How does God orchestrate such a perfect Symphony?

DaSprout said:

I believe that those intricacies are always occurring. It's just that sometimes we need to see them in order to believe there is alot more to this life. Or reminded of that fact. More questions that we all may feel should be asked and at least make an attempt to answer them. I believe that the universe itself is an intelligence. But when it comes down to us as a single individual. The universe in a whole may not even perceive a single person in a sense. Just cells in a body. Mitochondria. Do I believe that there may be higher intelligences that just watch and see. Maybe even influence. Sure. But our futures are not necessarily set in stone. Probable outcomes for the choices we make. And the words which are spoken. Can lead to even greater possibilities. My condolences on your friends passing.

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Rrog said:

Realism and Materialism (as physics theories) are dead. We're in a hologram. Responds to consciousness. We are consciousness in a hologram. All the world's a stage and we are merely players, sort of thing. Like a grand video game. Not sure the purpose - it varies for everyone.

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DaSprout said:

Yes. We are all truly made of light. Derived through consciousness.

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New Age United said:

Ok so a good friend of mine just passed. He shot himself in his truck while they were mudding. There's this one guy who used to pick on him that is apparently broken up with it and was with him; I'm thinking he said something to him that finally sent him over the edge. But the point is that just today I have noticed at least a hundred synchronicities that obviously point to a higher knowledge and purposeful arrangement.

So this is the question, or questions; does everything happen for a reason? And by reason I don't mean causality I mean a higher purpose, like everything that happens now is for a future purpose, it's like a perfect sequence the universe and the way it unfolds. And if everything does happen for a reason how in the flying fuck does the universe orchestrate it all, now that is infinite intelligence.

@tyler.durden @DaSprout @HeatlessBBQ @VegasWinner @skuba @mikek420 very interested in your opinions for or against me. @Heisenberg

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tyler.durden said:

Sorry about your friend, that sucks. There is no empirical evidence of a higher power or anything steering or guiding the cosmos. That belief is subjective and is based on faith, not evidence. You use the word orchestrate, but there is no evidence of guidance or purpose. There are physical laws set forth after the BB where time and space came into existence, and things are now fulfilling their trajectory of increasing entropy. Things are determined but not determinable, iow things can only happen in the one way that they do, but it is beyond us to know what that is going to be before it occurs. This is coupled with the fact that all credible data is pointing away from the illusion of free will, and the latest cognitive experiments are showing that our brains are wired to make us think anything that we do is our own choice, whether or not that is the case.

Some people find the lack of actual purpose and/or guidance depressing. I find it liberating, for if there is no purpose or meaning forced upon us we are free to choose our own...

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Rrog said:

In moments like this, I vape.

Check out the Double Slit Experiment. Or work on paired electrons.

Realism and Materialism are dead theories.

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tyler.durden said:

Sorry about your friend, that sucks. There is no empirical evidence of a higher power or anything steering or guiding the cosmos. That belief is subjective and is based on faith, not evidence. You use the word orchestrate, but there is no evidence of guidance or purpose. There are physical laws set forth after the BB where time and space came into existence, and things are now fulfilling their trajectory of increasing entropy. Things are determined but not determinable, iow things can only happen in the one way that they do, but it is beyond us to know what that is going to be before it occurs. This is coupled with the fact that all credible data is pointing away from the illusion of free will, and the latest cognitive experiments are showing that our brains are wired to make us think anything that we do is our own choice, whether or not that is the case.

Some people find the lack of actual purpose and/or guidance depressing. I find it liberating, for if there is no purpose or meaning forced upon us we are free to choose our own...

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New Age United said:

It is of course counter-intuitive. You say that the universe is governed by laws and that ultimately we have no free will but then you go on to day we have a choice. Can you please explain?

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DaSprout said:

I believe that those intricacies are always occurring. It's just that sometimes we need to see them in order to believe there is alot more to this life. Or reminded of that fact. More questions that we all may feel should be asked and at least make an attempt to answer them. I believe that the universe itself is an intelligence. But when it comes down to us as a single individual. The universe in a whole may not even perceive a single person in a sense. Just cells in a body. Mitochondria. Do I believe that there may be higher intelligences that just watch and see. Maybe even influence. Sure. But our futures are not necessarily set in stone. Probable outcomes for the choices we make. And the words which are spoken. Can lead to even greater possibilities. My condolences on your friends passing.

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New Age United said:

Ok so a good friend of mine just passed. He shot himself in his truck while they were mudding. There's this one guy who used to pick on him that is apparently broken up with it and was with him; I'm thinking he said something to him that finally sent him over the edge. But the point is that just today I have noticed at least a hundred synchronicities that obviously point to a higher knowledge and purposeful arrangement.

So this is the question, or questions; does everything happen for a reason? And by reason I don't mean causality I mean a higher purpose, like everything that happens now is for a future purpose, it's like a perfect sequence the universe and the way it unfolds. And if everything does happen for a reason how in the flying fuck does the universe orchestrate it all, now that is infinite intelligence.

@tyler.durden @DaSprout @HeatlessBBQ @VegasWinner @skuba @mikek420 very interested in your opinions for or against me. @Heisenberg

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undercovergrow said:

Sorry about your loss of your friend. Suicide sucks. Lost a friend too and this post made me think of him; he was found in his truck with his favorite dog in a local cemetery--he had hooked the exhaust up to his windows.

The comment you made regarding God conducting a symphony has prompted me to post this link:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/how_to_be_saved.html

check the web site out on other topics too. it is a solid source of information that is accurately based upon the Word of God.

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New Age United said:

Time is an illusion but the Earth is very Real

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