I am paying far to much for power,what can i do to pay less?

a senile fungus said:

Grow vertically.

For me in a 4'x8' space horizontal light placement of my 2 bulbs will get me 32ft² while vertical bulb placement and growing will allow me more like 120ft². This is in a 4'x8'x6.5' space. I triple my grow area by going vertical, you should look into it...

It won't save you on any power, but you can triple your square footage easily, and with those extra yields you can more easily justify your power expenditure.

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Hey sensil...any chance at getting a look at your vertical grow..I'm very interested in growing vert...what size bulbs are you running.....vertical growing is all alien to me....happy growing

scarecrow77 said:

Hey sensil...any chance at getting a look at your vertical grow..I'm very interested in growing vert...what size bulbs are you running.....vertical growing is all alien to me....happy growing

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DST on club 600 n bb stuff grows vert so keep an eye on his grows

a senile fungus said:

Grow vertically.

For me in a 4'x8' space horizontal light placement of my 2 bulbs will get me 32ft² while vertical bulb placement and growing will allow me more like 120ft². This is in a 4'x8'x6.5' space. I triple my grow area by going vertical, you should look into it...

It won't save you on any power, but you can triple your square footage easily, and with those extra yields you can more easily justify your power expenditure.

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I have actually converted half of my space to vertical.
8 wire racks with 4 shelfs each, 18 gal tubs on each shelf all arranged in a football shape,lightrail with 6x600s traveling the length of the football.I love how easy it is to work in, i have a bad back and watering/working is a breeze ,and am planning to convert the other half soon...vertical rules...

MightyMike530 said:

Yeah, yeah, my bad, where are the pics? 9.8KW is still a shit ton of light, I bet your grow is badass, lets see your set up if you dont mind!

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I have some pics in the vert section here,if you can't find em i can post one for you later tonight or tomorow. My camera sux but you will get the jist.

headbandrocker said:

I have some pics in the vert section here,if you can't find em i can post one for you later tonight or tomorow. My camera sux but you will get the jist.

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Ok yeah, I have seen you pics already, you've definitely got a sick grow going. Nice work!

I did a journal a while back on flowering in a 6/12 light dark cycle ,If I can't get Pge to play ball then I may try that again...less weight but great product at the end with a good savings.

I just checked on the pge website and it says i can save the most with the electric vehicle plan. This would save me 10k+ per year time of use only saves me 400-1k per year...Go figure,if this is the only way to play ball,i will tuck in my pride

R3l@X said:

DST on club 600 n bb stuff grows vert so keep an eye on his grows

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Thanks bud..i.l do that..

SnapsProvolone said:

And I was used to paying 7 cents a kwh back in Mo. Now doing 20 cents here in Co but it's legal. Sucks but better to pay it than steal it imo.

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My local rate has DROPPED from 0.14/kw/h to 0.11/kw/h. They have off peak billing plan at 0.07/kw/h, but on-peak rate rises to 0.22/kw/h. 70% of my consumption is on peak, so off-peak billing would not be cheaper.

Red1966 said:

My local rate has DROPPED from 0.14/kw/h to 0.11/kw/h. They have off peak billing plan at 0.07/kw/h, but on-peak rate rises to 0.22/kw/h. 70% of my consumption is on peak, so off-peak billing would not be cheaper.

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Schweet...

SnapsProvolone said:

Schweet...

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Yes, a very pleasant surprise.

Red1966 said:

My local rate has DROPPED from 0.14/kw/h to 0.11/kw/h.

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thanks, obama.

headbandrocker said:

I did a journal a while back on flowering in a 6/12 light dark cycle ,If I can't get Pge to play ball then I may try that again...less weight but great product at the end with a good savings.

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So, did the flowering finish quicker? I didn't realize you had a journal(I'll check it out later), and I referred to a High Times article I had read years back, in a thread in the indoor forum,
Did you get the idea from HT?

im not understanding this electric vehicle plan. can some one explain?

Aeroknow said:

So, did the flowering finish quicker? I didn't realize you had a journal(I'll check it out later), and I referred to a High Times article I had read years back, in a thread in the indoor forum,
Did you get the idea from HT?

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A little off topic, but did you know the pic in your avatar is the subject of a lawsuit?

Red1966 said:

A little off topic, but did you know the pic in your avatar is the subject of a lawsuit?

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Nope, but i'm gonna change it back to my boy REX again anyways. Thx man

scarecrow77 said:

Hey sensil...any chance at getting a look at your vertical grow..I'm very interested in growing vert...what size bulbs are you running.....vertical growing is all alien to me....happy growing

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Mine is based from this.



There are two lights, attached to a pulley system that transfers the horizontal motion of the light mover into vertical motion for both bulbs, almost like a yo-yo, they go up and down.



Search wall of weed from icmag.

These pics I believe are 400w HPS and he later upgraded to 600w HPS.

I like these cdm lights better ... http://advancedtechlighting.com/cdmmw.htm


The details behind the massive increase of space is using the walls instead of floor space. So instead of 8x4 area I'm using (2) 8x5 and (2) 4x5 spaces. My height is 6.5ft so about 5ft of actual plant space...

Afterthought: also the bulbs/ballast I linked is 315w cdm. That'll also save on power, not to mention the reduced heat output from the bulb as well.

a mongo frog said:

im not understanding this electric vehicle plan. can some one explain?

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You get a huge break on Pge if you own an electro vehicle...the savings is really worth leasing one... You get a car and still save big..

Aeroknow said:

So, did the flowering finish quicker? I didn't realize you had a journal(I'll check it out later), and I referred to a High Times article I had read years back, in a thread in the indoor forum,
Did you get the idea from HT?

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Years ago my friend cleared out his storage and gave me his old back in the day grow gear he'd been storing ,with all the junk came a bunch of resources he printed out,and on one of em was 1 sentence about how the author heard about flowering 18 hr days 6/12 ... So I tried it.
Result was less meds but great qual faster... Plants seemed to like it?! The yield wasn't great at all but that was most likely due to the shitty conditions I provided ...
It's worth trying and I heard can be done in the first few weeks of flower to stop stretch aswell but I haven't tried that.

headbandrocker said:

Years ago my friend cleared out his storage and gave me his old back in the day grow gear he'd been storing ,with all the junk came a bunch of resources he printed out,and on one of em was 1 sentence about how the author heard about flowering 18 hr days 6/12 ... So I tried it.
Result was less meds but great qual faster... Plants seemed to like it?! The yield wasn't great at all but that was most likely due to the shitty conditions I provided ...
It's worth trying and I heard can be done in the first few weeks of flower to stop stretch aswell but I haven't tried that.

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Interesting. But, Yup! It was in a High Times many years ago. Wish I still had it to share with ya