How We Are Supposed to Live As Man On The Earth?

KevvDog

Member
Like I said kev dog not everyone will be suited to this way of living but all that want to i feel should have the oppurtunity to do so.
Evil
I honestly feel the same way. If that would make you happy to live a natural life, I say go for it. And unlike a lot of other people, I will not judge you for that. I just think that it would be more like running from the problem, even though fixing it would be nearly impossible.

Where are you planing on having this town of natural living people?
 

undertheice

Well-Known Member
Life to me is about love to all, for all of us to share love and respect each other. Life to me is about love peace equality we can all live happily peacefully if we share and look after each other. The way we are headed is for destruction, we need to change in order for us to survive.
it might surprise you to know that most everyone on the face of the earth has at least a glimmer of that same desire within them. it might surprise you, but it really shouldn't. look past the scare tactic headlines and the agenda driven attacks and you will find a world filled with people who embrace charity whenever they can and harbor no ill will where it is not warranted. of course there is evil, all men do evil do one degree or another. that evil is a part of our nature, but it is not the productive part and it is easily pushed aside if we are given the chance.

those tired cliches of big oil being an uncaring monster and evil corporations crushing the working man for a few dollars more are little more than a sad attempt to lay the blame for humanity's failures at the feet of faceless entities. no matter how big any business may be, it is still under the control of ordinary people and those people have the same capacities for kindness and cruelty as the rest of us. their errors may have more impact than smaller entities or than individuals, but there is no inherent evil in success. you may think you are willing to forego profit for the good of mankind, but you are just as prone to seek success as anyone. the quest for profit is a quest to better your own lot in life and that of those around you. no one really wants to watch as their life circles the drain slowly fades into obscurity and that is the inevitable result of avoiding success.

that other old saw, the equality of all men, is equally false. there is a moment in life, just at the instant of birth, when we are all equal. after that moment we are at the mercy of our own efforts, the efforts of our forebearers and the vagaries of our existence on this earth. we may treat our fellows as equals, but each of our destinies are determined by forces both within and beyond our control. we may be born into wealth or a loving family. in this case our task is to live up to our heritage or to waste those advantages. we may be born into poverty or despair. this gives us the opportunity to rise above our circumstances or to allow our disadvantages to overwhelm us. whether our heritage is to our advantage or disadvantage is dependent on the efforts of those who came before us. it is only right that they be allowed to pass on the fruits of their labors and only just that their failures earn their descendants no claim to the effort of others. as we live our life, we may find that fortune smiles upon us and that every endeavor we turn our hand to blossoms and bears fruit. this gives us the mere moral obligation to aid those less fortunate and the opportunity to engage in charity. we may find nothing but ill luck and see our every effort turned against us. this gives us no right to the successes of those more fortunate and may demand that we accept the gifts of others, but we should do so without rancor or envy of their better luck. of course, our own effort is the greatest determiner of our destiny. that we are willing to persevere, no matter the outcome, is a success in itself and failure is only found when we finally give up and cease the struggle.

mankind is naturally born into poverty. all our advances and comforts have been paid for with the sweat and blood of others. somewhere, deep inside, we all know this and are more than willing to share that fortune. there is love and peace all around you, you just have to look beyond the ranting of malcontents and the screaming headlines of the agenda driven media. you merely have to reach out with kindness and you will find a great deal of it returned. our doom is spelled out in our own unwillingness to recognize that kindness. the only change that is really needed is to understand that the peace we desire is all around us and to reach out and hold on to it. evil will be done, but we cannot dwell on it nor return it in kind. errors will be made, but we should never read more into them than what they are. what we require is less outside control and penalization for our transgressions, more self-control and incentive to expand on the kindness we all desire to both give and receive. those things are no more readily found amid nature than in the hectic world of life today.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
it might surprise you to know that most everyone on the face of the earth has at least a glimmer of that same desire within them. it might surprise you, but it really shouldn't. look past the scare tactic headlines and the agenda driven attacks and you will find a world filled with people who embrace charity whenever they can and harbor no ill will where it is not warranted. of course there is evil, all men do evil do one degree or another. that evil is a part of our nature, but it is not the productive part and it is easily pushed aside if we are given the chance.

those tired cliches of big oil being an uncaring monster and evil corporations crushing the working man for a few dollars more are little more than a sad attempt to lay the blame for humanity's failures at the feet of faceless entities. no matter how big any business may be, it is still under the control of ordinary people and those people have the same capacities for kindness and cruelty as the rest of us. their errors may have more impact than smaller entities or than individuals, but there is no inherent evil in success. you may think you are willing to forego profit for the good of mankind, but you are just as prone to seek success as anyone. the quest for profit is a quest to better your own lot in life and that of those around you. no one really wants to watch as their life circles the drain slowly fades into obscurity and that is the inevitable result of avoiding success.

