how to make a cheap nute for flowering stage?

juts

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i cant find any organic nutes here for flowering, all i have now is fish emulsion-guano-seaweed mix that i bought npk= 0.42-0.23-5.31, cal=0.42 mag=0.16 + trace elements tried this on my test run the plants seem to like it from 1/4-full dose but my prob is DIY nutes made specific for the flowering stage.. pls help!

i was thinkin of making flowering nutes from anything around my house

TIA
 

OSG

Member
Juts.... Few items you have laying around the house, are suitable for making a quality bloom nutes. If you had some Azomite, High P Bat Guano, and some hardwood ashes, then yes, you could make suitable feeding teas.
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If you're already into flowering, topdressing something like a Higher P Bat Guano, wouldn't be your best option. It takes time for anything you topdress to breakdown, and become available to the plant.
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Liquid bloom nutes, like Earth Juice, Age Old, or BMO (Blue Mountain Organics - Ebay) are your better choices, since they're in a form the plant can make use of immediately. Everyday into flowering, you're not providing your plants with an easy to use bloom nute, is a day you're cutting yourself short on yield.
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IME things from under the sink, or in the cleaning closet, don't make good bloom nutes....
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juts

Well-Known Member
Juts.... Few items you have laying around the house, are suitable for making a quality bloom nutes. If you had some Azomite, High P Bat Guano, and some hardwood ashes, then yes, you could make suitable feeding teas.
.
If you're already into flowering, topdressing something like a Higher P Bat Guano, wouldn't be your best option. It takes time for anything you topdress to breakdown, and become available to the plant.
.
Liquid bloom nutes, like Earth Juice, Age Old, or BMO (Blue Mountain Organics - Ebay) are your better choices, since they're in a form the plant can make use of immediately. Everyday into flowering, you're not providing your plants with an easy to use bloom nute, is a day you're cutting yourself short on yield.
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IME things from under the sink, or in the cleaning closet, don't make good bloom nutes....
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sadly, i dont have those:wall: even high P guano cant find anything:-(
 

OSG

Member
Juts... If you live in a rural area, ordering online, and getting it by UPS or in the mail, is probably cheaper than driving a great distance to aquire something. Given the current price of gasoline. A bottle of BMO's Flower Power, is like $ 7.50, even with shipping (maybe $ 5 to $ 8, it's not a bad deal. Not sure how many plants you're feeding, but one bottle makes 32 gallons of feeding solution.
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juts

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Juts... If you live in a rural area, ordering online, and getting it by UPS or in the mail, is probably cheaper than driving a great distance to aquire something. Given the current price of gasoline. A bottle of BMO's Flower Power, is like $ 7.50, even with shipping (maybe $ 5 to $ 8, it's not a bad deal. Not sure how many plants you're feeding, but one bottle makes 32 gallons of feeding solution.
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bro i live in SEA and we have very limited resources, ive tried searching and ordering online but the shipping fees are waaay more than the price of the items
btw what'll happen when i only use the organic mix i have and worm castings from start to harvest? -is this ok? i really want to maximize the yield
 

GreenChile

Active Member
Well your not going to be maximizing anything with what you have, in all honesty.
You could possibly make your own compost but that will take months.
Try to get some bone meal or crushed coral, or anything with some more phosphorus. You need more phosphorus.
Get some Molasis, Garden lime and epsom salt too.
You should look for Bone Meal, Blood Meal, and Kelp Meal. These are pretty common fertilizers and you should be able to find them, if not, you probably dont have any business growing.

Your best bet is to get some organic potting soil, add 10 cups of worm castings to every 35-40lbs of potting soil.
Add a cup of garden lime.
Add some High Phosphorus Bat Guano, Steamed bone meal, or pulverized coral.
You can veg your plant in this mix.
For feedings, make a tea in a 5 gallon water jug with worm castings, a little of your fish emulsion-guano-seaweed mix and epsom salt.

For Flowering:
Get a 5 gallon water jug, add some of your fish emulsion-guano-seaweed mix, a little worm castings, epsom salt, and molasis. Put it outside and make a tea from it, then mix in a 1:1 ratio with water for feeding.
This is all in theory, but it should work.
 

juts

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Well your not going to be maximizing anything with what you have, in all honesty.
You could possibly make your own compost but that will take months.
Try to get some bone meal or crushed coral, or anything with some more phosphorus. You need more phosphorus.
Get some Molasis, Garden lime and epsom salt too.
You should look for Bone Meal, Blood Meal, and Kelp Meal. These are pretty common fertilizers and you should be able to find them, if not, you probably dont have any business growing.

