I am paying far to much for power,what can i do to pay less?

headbandrocker

headbandrocker

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I have a residential property and I am interested in ways to lower my pge bill,right now im being raped by pge and want to figure out if there is a program or some other way to drastically reduce my monthly bill.(besides cfl and led lol)
I have heard of agricultural meters,commercial rates,and medical baseline and even getting first tier electric prices by getting an electric vehicle.
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Pretty sure my usage puts me outside of the care program,it was nice while it lasted but now im payin full price for power and need to solve this dilema soon.
What can i do to save money with the power co?
 
headbandrocker

headbandrocker

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Im running 9800 watts not including my 24kbtu ac and my fans run 24/7 I havent really ever put those on a timer but I am interested in saving atleast 600-1000 a month,to make it worth it for me.
Snaps-what kind of savings do you get from TOU discount?
 
a senile fungus

a senile fungus

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headbandrocker said:
Im running 9800 watts not including my 24kbtu ac and my fans run 24/7 I havent really ever put those on a timer but I am interested in saving atleast 600-1000 a month,to make it worth it for me.
Snaps-what kind of savings do you get from TOU discount?
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It depends on what your provider usually charges per kWh and what the differential is between day and night.

Like he said every provider is different.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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headbandrocker said:
Im running 9800 watts not including my 24kbtu ac and my fans run 24/7 I havent really ever put those on a timer but I am interested in saving atleast 600-1000 a month,to make it worth it for me.
Snaps-what kind of savings do you get from TOU discount?
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Run less wattage to pay less that's a lot of power man your gonna have to pay for it one way or another.
 
ElfoodStampo

ElfoodStampo

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headbandrocker said:
I have a residential property and I am interested in ways to lower my pge bill,right now im being raped by pge and want to figure out if there is a program or some other way to drastically reduce my monthly bill.(besides cfl and led lol)
I have heard of agricultural meters,commercial rates,and medical baseline and even getting first tier electric prices by getting an electric vehicle.
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Pretty sure my usage puts me outside of the care program,it was nice while it lasted but now im payin full price for power and need to solve this dilema soon.
What can i do to save money with the power co?
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yea in a hypothetical, not reailty because it's illegal, but I would build a relay breaker that you wire in-line with your power coming into the house, split the power and run a *free* line where ever you want as long as the breaker is close to the original power main. wire the relay so that it's normally closed. have it powered by a breaker in you electrical box so when the company comes to check for ground readings and they pull your meeter, poof, the line you split stops drawing power and is invisible. In my fantasy world the electric company makes enough money that it never matters by the time I wake up..
 
Hydroburn

Hydroburn

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long term you could supplement your own electricity with solar panels or whatever.

stealing power is illegal, but we are all breaking the law here so who cares... the real issue with stealing power is getting caught.
 
M

mainliner

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ElfoodStampo said:
yea in a hypothetical, not reailty because it's illegal, but I would build a relay breaker that you wire in-line with your power coming into the house, split the power and run a *free* line where ever you want as long as the breaker is close to the original power main. wire the relay so that it's normally closed. have it powered by a breaker in you electrical box so when the company comes to check for ground readings and they pull your meeter, poof, the line you split stops drawing power and is invisible. In my fantasy world the electric company makes enough money that it never matters by the time I wake up..
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done the bypass thing the electric companys monitor everything all the spikes and fluctutioms in the readings , there clever like that, it took them a day to get me,, ? Isn't a petrol electric genorator cheaper than elecrtric ?? I don't know
 
waterdawg

waterdawg

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XXVII St. said:
Bypass that shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
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I know its way different up here. If we r caught growing and stealing power this is what could happen......first it is classed as a commercial grow op. They will try to seize the house, then you go to jail! Any grow that is 5 or more plants is mandatory 6 months.......Canada has harsher penalties than most States now, oh and you'll probably get another 6 months for the theft thing. Any whooo, I did try as an experiment, running my lights for a shorter period but staggered once. It worked well for keeping plants in veg but can't recall if quantity suffered, probably as I did it once lol. I think lots of commercial flower growers use it to keep costs in check. Other than that I run T5's for veg and supplement a 600 with them as well. Run all my lights at off peak. And move outdoors when weather allows. Good luck, electric bills are a bitch here as well, with the highest prices in North America I believe (peak rate .14 kwh) not to mention a whole bunch of extra bogus charges and tax, its around .17 kwh
 
waterdawg

waterdawg

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ElfoodStampo said:
yea in a hypothetical, not reailty because it's illegal, but I would build a relay breaker that you wire in-line with your power coming into the house, split the power and run a *free* line where ever you want as long as the breaker is close to the original power main. wire the relay so that it's normally closed. have it powered by a breaker in you electrical box so when the company comes to check for ground readings and they pull your meeter, poof, the line you split stops drawing power and is invisible. In my fantasy world the electric company makes enough money that it never matters by the time I wake up..
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I can see some real bad things happening with that lol. Although if done properly (as properly as u can when stealing power lol), not a bad concept. Wonder what their capable of monitoring re: load draws on grid sections? I think it is just asking for a whole shit load of troubles though lol.:roll:
 
Maris

Maris

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:) My wild love went riding, she rode all the day,
she rode to the devil, and asked him to pay,
The devil was wiser, it's time to repent,
He asked her to give back, the money she spent,

wy wild love went riding, she rode to the sea,
she gathered together, some shell for her hair,
she rode and she rode on, she rode on for a while,
then stopped for an evening, and laid her head down,

she rode on the christmas, she rode to the farm,
she rode to the japan, and re-entered a town,
by this time the wheather, has changed one degree,
she asked for the people, to let her go free,

My wild love is crazy, she screams like a brid,
she moans like a cat, when she wants to be heard,
My wild love went riding, she road for an hour,
she road and she rested, and then she road on,
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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headbandrocker said:
Im running 9800 watts not including my 24kbtu ac and my fans run 24/7 I havent really ever put those on a timer but I am interested in saving atleast 600-1000 a month,to make it worth it for me.
Snaps-what kind of savings do you get from TOU discount?
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damn, seems like you'd have some extra herb to sell to compensate for that humongous bill, do your math, and see if it's better to run a smaller op, with smaller yields. But lets face it, if you are using almost 100kw? You aren't doing it for personal consumption. I imagine you are growing at least a 150 plants or so. That being said, you may want to see if you could dial in your strains or space to compensate for the larger electric bill.
sorry I can't offer a good alternative to that, it's like asking for good gas mileage on a big block V8. Ya just can't do it.
 
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