I can not figure out whats wrong with my plant (+Rep for good advice)

jr22hockey

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Mostly everything is going well. I have been watering with first a little bit of spring water to wash out the old nutrients, then I water with 1 gallon of water, full dose of iguana juice grow (3 tsp/gallon), 3/4 dose of Advanced Nutrients Overdrive (a little under 2 tsp/gallon), a spoonful of Grandma's unsulphured molasses, and API aquarium PH up.

This plant is Kushberry X skunk. It's main cola is HUge and thick but the fan leaves keep on dying from the bottom up as seen in the pictures.

What is this????

(last pic is of my NL X skunk)
 

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Antigen

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It looks like you are overfertilizing and your pH is off. You should not be using a Grow fertilizer (the Iguana Juice) or ANY fertilizer with a high Nitrogen content during the flowering phase. You don't want much nitrogen during that phase, just a small amount. You can tell they are getting too much nitrogen because of how dark green they are this far into flowering. Also the top dark green leaves are showing the "downward claw", another sign of too much N. You need to stop using that fert and start using a Bloom fert. Your leaves look like a Phosphorous deficiency, which could be due to you not using a bloom fert and/or the pH being off.

How many weeks have you been at 12/12? Also how long does the strain take to finish, if you know? Your fan leaves should be naturally turning yellow, then brown, then falling off as the plant uses their energy to produce buds. Do not cut them off just because they look bad, the plant needs their energy and you should leave them until they fall off or come off with very gentle pulling.

You probably have a whole bunch of acid salts built up in your soil that need to be removed via a flush. You need to run at least 3X as much water as the amount of soil you have through to wash out the acid salts. So if you have a 3 gallon pot, you need to flush with 9 gallons of correctly pH'd water (6.5-6.8, err on the high side if you can't measure that precisely). If you have never flushed these plants since they have been in this soil, you might need to use even more water than that. You should test the pH of your runoff water (the water that comes out the drainholes) periodically during the flush to see if the pH is going up. The acid salts are mostly near the top of the soil so it could take a LOT of water to push them all the way down to the bottom and out the drainholes.

On the last gallon of your flush, add 1/2 str nutes since flushing will remove nutrients as well. Just don't add back any nutes with a high Nitrogen content, you need to start getting that N out of your plant before harvest time. If I were you I would use a final flush solution, like Final Phase or Clearex. These products have chealates which will bind to all the chemical ferts and wash them out of your plant. I just used it on my latest grow and I am very impressed with how clean tasting the smoke is. You want to use this about 7-10 days before you are going to harvest. If you're interested you can google about it for more info, and I can tell you how I applied it in dirt since the only instructions I could find were for hydro setups. Just let me know.
 

heathaa

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well from the looks of it your in your 5 or 6 week flowering. its normal for fan leaves to die off comming up on harvest. they start at the bottom and work their way up. i would stop giving it nutes and just the mollasses then flush it two weeks before harvest and just regular water after the flush. good luck
 

jr22hockey

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K well I think I'm going to water one more time but use less iguana juice and more Overdrive, then flush it for the last 2 weeks. Thanks for the help guys
 

jrinlv

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I think the overdrive is what maybe showing signs of this burn. I think it says to raise the lights on the bottle right, Let me look it up and I'll get back to you, a how far are they into flower again? JR
 

jr22hockey

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I think the overdrive is what maybe showing signs of this burn. I think it says to raise the lights on the bottle right, Let me look it up and I'll get back to you, a how far are they into flower again? JR
It's not the Overdrive. This problem has been developing for a while. Long before I started using the overdrive 2 waterings ago. In fact, this overdrive stuff is great. My plants love it. When I started using it, the bud started getting taller and fatter at a much faster rate
 

jr22hockey

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It looks like you are overfertilizing and your pH is off. You should not be using a Grow fertilizer (the Iguana Juice) or ANY fertilizer with a high Nitrogen content during the flowering phase. You don't want much nitrogen during that phase, just a small amount. You can tell they are getting too much nitrogen because of how dark green they are this far into flowering. Also the top dark green leaves are showing the "downward claw", another sign of too much N. You need to stop using that fert and start using a Bloom fert. Your leaves look like a Phosphorous deficiency, which could be due to you not using a bloom fert and/or the pH being off.

