How much is too much?

mrpuffins

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So here is the size of a box with a six site dwc tubs sitting in it waiting to bubble when the seeds arrive! With the limited space I intend to top and put a screen in and train them.

Debating on a couple factors like number of plants and placement to maximize use of available space.
( Sites are numbered for reference )

Just sites 2 and 3, top them and train the arms the opposite way all the way across.

Don't top but just do some bending and tying and fill sites 1,2,5,6

2,3,6 because three plants is good for the space?

What do you think?

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ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

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You really could go with any configuration you want, just depends on how much training you want to do. If you will all 6 sites you could do more of a sog than a scrog, but if you chose to do fewer plants and top and scrog that would work too. With only having 17X14 inch area maybe fewer plants might be better. If you decided to do all 6 you could flip to flower quicker though. Is the 34" of height ground to ceiling or top of dwc tub to ceiling? Also what lights do you plan on using?
 

grouch

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Are you wanting a variety of strains? The reason most people run multiple plants is to cut down on veg time. It would take no time at all to fill a screen in an area that small. Trying to keep six plants that small can be done but it will be harder than just one plant spread out.

Sometimes I keep two going so I can harvest one every month perpetually. My space is 11"x20"x30" so I have some experience in micro growing.
 

mrpuffins

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You really could go with any configuration you want, just depends on how much training you want to do. If you will all 6 sites you could do more of a sog than a scrog, but if you chose to do fewer plants and top and scrog that would work too. With only having 17X14 inch area maybe fewer plants might be better. If you decided to do all 6 you could flip to flower quicker though. Is the 34" of height ground to ceiling or top of dwc tub to ceiling? Also what lights do you plan on using?
Hello again :)

About 26" from medium to top.

Not in a rush either, looking to maximize and go for best results.
 

mrpuffins

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Are you wanting a variety of strains? The reason most people run multiple plants is to cut down on veg time. It would take no time at all to fill a screen in an area that small. Trying to keep six plants that small can be done but it will be harder than just one plant spread out.

I have 2 short indicas coming but was going to keep them in separate grows.

Sometimes I keep two going so I can harvest one every month perpetually. My space is 11"x20"x30" so I have some experience in micro growing.
Are those auto seeds? How does that work with light cycles?
 

OldMedUser

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High mrpuffin

Checked out the picture in your blog and I'd put a plant at each end of the tub top them at least once, try for FIMs, and set a screen above them that's almost as wide and deep as the box to maximize surface area for phat colas. Spend a little longer vegging but yield so much more. You don't need some fancy frame or netting. Find a piece of sheep fencing or something similar and do it like this one. Got a half pound off one girl and almost that again in sugar trim and popcorn I toss any bud smaller than the end of my thumb in the sugar pile for hash etc.

She's just filling the screen now. Was a mother I decided to ScroG for the heck of it. :)

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Any questions just fire away.

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Blue brother

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id do 4 sites in the centre and then as they stretch bend them out to the outside. If or when they hit the wall you can just stop training and allow the cola to grow up. You'll end up with a u shape, perfect to utilize a small hps if that floats your boat
 

OldMedUser

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id do 4 sites in the centre and then as they stretch bend them out to the outside. If or when they hit the wall you can just stop training and allow the cola to grow up. You'll end up with a u shape, perfect to utilize a small hps if that floats your boat
I was planning to use a bowl shaped screen to do just that Blue brother. The fencing comes off the roll like that and I have to flatten it out but if I left it curved I could put one 400W hps mounted horizontally in line with the center of the curve and get a lot more surface area covered in the same space as a smaller flat screen. More even light coverage across all the colas too.

I tend to do my DWC ScroGs with just one plant tho two would fill the screen faster and cut down on veg time to get the screen covered. Four gets to messy I think. :)

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mrpuffins

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I was planning to use a bowl shaped screen to do just that Blue brother. The fencing comes off the roll like that and I have to flatten it out but if I left it curved I could put one 400W hps mounted horizontally in line with the center of the curve and get a lot more surface area covered in the same space as a smaller flat screen. More even light coverage across all the colas too.

I tend to do my DWC ScroGs with just one plant tho two would fill the screen faster and cut down on veg time to get the screen covered. Four gets to messy I think. :)

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Taking your advice OldMed

I figure I'll fuck up the scrog somewhat being a finstead time and will better maximize less plants later. Doing 4.

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OldMedUser

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That's a bigger tote than the RubberMaid ones I use. I've made a variety of tops for them over the years. I start usually with the shorter tub that hold 35L when filled to an inch under the net pots then after the stretch is over give them their first nute change, switch to the taller tub that hold 50L and go with the Lucas Formula style of feed with bloom enhancers. If I'm doing a DWC Scrog then it's the taller tub all the way. The lids fit both so no dickin' around moving plants that have their massive root systems intertwined.

You could put a screen quite a bit bigger than the tub on that and have an acre of colas when you're done. :)

My SoG tub. :)

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mrpuffins

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Thats nice, you plant in ALL of those at once?

Mine is much smaller than that, maybe the picture skews it but it is a small tub in a 36" tall grow-cab. tight space.
 

mauricem00

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So here is the size of a box with a six site dwc tubs sitting in it waiting to bubble when the seeds arrive! With the limited space I intend to top and put a screen in and train them.

Debating on a couple factors like number of plants and placement to maximize use of available space.
( Sites are numbered for reference )

Just sites 2 and 3, top them and train the arms the opposite way all the way across.

Don't top but just do some bending and tying and fill sites 1,2,5,6

2,3,6 because three plants is good for the space?

What do you think?

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in that limited space I think I'd only run 2 plants( holes 2 and 5) ant top and scrog to keep the height down
 

OldMedUser

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Thats nice, you plant in ALL of those at once?

Mine is much smaller than that, maybe the picture skews it but it is a small tub in a 36" tall grow-cab. tight space.
I ran that tub and another with 4 bigger pots with 16 plants in each for an experiment and to ween out hermies in a batch of afghani kush beans a buddy gave me. Sprouted 40. One tub never got changed from sprout to finish and the other one got 2 changes. No difference in growth and if anything the unchanged one had bigger and frostier plants.

The blue 12 hole lid is in the front here. Don't know where that one went so I'm gonna have to make another one. Total chaos with all those plants in there tho. :lol: Day 41 flowering. These tubs are 20x16 on top.

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