal or civil penalties for the possession, cultivation, transportation, distribution, or consumption of cannabis hemp marijuana, including:​


(a) Cannabis hemp industrial products.
(b) Cannabis hemp medicinal preparations.
(c) Cannabis hemp nutritional products.
(c) Cannabis hemp religious and spiritual products.
(d) Cannabis hemp recreational and euphoric use and products.
2. Definition of terms:


(a) The terms "cannabis hemp" and “cannabis hemp marijuana” mean the natural, non-genetically modified plant hemp, cannabis, marihuana, marijuana, cannabis sativa L, cannabis Americana, cannabis chinensis, cannabis indica, cannabis ruderalis, cannabis sativa, or any variety of cannabis, including any derivative, concentrate, extract, flower, leaf, particle, preparation, resin, root, salt, seed, stalk, stem, or any product thereof.
(b) The term "cannabis hemp industrial products" means all products made from cannabis hemp that are not designed or intended for human consumption, including, but not limited to: clothing, building materials, paper, fiber, fuel, lubricants, plastics, paint, seed for cultivation, animal feed, veterinary medicine, oil, or any other product that is not designed for internal human consumption; as well as cannabis hemp plants used for crop rotation, erosion control, pest control, weed control, or any other horticultural or environmental purposes, for example, the reversal of the Greenhouse Effect and toxic soil reclamation.
(c) The term "cannabis hemp medicinal preparations" means all products made from cannabis hemp that are designed, intended, or used for human consumption for the treatment of any human disease or condition, for pain relief, or for any healing purpose, including but not limited to the treatment or relief of: Alzheimer's and pre-Alzheimer's disease, stroke, arthritis, asthma, cramps, epilepsy, glaucoma, migraine, multiple sclerosis, nausea, premenstrual syndrome, side effects of cancer chemotherapy, fibromyalgia, sickle cell anemia, spasticity, spinal injury, stress, easement of post-traumatic stress disorder, Tourette syndrome, attention deficit disorder, immunodeficiency, wasting syndrome from AIDS or anorexia; use as an antibiotic, antibacterial, anti-viral, or anti-emetic; as a healing agent, or as an adjunct to any medical or herbal treatment. Mental conditions not limited to bipolar, depression, attention deficit disorder, or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, shall be conditions considered for medical use.
(d) The term "cannabis hemp nutritional products" means cannabis hemp for consumption by humans and animals as food, including but not limited to: seed, seed protein, seed oil, essential fatty acids, seed cake, dietary fiber, or any preparation or extract thereof.
(e) The term "cannabis hemp euphoric products" means cannabis hemp intended for personal recreational or religious use, other than cannabis hemp industrial products, cannabis hemp medicinal preparations, or cannabis hemp nutritional products.
(f) The term "personal use" means the internal consumption of cannabis hemp by people 21 years of age or older for any relaxational, meditative, religious, spiritual, recreational, or other purpose other than sale.
(g) The term "commercial production" means the production of cannabis hemp products for sale or profit under the conditions of these provisions.
3. Industrial cannabis hemp farmers, manufacturers, processors, and distributors shall not be subject to any special zoning requirement, licensing fee, or tax that is excessive, discriminatory, or prohibitive.
4. Cannabis hemp medicinal preparations are hereby restored to the list of available medicines in California. Licensed physicians shall not be penalized for, nor restricted from, prescribing or recommending cannabis hemp for medical purposes to any patient, regardless of age. No tax shall be applied to prescribed cannabis hemp medicinal preparations. Medical research shall be encouraged. No recommending physician shall be subject to any professional licensing review or hearing as a result of recommending or approving medical use of cannabis hemp marijuana.​