How many weeks have you been at 12/12? Also how long does the strain take to finish, if you know? Your fan leaves should be naturally turning yellow, then brown, then falling off as the plant uses their energy to produce buds. Do not cut them off just because they look bad, the plant needs their energy and you should leave them until they fall off or come off with very gentle pulling.

You probably have a whole bunch of acid salts built up in your soil that need to be removed via a flush. You need to run at least 3X as much water as the amount of soil you have through to wash out the acid salts. So if you have a 3 gallon pot, you need to flush with 9 gallons of correctly pH'd water (6.5-6.8, err on the high side if you can't measure that precisely). If you have never flushed these plants since they have been in this soil, you might need to use even more water than that. You should test the pH of your runoff water (the water that comes out the drainholes) periodically during the flush to see if the pH is going up. The acid salts are mostly near the top of the soil so it could take a LOT of water to push them all the way down to the bottom and out the drainholes.

On the last gallon of your flush, add 1/2 str nutes since flushing will remove nutrients as well. Just don't add back any nutes with a high Nitrogen content, you need to start getting that N out of your plant before harvest time. If I were you I would use a final flush solution, like Final Phase or Clearex. These products have chealates which will bind to all the chemical ferts and wash them out of your plant. I just used it on my latest grow and I am very impressed with how clean tasting the smoke is. You want to use this about 7-10 days before you are going to harvest. If you're interested you can google about it for more info, and I can tell you how I applied it in dirt since the only instructions I could find were for hydro setups. Just let me know.
I was high when I started this thread and I meant to say "Iguana juice Bloom" when I said "Iguana Juice grow". I have been using a full dosage of it now for almost every watering in flower except for a flush 2 weeks ago and an occasional distilled watering. I know my PH was too low before because I wasn't adjusting my watering PH but for 2 weeks now I've been PHing it correctly to be 6.4-7.0. The Overdrive which I just started adding in the mix caused the plants to start really budding again.
I think next watering I am going to water with half a dose of Iguana bloom, a 1 1/4 dose of overdrive, and a tablespoon of molasses (and PH up). The watering after that will be plain old water. Watering after that I will flush. Then water with water for the rest(waterings are every 3-4 days)




What do you think of this plan?
 

treeburner

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I was high when I started this thread and I meant to say "Iguana juice Bloom" when I said "Iguana Juice grow". I have been using a full dosage of it now for almost every watering in flower except for a flush 2 weeks ago and an occasional distilled watering. I know my PH was too low before because I wasn't adjusting my watering PH but for 2 weeks now I've been PHing it correctly to be 6.4-7.0. The Overdrive which I just started adding in the mix caused the plants to start really budding again.
I think next watering I am going to water with half a dose of Iguana bloom, a 1 1/4 dose of overdrive, and a tablespoon of molasses (and PH up). The watering after that will be plain old water. Watering after that I will flush. Then water with water for the rest(waterings are every 3-4 days)

What do you think of this plan?

I think this is sounding pretty good, but I'm one of those people who just isn't convinced that anyone should be throwing molasses on their grow. Yeah, I know it's more natural or whatever, but it just seems to invite trouble more than it helps the plants grow - IMHO.

I would find something else like Big Bud to help out your buds, though some say that Bud Candy is all they need. I think you can probably go either way, but Bid Bug is a favorite of mine for the results it sounds like you want.

And it's already an AN product, so it's going to fit in right with the Iguana (which I haven't used in a while - thanks for reminding me about that...)

:bigjoint:
 
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