Hydro Help!!!

HydroRed

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Your roots will be discolored from sitting in the air too long or from the color of your nutes. Nute strength shouldn't have much bearing on root color at all. If they are shocked, it will be present on the plant far before it shows in the roots. I dont think its anything to do with nutes, but the fact you left them out of the res for too long when you were adjusting your res.
Did they perk back up?
 

stezzy

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Your roots will be discolored from sitting in the air too long or from the color of your nutes. Nute strength shouldn't have much bearing on root color at all. If they are shocked, it will be present on the plant far before it shows in the roots. I dont think its anything to do with nutes, but the fact you left them out of the res for too long when you were adjusting your res.
Did they perk back up?

They did perk back up, but they look dark green. Like nitrogen toxicity. ..the 2 I was worried about came back, but some of the big fan leaves got messed up, started twisting and drying up, the color faded on some of the leaves but they did pop back up, you can tell in the light that it must of been to much nuts because of how dark all of them was getting, and how fast it happens as soon as I added the nutes...now another thing is the other day I flushed them in str8 water for 24 hrs, and then I added the nutes to it which I think was too high, like 480-500. Especially coming from being in str8 water for 24 hrs..then jump right in to a higher solution, I think shocked them, the environment changed so fast I think they went ready. But I was relieved that this morning they were still alive lol, and the 2 I thought was dead for sure came back so that's good
 

HydroRed

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They did perk back up, but they look dark green. Like nitrogen toxicity. ..the 2 I was worried about came back, but some of the big fan leaves got messed up, started twisting and drying up, the color faded on some of the leaves but they did pop back up, you can tell in the light that it must of been to much nuts because of how dark all of them was getting, and how fast it happens as soon as I added the nutes...now another thing is the other day I flushed them in str8 water for 24 hrs, and then I added the nutes to it which I think was too high, like 480-500. Especially coming from being in str8 water for 24 hrs..then jump right in to a higher solution, I think shocked them, the environment changed so fast I think they went ready. But I was relieved that this morning they were still alive lol, and the 2 I thought was dead for sure came back so that's good

The green color wont change dark within a few hrs either. They didnt get darker in the time you were messing with them a few hours ago. They were already dark before you did anything since N tox takes days not minutes. Just run a low ppm of about 350 or so with a pH of 5.7-6.5 and they will be fine (safe bet is usually to run half strength of what it says to run on the bottle). Temps holding up ok in the tent since fixing it up?
 

stezzy

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The green color wont change dark within a few hrs either. They didnt get darker in the time you were messing with them a few hours ago. They were already dark before you did anything since N tox takes days not minutes. Just run a low ppm of about 350 or so with a pH of 5.7-6.5 and they will be fine (safe bet is usually to run half strength of what it says to run on the bottle). Temps holding up ok in the tent since fixing it up?


Well I did lower the nuts a bit, so will they bounce back in like a week? Seems like they might be stunted for a bit. The tent temp is still like 82, I do have a Lil co2 going, speaking of that how can I keep the co2 inside the tent if the exhaust fan is suckin it out. And I'm having issues keeping the humidity high now that the tent is shut. Only in the 45 range. ..I need it more 50-60. I moved my 2 flowering plants to a different room, so that I can use my mh light, and move my other autos in the tent that's in veg
 

HydroRed

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45% is a pretty good RH. You have to have a sealed room to run CO2 meaning nothing with exhausts or inlets. This means that the room is totally sealed up with no air leaks or exchange, then you run an air conditioner inside the room to maintain temps. The hot exhaust from the ac is the only air that escapes the room. Then you can keep your CO2 at a nice rich 1200-1500ppm and it wont get wasted by being sucked out by the exhaust.
 

stezzy

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45% is a pretty good RH. You have to have a sealed room to run CO2 meaning nothing with exhausts or inlets. This means that the room is totally sealed up with no air leaks or exchange, then you run an air conditioner inside the room to maintain temps. The hot exhaust from the ac is the only air that escapes the room. Then you can keep your CO2 at a nice rich 1200-1500ppm and it wont get wasted by being sucked out by the exhaust.

Dam that sucks because I have to use my exhaust fan, it will be too hot if I dont. I'm hoping things go back to normal..I mean for my first time I think I'm doing guck in awesome, but I made some dumb mistakes , and now I got to catch up
 

stezzy

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Dam that sucks because I have to use my exhaust fan, it will be too hot if I dont. I'm hoping things go back to normal..I mean for my first time I think I'm doing guck in awesome, but I made some dumb mistakes , and

Is 82 a pretty good temp, ?. I mine as well take the other co2 generators out, that will poll make the temp go down a Lil since it's no need for it with the exhaust
 

HydroRed

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Also, since you aren't monocropping, your going to experience fluctuations from plant to plant. This is why I'd suggest for future grows just running 1 strain for anything that will share a res. Then if one likes the juice, they should all like it. Your doing fine and keep in mind that the cannabis plant is very hearty and is a pretty resilient plant. Dont overthink it and worry it into submission...aka overloving your plants.
In my opinion, co2 is just a big pain in the ass. I tried it on a couple different grows, and honestly cant say if there were any remarkable differences other than my wallet getting thinner from refilling my 20# tanks every 2-3 wks @ $25 each.
I'd just get the basics down for now, then move into the advanced techniques and room styles that are required for a proper co2 application.
 