5. Personal use of cannabis hemp euphoric products.


(a) No permit, license, or tax shall be required for the non-commercial cultivation, transportation, distribution, or consumption of cannabis hemp.
(b) Testing for inactive and/or inert residual cannabis metabolites shall not be required for employment or insurance, nor be considered in determining employment, other impairment, or intoxication.
(c) When a person falls within the conditions of these exceptions, the offense laws do not apply and only the exception laws apply.
6. Use of cannabis hemp products for religious or spiritual purposes shall be considered an inalienable right; and shall be protected by the full force of the State and Federal Constitutions.
7. Commerce in cannabis hemp euphoric products shall be limited to adults, 21 years of age and older, and shall be regulated in a manner analogous to California's wine industry model. For the purpose of distinguishing personal from commercial production, 99 flowering female plants and 12 pounds of dried, cured cannabis hemp flowers, bud, not leaf, produced per adult, 21 years of age and older, per year shall be considered as being for personal use.
8. The manufacture, marketing, distribution, or sales between adults of equipment or accessories designed to assist in the planting, cultivation, harvesting, curing, processing, packaging, storage, analysis, consumption, or transportation of cannabis hemp plants, industrial cannabis hemp products, cannabis hemp medicinal preparations, cannabis hemp nutritional products, cannabis hemp euphoric products, or any cannabis hemp product shall not be prohibited.
9. No California law enforcement personnel or funds shall be used to assist or aid and abet in the enforcement of Federal cannabis hemp marijuana laws involving acts which are hereby no longer illegal in the State of California.
10. Any person who threatens the enjoyment of these provisions is guilty of a misdemeanor. The maximum penalties and fines of a misdemeanor may be imposed.
II. Repeal, delete, and expunge any and all existing statutory laws that conflict with the provisions of this initiative.


1. Enactment of this initiative shall include: amnesty, immediate release from prison, jail, parole, and probation, and clearing, expungement, and deletion of all criminal records for all persons currently charged with, or convicted of any non-violent cannabis hemp marijuana offenses included in this initiative which are hereby no longer illegal in the State of California. People who fall within this category that triggered an original sentence are included within this provision.
2. Within 60 days of the passage of this Act, the Attorney General shall develop and distribute a one-page application, providing for the destruction of all cannabis hemp marijuana criminal records in California for any such offense covered by this Act. Such forms shall be distributed to district and city attorneys and made available at all police departments in the State to persons hereby affected. Upon filing such form with any Superior Court and a payment of a fee of $10.00, the Court shall liberally construe these provisions to benefit the defendant in furtherance of the amnesty and dismissal provision of this section. Upon the Court's ruling under this provision the arrest record shall be set aside and be destroyed. Such persons may then truthfully state that they have never been arrested or convicted of any cannabis hemp marijuana related offense which is hereby no longer illegal in the State of California. This shall be deemed to be a finding of factual innocence under California Penal Code Section 851.8 et seq.
III. The legislature is authorized upon thorough investigation, to enact legislation using reasonable standards to:


1. License concessionary establishments to distribute cannabis hemp euphoric products in a manner analogous to California's wine industry model. Sufficient community outlets shall be licensed to provide reasonable commercial access to persons of legal age, so as to discourage and prevent the misuse of, and illicit traffic in, such products. Any license or permit fee required by the State for commercial production, distribution or use shall not exceed $1,000.00.
2. Place an excise tax on commercial sale of cannabis hemp euphoric products, analogous to California's wine industry model, so long as no excise tax or combination of excise taxes shall exceed $10.00 per ounce.
3. Determine an acceptable and uniform standard of impairment based on performance testing, to restrict persons impaired by cannabis hemp euphoric products from operating a motor vehicle or heavy machinery, or otherwise engaging in conduct that may affect public safety.
4. Regulate the personal use of cannabis hemp euphoric products in enclosed and/or restricted public places.
IV. Pursuant to the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, the people of California hereby repudiate and challenge Federal cannabis hemp marijuana prohibitions that conflict with this act.
V. Severability: If any provision of this Act, or the application of any such provision to any person or circumstance, shall be held invalid by any court, the remainder of this Act, to the extent it can be given effect, or the application of such provisions to persons or circumstances other than those as to which it is held invalid, shall not be affected thereby, and to this end the provisions of this Act are severable.
VI. Construction: If any rival or conflicting initiative regulating any matter addressed by this act receives the higher affirmative vote, then all non-conflicting parts shall become operative.
VII. Purpose of Act: This Act is an exercise of the police powers of the State for the protection of the safety, welfare, health, and peace of the people and the environment of the State, to protect the industrial and medicinal uses of cannabis hemp, to eliminate the unlicensed and unlawful cultivation, selling, and dispensing of cannabis hemp; and to encourage temperance in the consumption of cannabis hemp euphoric products. It is hereby declared that the subject matter of this Act involves, in the highest degree, the ecological, economic, social, and moral well-being and safety of the State and of all its people. All provisions of this Act shall be liberally construed for the accomplishment of these purposes: to respect human rights, to promote tolerance, and to end cannabis hemp prohibition.
Eddy Lepp​

George Clayton Johnson​

 

tc1

Well-Known Member
:finger: You live in cali and you don't have a card? Who is lazy now? Getting a card down there is like snaping your fingers. And if you had a card you could grow more than you could with it being leagal so you seem to be the lazy one. :roll:

So you're telling people to lie to their doctor in order to be protected under Prop 215?

