How much Cal+Mag should I add with Canna Coco nutes?

churchhaze

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This is where you should be getting your calcium (if you grow hydro/coco):

That 50 pound bag costs about 30 dollars at most places. 50 freaking pounds. This is the good shit.



 
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BROBIE

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What's overused is excuses to keep buying cal-mag+

The only thing it's more convenient at is looting your pockets.
You may be over reacting a bit imo, there are much more wasteful areas in this hobby to be concerned with, considering the price you get for the product. I see much more waste and bullshit in lighting for example.
 

cottee

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I don't need an excuse.
Calcium and Magnesium are required elements for proper plant health. They are non movable nutrients and need to be supplemented to avoid deficiencies. It doesn't matter if you buy it in liquid or granular form. It doesn't matter if you buy it by one name or another.
For example, if you go into a an aquarium store you'll find tap water dechlorinator in bottles. You could just as easily purchase sodium thiosulfate and perform your own dilutions to make your own dechlorinator. That's basically what churchhaze is arguing calcium nitrate over using readily available cal-mag. It's the same thing by a different name and you perform your own dilution ratio.
Off the calmag subject. What's this sodiu
I don't need an excuse.
Calcium and Magnesium are required elements for proper plant health. They are non movable nutrients and need to be supplemented to avoid deficiencies. It doesn't matter if you buy it in liquid or granular form. It doesn't matter if you buy it by one name or another.
For example, if you go into a an aquarium store you'll find tap water dechlorinator in bottles. You could just as easily purchase sodium thiosulfate and perform your own dilutions to make your own dechlorinator. That's basically what churchhaze is arguing calcium nitrate over using readily available cal-mag. It's the same thing by a different name and you perform your own dilution ratio.[/QUOTE I know what he's saying. Each to there own. A liter of calmag cost me £15 and last me 2 months so I'm not to fussed about payin it. Off the calmag subject, I'm looking to start using great white bennies and gonna start de chlorinating my water. What's this sodium stuff ur talking bout? Is bubbling the water for 24 hours not suffient?
 

cottee

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I don't need an excuse.
Calcium and Magnesium are required elements for proper plant health. They are non movable nutrients and need to be supplemented to avoid deficiencies. It doesn't matter if you buy it in liquid or granular form. It doesn't matter if you buy it by one name or another.
For example, if you go into a an aquarium store you'll find tap water dechlorinator in bottles. You could just as easily purchase sodium thiosulfate and perform your own dilutions to make your own dechlorinator. That's basically what churchhaze is arguing calcium nitrate over using readily available cal-mag. It's the same thing by a
I know what he's saying dude but I pay £15 for a liter of calmag and it last me like 2 months so I'm not fussed about payin it. Off the calmag subject what's this sodium stuff about. I'm gonna start using great white bennies and will be looking to declorinate my water. Is bubbling the water for 24 hours not suffient?
 

WestDenverPioneer

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Sorry if I wasn't clear. I was making the comparison of buying calmag to buying dechlorinator. If you go into an aquarium store you will see tap water dechlorinator available in bottles just like you see cal-mag in bottles at the grow store. The dechlorinator is just sodium thiosulfate and you can buy a bunch of it cheap, just like calcium nitrate.
I agree that for most people the small bottles of cal-mag are sufficient.
 

churchhaze

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If you feel like cal-mag+ is sufficient, you should also accept that a sucker is born every minute, and this time it's you.

15quid for a liter of water with some calcium nitrate.... great...

or you could pay 1/10th that and get 10 times more of the exact same chemical....

I think you're acting like stubborn fools.

Do you also buy your table salt diluted in water? Just spritz your food with some salty water before eating? Why not? Why don't you buy table salt in the form of saltwater too?

Right, there is no convenience in doing that. Just sprinkle salt on your food, right?
 
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cottee

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If you feel like cal-mag+ is sufficient, you should also accept that a sucker is born every minute, and this time it's you.

15quid for a liter of water with some calcium nitrate.... great...

or you could pay 1/10th that and get 10 times more of the exact same chemical....

I think you're acting like stubborn fools.

Do you also buy your table salt diluted in water? Just spritz your food with some salty water before eating? Why not? Why don't you buy table salt in the form of saltwater too?

Right, there is no convenience in doing that. Just sprinkle salt on your food, right?
dude do work for a company selling that shit or something lol? I do not a have the space for a bag of that nor do I wish to have that shit all over my room because I am bound to spill everywere because I'm a clumsy fucker. I'm sure it works great for ur needs but I'm happy paying £15 a liter. Thanks for the advice. Peace
 

cottee

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If u would like to help me save money could u let me know a good alternative to paying £160 for 5 litres of boost
 

churchhaze

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Do YOU work for the company selling cal-mag+???

dude do work for a company selling that shit or something lol? I do not a have the space for a bag of that nor do I wish to have that shit all over my room because I am bound to spill everywere because I'm a clumsy fucker. I'm sure it works great for ur needs but I'm happy paying £15 a liter. Thanks for the advice. Peace
 

churchhaze

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I'm not saying you have to buy 25 pounds... Get 1 pound. I said it's 2-3 dollars/lb in small amounts. If you get the giant 50 pound bag, it's WAY cheaper.

You're making a terrible analogy. I'm not saying you should buy a large quantity. You seem to think my suggestion is to buy in bulk, which isn't correct.

Nobody goes to a store to buy saltwater.

You'd probably pay 15 dollars for that same 50 cent container of salt if someone put it in a bottle and filled the rest with water.

Please don't distort what I'm saying.

You have to be one dumbass not to buy this: http://www.spiceplace.com/morton-table-salt-25-pounds.php
instead of a 50 cent container of salt in the store. Just sayin'
 
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BROBIE

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Whatever wise one. Yes , if the hydro store sold small containers of Cal and small containers of Mg nitrate with micro's I may buy them . BUT, my time is money so I buy the calmag+ with all that shit, end of story, wow . I'm a dumbass for buying convenience.
 

churchhaze

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I was foolish once. Btw, you aren't buying convenience having to drive to the hydro store. Just have the 5 pounds shipped to your house.

It's actually inconvenient to have magnesium nitrate premixed in. Magnesium sulfate (epsom salt) is fine for a Mg deficiency. The only reason they use magnesium nitrate is because if they tried mixing concentrated calcium nitrate with magnesium sulfate, it would precipitate out gypsum. This doesn't matter if they're separate anyway.

I'm a dumbass for buying convenience.
 
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churchhaze

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Actually, that's not true. I've been designing hydroponic nutrient formulas from nutrient salts for over 5 years now.

It's not shit in a bucket, my formulas are designed to 3 sig figs precision. You have no clue wtf you're talking about.

I design nutrients using CHEMICALS.

Lok
lol this man probly shits in a bucket and puts it in a composter because he doesn't want to waste the nutes cumin out his asshole lol
 
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Helmut79

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So if I happen to have cal+mag around, would 0,5ml per liter be sufficient?

Does it seem reasonable to start adding 0,5ml from the point of flipping to flowering and then up it to 1,5ml for one week along with PK Booster (3 weeks before harvest) ?
 
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