HOW TO USE A BUCHNER FILTER

Nor-Cal Cuttings

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Best way to use buchner filter with butane? need help with method im thinking of picking one up and wanted to kno a lil more about it and how shatter comes out when you use one the rite way
 

Nor-Cal Cuttings

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Will it make my product more stable and shatter even when its hot out side im looking for a method that makes real shatter not sap or something that shatters but after a couple days its waxy agian. ... any tips making shatter that not sticky at all to and also dont ruin the turps?
 

Bublonichronic

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I could be wrong but thc is crystalline and aromatic terpene are more of a oil...making terped out shatter a oxymoron...that's not saying it can't taste good but ime saps are generally more flavorful
 

Nor-Cal Cuttings

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the buchner funnel is used with a secondary solvent. after yoou have blasted you use a secondary solvent like everclear and winterize the solution then filter thru the buchner funnel
Yea i get winterizing but i was told that the butane that collects in your pan... not to purg it off but to put the butane i understand that normally someone would use moonshine or something but that i guess stripps your flavor profile but anyway the butane that is collected in your pan or beaker i asume for this method then is put on dry ice in a cooler for at least a couple hours to let all the fats and shit to accumulate and clump together then i was told to run that frozen butane threw the buchner filter and it would dewax without ruining my taste anyone ever tryed this i asume it would work seeing how butane when you blow it thu dont mess up the taste its the other solvent that do kind jus wanted couple opinions befor i tryed if anyone has done this lmk and after i try i will post some pics if i dont blow up storeing the liquid butane in a ice chest :o
 

Nor-Cal Cuttings

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Pretty much i just want a product that is able to b touched for more that a few seconds i understand sap more powerful but i can make small amounts of sap for personal use and friends but most of my patients perfer something they can touch and isn't so messy also they want shatter not crumble iv tryed to turn them onto it tell them its the same product but they jus dont get it i can talk till im blue in the face they jus want shatter no matter wat i say
 

Twitch

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If you use the secondary solvent at low temps it helps retain alot of the terpenes lost in this method, don't heat it up to dissolve the oil and if you now you are going to use a secondary solvent don't try to purge the butane off with heat or the vacuum the secondary solvent will purge it all out. I use a silicon mat inside of a pyrex so when it gets to the point where it wont run off a flat surface I put it in the vac oven. Also you have to watch your pump because there is still water and depending on the size of the run could be a few grams.

CLS or open tubes?
 

Nor-Cal Cuttings

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If you use the secondary solvent at low temps it helps retain alot of the terpenes lost in this method, don't heat it up to dissolve the oil and if you now you are going to use a secondary solvent don't try to purge the butane off with heat or the vacuum the secondary solvent will purge it all out. I use a silicon mat inside of a pyrex so when it gets to the point where it wont run off a flat surface I put it in the vac oven. Also you have to watch your pump because there is still water and depending on the size of the run could be a few grams.

CLS or open tubes?
Open tube
 

Nor-Cal Cuttings

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I would highly advise against what you described..... I cant think of a scenario where you will be able to keep the butane that cold for the whole process... without being in a walk in freezer.
So if i use a secondary solvent befor i purg and do it at low temps like 98 or 108? It should be solid shatter not sap and not have a harsh taste or taste the moonshine? Shine is 190 proof is that high enough?
 
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Nor-Cal Cuttings

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How do you keep the alcohol cold enough during the whole process so the fats and shit dont do watever they do.... just freezing it for 12 hours should make it cold enough for everthing to filter out.. also dose the batch size make a difference?
 

Twitch

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thermos is not a person more or less a tool. I still do not advise what you have described.

the thermos method- take a thermos and you are supposed to drill 3 small holes in the lid, one for the tip of the butane can the other 2 for the gas to come out. the thermos "insulated" will stay cold enough that the butane can pool in the thermos. when you empty a can or 2 remove the lid and look inside at the clear liquid this is liquid butane "extremely explosive" now take your material and drop it in the thermos careful it will boil when you add the room temp material to -40 degree butane, now take a coffee filter or 3 and put it over the mouth with the lid off then flip upside down over a pyrex dish the preasure inside from the butane boiling will force the liquid butane through the filter with the oil. so for you instead of a pyrex get a buchner funnel....

you do know that it is not the funnel but the filter that is inside the funnel, most buchner funnels i have seen have huge holes and are meant for you to put a coffee filter in them. the buchner that i have has a 2 to 5 micron ceramic filter in it
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Nor-Cal Cuttings

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Ha my bad stoner moment thanks ya im still going to try wat i seen my buddy do pretty much same thing you jus said jus with out having to make anouther pool of butane u jus use the one you maid when you blasted the tubes in to your dish ima jus pour it into a thermos or directly into my buchner funnel and then cook off the butan ill let you guys kno how it works out thanks for the help and i will make sure ill b super carefull and shit but you never no till you try its not to much different from how i used to make it befor i changed up to make cookie or crumble so yee ill post some pics of the finished product and ill explain the process i use when i figure out exactly how i am gona do it safely im not jus gonna jump into all this cuz i was always really carefull when i used to make it a similar way so ya thanks for all the info..... i jus dewaxed some useing 190 proof moonshine taste realy good thanks for the info on that too helped clear my product up alot and but i wana find a way do it all in one process without other solvents
 

Nor-Cal Cuttings

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Ha my bad stoner moment thanks ya im still going to try wat i seen my buddy do pretty much same thing you jus said jus with out having to make anouther pool of butane u jus use the one you maid when you blasted the tubes in to your dish ima jus pour it into a thermos or directly into my buchner funnel and then cook off the butan ill let you guys kno how it works out thanks for the help and i will make sure ill b super carefull and shit but you never no till you try its not to much different from how i used to make it befor i changed up to make cookie or crumble so yee ill post some pics of the finished product and ill explain the process i use when i figure out exactly how i am gona do it safely im not jus gonna jump into all this cuz i was always really carefull when i used to make it a similar way so ya thanks for all the info..... i jus dewaxed some useing 190 proof moonshine taste realy good thanks for the info on that too helped clear my product up alot and but i wana find a way do it all in one process without other solvents
so i will be experimenting and looking for the single stage process wish me luck and any other info that mite help me out is alway appreciated :-D
 
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