how to grow mushrooms the easy way

Greenunity

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Did you read the tek?
Yes, which part are you referring to?

I'm trying to troubleshoot because from all that I've read, colonization is not supposed to take months. I understand that the small jars are playing a role in the mycelium not getting enough oxygen, which causes slow colonization, but I've addressed this by giving them air so am trying to consider other factors. I'm trying to learn and read as much as I can, but this is my first time so please bear with me.
 

nicemarmot

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Mycelium growth seems stalled at this stage.
1) I think I made the mistake of overfilling jars with popcorn - some are as much as 70% full. Could issue be a shortage of oxygen?
2) I feel like I shook the jars too much in the beginning and it retarded the growth so I'm reluctant to do that again. Been 3 weeks since shaking. I may have just answered my question??...
3) 3 weeks ago, I opened jars and fanned in more oxygen inside of a sanitized tote. I saw an increase in growth and now seemingly stalled again.
4) No signs of contamination. All is snowy white but not taking off.
5) temp is consistently 75-85 F.
6) total time since inoculation is approx 7 weeks.

I know I can do this - what am I missing?
 

canndo

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the point is that each kernel should be completely or nearly completely colonized.

Before being exposed to air. Mycelium of this type is very highly resistant to contamination and it grows very quickly.

In order to eliminate using tyvek or other filters we just use the air in the jar.
When Mycelium runs out of oxygen it goes into stasis which of course can be revived by more oxygen.

The Mycelium should cover most of the grain before being exposed or you will get contamination. Most often at this stage you will get a bacterial contamination that will fool a newbie into thinking there is no problem but the Mycelium will stall. If shaken, the Mycelium will spring back.

What happened in your case is as you suspected, simply was not enough air inin your jar to sustain growth for just long enough to cover every piece of corn.

To every one else, one of the problems with pf tek is that you have to wait so long for the cake to grow out, and you usually waste nutrient while you wait.
The point here is that given environmental temperatures of 80 or should never take more than ten days total.

Your grain cost what? Five bucks?

Your enthusiasm is worth more and this method always yields something new to look at.

Get the right jars, fill them half way or a little more and try again.

If you are short on spores, consider that you can sterilize water, let it cool and draw it into a partly used syringe.

Or even an empty one if you had preserved it.
 

PancakeJane

Member
Thank you Canndo, I've read through your Q & A responses to other members and have gleaned valuable info! My cakes are not fruiting. Took 28 days to colonize and have been in the fruiting chamber now since 11/20 (9 days), still no pins. From what I've read, I'm going to start airing out 2x an hour to see if I can increase oxygen and get something going. I've been keeping H2O up around 80-95% and temps at 80... If the extra airing doesn't inspire anything, I'll check in with you for suggestions.
 

PancakeJane

Member
You think? I'm watching them like a neurotic hawk! I'm going to try to post a photo in a minute to see if anyone here sees something I'm missing!
 

DaSprout

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I have to be honest Jane. Those are some odd looking cakes. What are they made of? The only reason is. I hope that is myc on ther and not cobweb mold. Maybe it's my eyes and the picture lighting.
 

PancakeJane

Member
Thank you for your reply DaSprout!!

They should be all myc rolled in verm. How would cobweb mold grow? They were inoculated in sterile jars with verm, rice flour, and distilled water. 1/4" verm at top of jar. After birthing, rinsing and soaking, i rolled them in sterilized verm and put them in the fruiting chamber. They seem to be growing more myc over the verm and I haven't wanted to re-roll them or mess with them. I just keep spraying distilled water in the chamber to keep it moist and I have only been airing 1x a day. I'm going to try 2x an hour to see if I can get some action... thoughts?
 

PancakeJane

Member
Also, if you see the little sprouts in the perlite, those are bird seed. I read that the philocybin may levels increase when some bird seeds are present. Probably in the soil, but I thought, why not throw some in there?
 

DaSprout

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It's all good. I just couldn't tell from the picks. Cobweb mold is more of a greyish/off white cotton like growth. If it spores then that would become a problem. But since it isn't...
Good luck!
:-P
 
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