that other old saw, the equality of all men, is equally false. there is a moment in life, just at the instant of birth, when we are all equal. after that moment we are at the mercy of our own efforts, the efforts of our forebearers and the vagaries of our existence on this earth. we may treat our fellows as equals, but each of our destinies are determined by forces both within and beyond our control. we may be born into wealth or a loving family. in this case our task is to live up to our heritage or to waste those advantages. we may be born into poverty or despair. this gives us the opportunity to rise above our circumstances or to allow our disadvantages to overwhelm us. whether our heritage is to our advantage or disadvantage is dependent on the efforts of those who came before us. it is only right that they be allowed to pass on the fruits of their labors and only just that their failures earn their descendants no claim to the effort of others. as we live our life, we may find that fortune smiles upon us and that every endeavor we turn our hand to blossoms and bears fruit. this gives us the mere moral obligation to aid those less fortunate and the opportunity to engage in charity. we may find nothing but ill luck and see our every effort turned against us. this gives us no right to the successes of those more fortunate and may demand that we accept the gifts of others, but we should do so without rancor or envy of their better luck. of course, our own effort is the greatest determiner of our destiny. that we are willing to persevere, no matter the outcome, is a success in itself and failure is only found when we finally give up and cease the struggle.

mankind is naturally born into poverty. all our advances and comforts have been paid for with the sweat and blood of others. somewhere, deep inside, we all know this and are more than willing to share that fortune. there is love and peace all around you, you just have to look beyond the ranting of malcontents and the screaming headlines of the agenda driven media. you merely have to reach out with kindness and you will find a great deal of it returned. our doom is spelled out in our own unwillingness to recognize that kindness. the only change that is really needed is to understand that the peace we desire is all around us and to reach out and hold on to it. evil will be done, but we cannot dwell on it nor return it in kind. errors will be made, but we should never read more into them than what they are. what we require is less outside control and penalization for our transgressions, more self-control and incentive to expand on the kindness we all desire to both give and receive. those things are no more readily found amid nature than in the hectic world of life today.

People should have to pay money to read shit like this.

+rep
 

ma0ma0ma0

Member
is it not "natural" for humans to use our brains? sure we have made the planet polluted and stuff but have also created and learned so much. eventually we will either have to find a way to progress without harming the environment or die but that is a long way off
 

Massiv3

Active Member
Under the ice: + rep for your wise, kind words.

I think ultimately this life is really just a training or filtering for spirit, and that the end goal is to increase awareness. I think that the end of the journey in this life brings you back towards the G over D, godhead, Awareness, whatever you call it. The awareness you experience in this life helps you make the next journey. I think that until you have experienced, accepted, and understood Awareness you continue to be reborn into this life until your spirit manages to figure it all out. I think that this is the purpose of life. Perhaps, even, that the enlightened spirits here move on to higher dimensional awareness, a form of life (existence) in hyperdimensional context.

I do not claim to have such experience; few people are capable of fully realizing this level of awareness through their own self-discovery before experiencing death. I think that everyone is entitled to seek his own method of obtaining such awareness.

technology is similar to language, religion, etc. in that it is a dimensional hack propagated through awareness. ultimately, the destructive nature of technology (in an earthnocentric way) would only serve to forcibly "teach" awareness to the descendants of today. In other words, as time goes on and technology increases the cycle of resurrection is compounded, thus serving awareness. So my point is that the individual must prepare for his own journey, as it is the only one. Equally important is realizing that the power to create this journey is internal [Yes means more than No].

Under the Ice has a nice little quote on his sig:

"Ages of experience testify that the only way society can be improved is by the individualist method..., that is, the method of each one doing his very best to improve one."

Cheers
 

Retris

Member
is it not "natural" for humans to use our brains? sure we have made the planet polluted and stuff but have also created and learned so much. eventually we will either have to find a way to progress without harming the environment or die but that is a long way off

Did you just give us .. Evolution??:wink:
 

Evil Buddies

Ganja King
When you live in nature, when u grow your own food build ur own hut/house. You are not dependant on anyone just the sun and rain. You dont have to worry that if u lose ur job u might lose ur home. You dont have to rely on others supply food for you. You dont have to work many hours a week and maybe miss ur kids taking there 1st steps. I got a mate whos married and him and his wife works. They got two kids and pay for someone to look after there kids. They make a lot of money, and can provide for there kids give them all the material things. Now when they get home have dinner the kids then go to bed and the only time they have with them is on the weekend. Money imho doesnt come close to watching ur kids 1st steps. Hearing there first words having the time and enjoying the most wonderfull thing in ur life. Showing them love and building a special relationship with them. NO AMOUNT OF MONEY CAN COMPENSATE YOU FOR MISSING OUT ON THESE THINGS. If you decided to live in nature while your working on ur crops your kids can be there and you can teach them how to plant and cultivate crops. You have more time with your family have a closer bond to them. Love is more powerfull than money love is the strongest force in the universe. Don't sell out to money over love as love will conquer all.

