How do you go about Cloning Rose Bushes??

My mom has this rose bush that has been growing for about 30+ years.I have tried over and over to clone it with no luck.I have Roottech hormone gel and peat pellets and put them in a dome .they get sprayed twice a day and they always shrivel up and turn brown.Can anyone help me who has had luck with this in the past.

yea,its hard,real hard,it just takes time and time again to root one.first u gotta use a soft green stemed shoot,cut at a 45,remove thorns an in up and dip into solution,put in humidity dome and mist,u also gota trim the leaves as well.

theyre hard to root,just like lilacs(there a bitch)

wackymack said:

yea,its hard,real hard,it just takes time and time again to root one.first u gotta use a soft green stemed shoot,cut at a 45,remove thorns an in up and dip into solution,put in humidity dome and mist,u also gota trim the leaves as well.

theyre hard to root,just like lilacs(there a bitch)

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I did everthing that way.How many leaves do you leave on yours.I've tried many combos with nogo.

Does Rose know that you wanna clone her bush?

leave a few main leaves,but trim them by half.

it could be the genes of that rosebush,cus it could be a hardier plant that doesnt do that well when propgated.try puttin the cutting in a glass of water for like 24hr then go with regular cloning techniqes.what i think is that the water will still feed the shoot with water but no nutes,causing it to start to strive for food,and when it gets introduced to the rooting hormone,it will cause it to root faster just to get nutrients and food.just a thought,and a theory worth trying

wackymack said:

leave a few main leaves,but trim them by half.

it could be the genes of that rosebush,cus it could be a hardier plant that doesnt do that well when propgated.try puttin the cutting in a glass of water for like 24hr then go with regular cloning techniqes.what i think is that the water will still feed the shoot with water but no nutes,causing it to start to strive for food,and when it gets introduced to the rooting hormone,it will cause it to root faster just to get nutrients and food.just a thought,and a theory worth trying

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Thanx.I'll give that a try and see what happens.

there real hard to root,got one to root but didnt keep up wit it and killed it.i love cloning plants,u can sell them back to the nursuries that they originally came from.

wackymack said:

there real hard to root,got one to root but didnt keep up wit it and killed it.i love cloning plants,u can sell them back to the nursuries that they originally came from.

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Sounds cool.I heard that the ones that come from nurseries that have the metal tags are illegal to propogate and breed.Is that true.But who will find out right?If you keep them yourself.

they wont know,u can say u grew them for years and recently decided to clone and share ur magic plants.

mabe try thisThe Rooter Pot - Lee Valley Tools

weedyoo said:

mabe try thisThe Rooter Pot - Lee Valley Tools

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I've heard this done before with a plastic bag full of moist soil wrapped around a branch.Sounds like a plan.I might try the bag technique first.The funds are a little low right now.Thanx for the in put.

korvette1977 said:

Does Rose know that you wanna clone her bush?

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rofl. omg have to have 10 letters in post.

some rose trees wont grow properly unless they are grafted but i think your problem is what your tryin to root them in try 50/50 sharp sand and potting compost (peat free)

I successfully cloned roses using light warrior seed starter compound in small pots. Do the 45deg cut like mentioned earlier, strip off thorns and such, I also use a razor and slice some outer layer of stalk off if it is fiberous. I then place in a deep plastic container cover with plastic wrap to hold high humidity and place under low watt flo gro bulb and leave alone for a week... my luck is usually about one plant for every 4 cuttings root up... then I take out and use a rooting compound like root 66 in a fed watering... leave under flo light for a few weeks and if nice enough repot and move outside and let mother nature take over. Most successful are small rose plants like parade roses, I have done blue girls before though.

i was actually tryin to do the same thing, i placed it under a flouro with some soil and Clonex rooting gel, cut it at a 45, i mist all the time, im thinking i should put the dome over it. what do you think?

I've seen old timers do this by just laying a brick or something over a low branch so it touches the ground. They nick the side of it and apply the root hormone but leave it attached to the stalk. After a month or so you should have roots and ready to cut her from the main bush and repot (= I had alot of problems keeping roses alive long enough to root but since I started doing this, it's not problem. This also works with trees and anything else that is hard to get rooted.

Propagating roses from cuttings is best done in the spring, when the plants are vigorous and the weather is cooler. Select a young, tender shoot . Old, woody stems will not grow well. Look for one that does not yet have a bud on it. If there is a bud, snip it off carefully. With a sharp knife, cut the shoot four to six inches long. Plant the cutting one to two inches deep in your flowerbed in an area clean of weeds and other plants. As to it's location, make sure to plan ahead. Ideally, it should be placed where you want it to permanently reside, and avoid the possibility of transplant shock from moving it at a later date. Water it well, and cover with a glass or plastic jar or container. The jar acts as a mini-greenhouse, encouraging better growth by keeping the temperature higher, especially at night, and retaining moisture and humidity.

The success rate of cuttings can be low for a number of reasons, especially for new and inexperienced growers. We recommend you start three or four cuttings. If they all develop, you can replant the extras, or give them to a greatful friend.

Check on your new rose bush every several days to make sure there is enough moisture in the soil. Water if the soil appears dry. Remember, the new roots will not be deep. Use of a little liquid fertilizer will help, but is not a requirement. Remove the jar from the plant during the daytime, if the temperature approaches 75 degrees or higher.

Do not worry if the shoot appears dormant for a while. All of the activity is really happening underground. It is focusing upon developing a root system, and does not have the energy or root support to develop new growth. After a couple of weeks, the shoot will begin to grow.

Once the new rose bush has begun to grow, you can remove the jar you placed over it.

WORD OF WARNING: it is ilegal too clone/cutting a hybrid patient rose. yup it is true some roses are protected via copyright/patient.

another note, some types of rose are harder too clone than others Floribundas are one type i know are hard too take cuttings.

Thank you for your clarification Tamzi good sire; +ReP

Diknuts said:

My mom has this rose bush that has been growing for about 30+ years.I have tried over and over to clone it with no luck.I have Roottech hormone gel and peat pellets and put them in a dome .they get sprayed twice a day and they always shrivel up and turn brown.Can anyone help me who has had luck with this in the past.

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it possible for you to try air layering?

Diknuts said:

Sounds cool.I heard that the ones that come from nurseries that have the metal tags are illegal to propogate and breed.Is that true.But who will find out right?If you keep them yourself.

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"Patented" breeds of plants are illegal to sell and I would not do that. As far as starting a clone, it may be technically "illegal" but I say if you own the plant then you can do whatever you want with it. No one is coming into your backyard and checking plants for patent infringement anytime soon so no worries about that but there is a moral line in the sand and I draw mine at selling patented plants.