Your best bet is to get some organic potting soil, add 10 cups of worm castings to every 35-40lbs of potting soil.
Add a cup of garden lime.
Add some High Phosphorus Bat Guano, Steamed bone meal, or pulverized coral.
You can veg your plant in this mix.
For feedings, make a tea in a 5 gallon water jug with worm castings, a little of your fish emulsion-guano-seaweed mix and epsom salt.

For Flowering:
Get a 5 gallon water jug, add some of your fish emulsion-guano-seaweed mix, a little worm castings, epsom salt, and molasis. Put it outside and make a tea from it, then mix in a 1:1 ratio with water for feeding.
This is all in theory, but it should work.
wow thanks bro! will try soon! btw are there are there any more sources of phosporous besides those?

TIA
 

juts

Well-Known Member
How do the locals in your area grow their regular plants?
ive been to a field once to collect some landrace beans and they use diff kinds of manure, rice hulls or anything they could use :hump: but im growing indoors so i wanna maximize the yield so im looking for alternative bloom nutes to boost em
 

OSG

Member
Juts... Bone meal, or any kind of crushed shell, takes time to breakdown, and become available to the plants. Epsom salt should only be used in very small doses, or the sulphur in it, will kill off the very bacteria and fungi, you need to breakdown organic sourced fertilizers.
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Also don't use hydrated - aka - quick lime, in your pots. Over application is way too easy to do, and you'll fry your roots, and throw the pH out of the ballpark, creating further problems. Only use Dolomite Lime, in pots. It breaks down more evenly over time, doesn't cause sudden pH swings, and is a good source of both calcium & magnesium.
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Though I'm not a fan of chem ferts, but you'd be better off using them, as opposed to using nothing. Plants fed next to nothing, will produce next to nothing.
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Mary growing wild, feeds off soil, full of NPK & trace minerals from the non-stop composting that occurs in nature.
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Lot's of great vegan source fertilizers grow wild in fields : dandelions, stinging nettles, lambs quarter, and alfalfa, where cattle were once grazed. Any of these added to a compost pile, and given time to work, will eventually enrich your compost.
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With Mary grown in pots, you must provide the food sources. By the time you finished any compost, your grow would be over.
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Bottom line, you need buy some kind of higher P & K fertilizer, that says it can used for vegetables, or fruit trees. Otherwise, you're just wasting your time, and electricity.
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On your next grow, having the things you need ahead of time, will help ensure success.
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juts

Well-Known Member
Juts... Bone meal, or any kind of crushed shell, takes time to breakdown, and become available to the plants. Epsom salt should only be used in very small doses, or the sulphur in it, will kill off the very bacteria and fungi, you need to breakdown organic sourced fertilizers.
.
Also don't use hydrated - aka - quick lime, in your pots. Over application is way too easy to do, and you'll fry your roots, and throw the pH out of the ballpark, creating further problems. Only use Dolomite Lime, in pots. It breaks down more evenly over time, doesn't cause sudden pH swings, and is a good source of both calcium & magnesium.
.
Though I'm not a fan of chem ferts, but you'd be better off using them, as opposed to using nothing. Plants fed next to nothing, will produce next to nothing.
.
Mary growing wild, feeds off soil, full of NPK & trace minerals from the non-stop composting that occurs in nature.
.
Lot's of great vegan source fertilizers grow wild in fields : dandelions, stinging nettles, lambs quarter, and alfalfa, where cattle were once grazed. Any of these added to a compost pile, and given time to work, will eventually enrich your compost.
.
With Mary grown in pots, you must provide the food sources. By the time you finished any compost, your grow would be over.
.
Bottom line, you need buy some kind of higher P & K fertilizer, that says it can used for vegetables, or fruit trees. Otherwise, you're just wasting your time, and electricity.
.
On your next grow, having the things you need ahead of time, will help ensure success.
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thanks alot bro!!! im still doing some test runs indoors before i use the real beans, hopefully itll be a success now im waiting for summer to end too hot here to grow indoors
btw the bagseeds that i tested on were raised outdoors

im worried about the mandala's cuz ive read some grows and theyre very nute sensitive so i think ima go light on them maybe il use the organic nute i have and topdress with worm castings/pre made compost.. still searching for organic bloom nute alternatives. oh and btw im using soiless mix for my indoor grow
 

Cannikid

Active Member
Do you mean Sea as in Seattle? If so there are fifteen grow supply store s within a five mile radius.
 

Cannikid

Active Member
Ya youre pretty much not going to find any name brand nutrients. Look in the organic section under teas. There are manyy to choose from
 

juts

Well-Known Member
ive found some pre made compost!! will this work? the label says: bloom booster soil conditioner fine kompost for all kinds of plants. total nitrogen 1.26%%, total phosporous 1.05% available phosporous 2.41%(what does this mean?), total potassium 1.52% total water soluble potassium 1.84% organic matter 55.3% C:N ratio 22 ph 6.3

so the question is.. will this work out? how to use it?
 
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