When people live in nature they have all they need, they havent got want. When living in the machine world you always want more. The more money u get the more want u get. Once you got what u want u get bored and want something else. All i want is for man to grow up and be peacefull more loving and compassionate. To help people that are in need instead of exploiting them coz they are vunerable. Stop cutting down our rainforest's that is the lungs of the earth providing us with energy. Stop polluting our air with harmfull emissions. If i choose to live in nature i'am not a part of this. At the moment I'm contributing to the pollution, I'm buying goods that might have had child slave labour to produce them. Living in nature will clear my concious and i know that i wont contribute to any of the above. I will be happy when i leave the machine world and get back to nature. I wont see all the violence and evil in the world just the world that god provided us to live instead of the evil artificial world most of us live in.


Evil
 

ChronicTron

Active Member
Radiation as been on this planet since the begining. it can create and destroy life its still here giving light to our planet and our plants and blowing shit the fuck up with a bombs protecting soldiers with depleated uranium armor and kiling others with uranium shells. Its life dude, all that you can do is live it.
 

Evil Buddies

Ganja King
I have a few places i can go Malaysia is one where there are some tribes that live a natural life. In Jamaica is another in the mountains the centre of jamaica a few places in the carribean is suitable. Ideally I would like to get as many people that are interested and some how acquire some land and set up a new community. I can defniately go to jamaica that isnt a problem but i like how the malaysian tribe lives and go about life. If they would accept me I would like to go there although jamaica is perfect to.

Evil
 

Evil Buddies

Ganja King
Radiation as been on this planet since the begining. it can create and destroy life its still here giving light to our planet and our plants and blowing shit the fuck up with a bombs protecting soldiers with depleated uranium armor and kiling others with uranium shells. Its life dude, all that you can do is live it.
I hear what your saying but it is life and we can change it. If people didnt fight for their rights then we would still have apartheid and slavery. Black people would still be classed as 2nd class citizens. Same with equal rights for women when they wasnt allowed to vote and would get paid less for doing the same job as a man. If these people that fought for their rights thought fukk it i will just live it, we wouldnt be were we are today. So I say we can change and make a difference all of us if we unite and stick together. People just bury their heads in the sand and hope things will be ok. They think we cant do nothing about it and carry on with their lives excepting the government rules. We owe it to our children to fight for a better world for them and eventually their children to live in.


Evil
 

ChronicTron

Active Member
I hear what your saying but it is life and we can change it. If people didnt fight for their rights then we would still have apartheid and slavery. Black people would still be classed as 2nd class citizens. Same with equal rights for women when they wasnt allowed to vote and would get paid less for doing the same job as a man. If these people that fought for their rights thought fukk it i will just live it, we wouldnt be were we are today. So I say we can change and make a difference all of us if we unite and stick together. People just bury their heads in the sand and hope things will be ok. They think we cant do nothing about it and carry on with their lives excepting the government rules. We owe it to our children to fight for a better world for them and eventually their children to live in.
Evil
True but if you look at it Black people are still considered as 2nd class citizens in the eyes of many espcially that ivy league douche that got his job because of daddys connections but thinks hes the hardest working person in the world, women do get paid less than men for the same job this isnt as seldom as history has shown us but none the less still going on, right to vote for women: Three words "Hilary Rodham Clinton". They did just live it, they lived it through fighting for rights n such, and i thank them for that and for places to set up a new culture id suggest Greenland new land has been uncovered due to ice caps melting land that hasnt been set foot on for 50+ years but as for any land u gotta look a the close by government and cut deals and such cause i mean they have armys, and just waking up in the morning seeing that some strangers just set up camp in your backyard is kina suspect of invasion, an infraction that can lead to war depending on your amount of force but most likely deportation. But hell if your going for it im down for the cause
 

catherine kuenzi

New Member
Wow! This Is Old stuff! I always felt in my guts that I'm stuck un This système. I feel everybody deserve their pece of land. Indeed the planet Is gonne defand it self , cancer , flu natural catastrophys.This planet have a hard Time getting rid of thé parasyte that Is humain kind. So help her, stop Doing babi's!!! It's juste selfish Right now!!!! Why in thé world yould You whant à humain being to grow in This sick planet with those sick living.I feel like i shouldent be living now. I I'm à shame of being humain. Please help me see clearly.
 
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catherine kuenzi

New Member
Ho allso we destroyed something really important with our "technologie", natural sélection.... It's really too bad, It was one of the only way to control the number of being on Heart...:/
 
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