That's great and all but there's a problem ...


States aren't stupid and they know full well the medical marijuana programs are being abused. Which is why you're seeing stricter amendments being added to medical marijuana intiatves. State after state is saying "We don't want a medical marijuana program if it ends up like California or Colorado". Mark my words ... eventually medical marijuana programs with be monitored just as tightly and strict as other medical related programs.


So while some of you choose to hide behind Prop 215 and choose to vote no on Prop 19 .... don't get mad when states start telling you that you have to obtain your recommendation at a state certified medical facility and that you will no longer be able to choose where you get your "medication". Because that is EXACTLY what's starting to come into fruition.

The days of "wild wild west" medical marijuana programs are close to being over.


You have two choices ....

Hide behind a lie and watch as the government pulls the reigns down on medical marijuana programs, making it harder to obtain and making it a taller mountain to climb for ANY form of legalization.

-or-

Fight for your right to use marijuana for ANY reason provided you do so responsibly. Medicinally, spiritually, or recreationally.
 

veggiegardener

Well-Known Member
So you're telling people to lie to their doctor in order to be protected under Prop 215?

That's great and all but there's a problem ...


States aren't stupid and they know full well the medical marijuana programs are being abused. Which is why you're seeing stricter amendments being added to medical marijuana intiatves. State after state is saying "We don't want a medical marijuana program if it ends up like California or Colorado". Mark my words ... eventually medical marijuana programs with be monitored just as tightly and strict as other medical related programs.


So while some of you choose to hide behind Prop 215 and choose to vote no on Prop 19 .... don't get mad when states start telling you that you have to obtain your recommendation at a state certified medical facility and that you will no longer be able to choose where you get your "medication". Because that is EXACTLY what's starting to come into fruition.

The days of "wild wild west" medical marijuana programs are close to being over.


You have two choices ....

Hide behind a lie and watch as the government pulls the reigns down on medical marijuana programs, making it harder to obtain and making it a taller mountain to climb for ANY form of legalization.

-or-

Fight for your right to use marijuana for ANY reason provided you do so responsibly. Medicinally, spiritually, or recreationally.
There's a lot of stupid or greed in this thread.

Dr. Tom O'Connell was my first recommending physician.

This was nearly a decade ago.

At that time he had been doing an informal study of "why" people smoke weed. After interviewing about 7000 users, he concluded that anyone who uses Cannabis daily, "needs", in a medical sense, to smoke Cannabis daily.

His take is that modern life is causing a break up of the nurturing required for healthy emotional development. He strongly believes that anyone who wants a recommendation, needs a recommendation.

http://cannadoc.org/node/64

This guy has done his homework.

Prop 19 cannot improve on our current situation.

As mentioned, the only people without recommendations are those who don't understand what Cannabis does for those who use it.

Stupid people.

The Assembly can't legislate restrictions on the current laws regarding MMJ. 215 is a proposition and can only be changed with another proposition.

Vote for 19 if you like, but if it passes, I'll bet you stop posting here, due to being on record supporting a bill that put YOU in jail.

I don't know how many incorporated cities there are in California, but if 19 passes, every one of those cities and counties will be writing there own set of restrictions and tax codes for Cannabis.

I suggest you move to Rancho Cordova. Growing for personal use, within your 25 square foot space will cost you $600 per sq. ft. $15,000, ANNUALLY.

Do you think your city council will be less greedy?
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
..who make a living from selling marijuana. Legalizing hurts your business, so maybe you'll have to get a real job, but I think most of us don't give a damn about your lazy a$$es and want marijuana to be legalized so we can stop being threatened with incarceration, not to mention all the other benefits.

dead beat pothead, where's my fucking fries? :cuss:

lol
:)
 
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