stezzy

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45% is a pretty good RH. You have to have a sealed room to run CO2 meaning nothing with exhausts or inlets. This means that the room is totally sealed up with no air leaks or exchange, then you run an air conditioner inside the room to maintain temps. The hot exhaust from the ac is the only air that escapes the room. Then you can keep your CO2 at a nice rich 1200-1500ppm and it wont get wasted by being sucked out by the exhaust.
Also, since you aren't monocropping, your going to experience fluctuations from plant to plant. This is why I'd suggest for future grows just running 1 strain for anything that will share a res. Then if one likes the juice, they should all like it. Your doing fine and keep in mind that the cannabis plant is very hearty and is a pretty resilient plant. Dont overthink it and worry it into submission...aka overloving your plants.
In my opinion, co2 is just a big pain in the ass. I tried it on a couple different grows, and honestly cant say if there were any remarkable differences other than my wallet getting thinner from refilling my 20# tanks every 2-3 wks @ $25 each.
I'd just get the basics down for now, then move into the advanced techniques and room styles that are required for a proper co2 application.
 

stezzy

Active Member
45% is a pretty good RH. You have to have a sealed room to run CO2 meaning nothing with exhausts or inlets. This means that the room is totally sealed up with no air leaks or exchange, then you run an air conditioner inside the room to maintain temps. The hot exhaust from the ac is the only air that escapes the room. Then you can keep your CO2 at a nice rich 1200-1500ppm and it wont get wasted by being sucked out by the exhaust.


That makes since, I wish I didon't but those co2 buckets lol...I'm still try a figure out why I can't get my temp lower. I'd like to be around 75-77. When I cut the co2 I should be at like 77-79. I'm guessing. So for now I should keep the nutes low for awhile until things go back to normal. And I'm Def gonna pick ome strain to run next time, definitely
 

HydroRed

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Ditch the co2 generators. They are completely useless in your application. Other than the bucket generators, are you using burners? If so, your just adding needless heat to your tent.
 

stezzy

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No burners
Ditch the co2 generators. They are completely useless in your application. Other than the bucket generators, are you using burners? If so, your just adding needless heat to your tent.

No burners, just co2 bucket generators, pull a tab and you have co2. When I used them before I could tell they were making the plants explode in growth, but if I'm just wasting it I guess I don't need it
 

stezzy

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Should I use the buckets of co2 for my 2 that's flowering?

I had to make some changes and move my 2 flowering to a different place, the lighting is way less, only using like 3 2700 watt cfl, I mean that's the best option I cam up with since my other girls are in veg, and need a different environment then the 2 in flower. I no my yieldad for those is gonna be way less with those few lights. But my veggers are the most important right now
 

HydroRed

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Should I use the buckets of co2 for my 2 that's flowering?
They are already opened & aren't hurting anything, but likely not doing much at all either so.......

I had to make some changes and move my 2 flowering to a different place, the lighting is way less, only using like 3 2700 watt cfl, I mean that's the best option I cam up with since my other girls are in veg, and need a different environment then the 2 in flower. I no my yieldad for those is gonna be way less with those few lights. But my veggers are the most important right now
I hear ya on the importance of your veg plants. I could stand for my flower room to go south and lose it all, but I'd be devistated if I lost my mommas in my veg room.
 

stezzy

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They aren't hurting anything, but likely not doing much at all either so.......



I hear ya on the importance of your veg plants. I could stand for my flower room to go south and lose it all, but I'd be devistated if I lost my mommas in my veg room.

Do you think it's better for me to leave the low nute solution in for awhile now, or should I do str8 water for awhile
 

HydroRed

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Low ppm should be good. When you top off your res, do it with straight water though (and 3ml per gallon of cal mag since you use RO water). That way you can mild out the ppm in the res gradually as they feed, then mix it up on your following week/phase of nutrient strength and start with a clean slate so to speak. Aside from veg to flower res change, I can usually keep a res throughout veg, then throughout flower without changing anything out and only adding nutes/topping off other than the final week. Some folks are fanatical about changing their res completely every week or 2.....I'm not one of those folks lol & I'm not trying to lug around 35+ gallons of water either. I run a sterile res too though so that is a big factor in things.
You probably already mentioned it but what nutrients are you using?
 

stezzy

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They are already opened & aren't hurting anything, but likely not doing much at all either so.......



I hear ya on the importance of your veg plants. I could stand for my flower room to go south and lose it all, but I'd be devistated if I lost my mommas in my veg room.
Low ppm should be good. When you top off your res, do it with straight water though (and 3ml per gallon of cal mag since you use RO water). That way you can mild out the ppm in the res gradually as they feed, then mix it up on your following week/phase of nutrient strength and start with a clean slate so to speak. Aside from veg to flower res change, I can usually keep a res throughout veg, then throughout flower without changing anything out and only adding nutes/topping off other than the final week. Some folks are fanatical about changing their res completely every week or 2.....I'm not one of those folks lol & I'm not trying to lug around 35+ gallons of water either. I run a sterile res too though so that is a big factor in things.
You probably already mentioned it but what nutrients are you using?

So you saying I don't have to keep going to fill those fucking 5 gallon jugs no more ..please tell me that lol..because I've been changing them every 2 weeks, and it's a lot of work lugging those jugs around lol....I only use hydrogen peroxide 3% in my resume to keep it sterile, but I just bought some 29% hydrogen peroxide which someone told me is a lot better. I'm using the flora series, gro,micro, and bloom...3 part general hydroponics brand. I was using rapid rooter liquid as well but someone told me to not use that, even tho it says it's for hydro....and say my but strength is 320, actually right now it's prolly less because the calmag buy itself put the ppms up to liken200, so when I dumped most of that strong solution, I poll dumped out some calmag too but probably not all of it. But let's say in wanna do what your doing and just top off, I can't seem to figure out how to get the right amount. So let's say I have 20 gallons of water with 300 ppms of nutes, the plants eat and it drops down to 250. If I want to just add 50 more, how do I apply that . How do I no how much water the plants drunk to replenish the 300 level. I'm having troubles with that that's why I usually just either top with str8 water, or dump and start over...way too much work if you ask me,
 
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