how do organic grower's treat a calcium def in dwc???

scunkworm

Active Member
Hi everyone,
I'm running my second attemp at dwc' i was going to go organic with it but i read loads of things saying thats its not wise to go organic in a dwc, then i seen things like you can use bio bizz in dwc' anyways it confused the shit out of me so im unsure as which way to go from here? I've got both kinds of nutes here, some bio grow/bloom/top max, and also some greendream no,1' one part hydro nutes, coz only now my second set of true leaves are coming through, so ive got time to do abit of reading up about going organic in my dwc' the first set of leaves are abit wavey and on this nute def sheet i got it says that is calcium def so i was just woundering how to fix it?? I found one sheet that says to add any complete fertilizer with calcum in it and that will do, how do you organic growers manage with this problem? plus how would you also deal with a cal-mag problem? i'd be really gratefull if someone could shed some light on this matter for me, thanks guys scunk
 

Buggins

Active Member
epsom salts work for magnesium and sulphur deficiencies, and they dissolve in water quite easily. You can also dissolve some dolomite lime into the water to treat cal-mag deficiency, but be aware that it will buffer your ph, so you might need to bring it down a little for DWC.
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
epsom salts work for magnesium and sulphur deficiencies, and they dissolve in water quite easily. You can also dissolve some dolomite lime into the water to treat cal-mag deficiency, but be aware that it will buffer your ph, so you might need to bring it down a little for DWC.
I'm not master DWC grower, but I'm pretty sure that completely organic DWC is probably not possible. I don't think you can stick compost tea in a bucket and aerate it.You'd probably need to use beneficial bacteria in there to help you keep it manageable. I'll point you in the right direction. I highly suggest you read this whole thread, but at least read the first post.
Good luck bo.
https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/361430-dwc-root-slime-cure-aka.html

PM Heisenberg. He's a pro when it comes to DWC and he's online now.
 

Nullis

Moderator
I don't think you can stick compost tea in a bucket and aerate it.
That's pretty much how one would go about making a basic compost tea in the first place (compost with water and molasses aerated in a bucket), so I don't see why not. On second thought your air-stones\equipment would become encrusted in bacterial bio-slime, sooner rather than later, and everything would have to be cleaned and solutions replenished daily or every other day. DWC isn't my game, though, wouldn't know the second thing about it.

Lime wont dissolve well in water, anyways, so what Buggins suggested isn't likely to work unfortunately. There is a product or two I used to use, though, and they seem like they'd be perfect for hydro-organics: Organicare (by Botanicare) Calplex and Huvega. Calpex is quite inexpensive and it is really just liquid\soluble calcium carbonate. Huvega is a more complex product, but it contains magnesium and fulvic acids.
 

Buggins

Active Member
Lime wont dissolve well in water, anyways, so what Buggins suggested isn't likely to work unfortunately.
The dolomite lime I use is quite well ground, and actually dissolves pretty easily in hot water. Of course, you'll always end up with some coarse granules that won't dissolve, but taking a mortar and pestle to the powder beforehand solves that problem for me.

I will admit though, it isn't the most elegant solution.
 

scunkworm

Active Member
Hey guys thanks for the reply's, i knew about the epsom salts for mag but didnt know it could also be used for sulphur' as for do;omite lime i just cant seem to find it anywhere and you could say ive looked around a fair bit aswell, i remember reading something about crushing egg shells and putting them in the ground with the soil and that will add calcium to the plant, i wounder would it work by crushing them and leaving them to soak in water for afew days, would that water contain calcium which could be used in hydro? im most probs thinking right outside the box here lol
Its like cal-mag its got alot of ingredients init when i looked up what was in there, i only thought it was a simple mix of epsom salts and some kind of calcium thing but no where near theres fucking loads init lol. I've always thought about organics and how them growers manage with the old cal-mag prob' ive red afew threads about growers who say they are 100% organic nothing with cems at all but if one of they'er plants gets the cal-mag def what do they do to deal with it? or is it a case of there's nothing else for it cal-mag has to be added? Anyway guys im startting rabble on here lol, again thanks for the replys scunk
 

Buggins

Active Member
If you want to go 100% organic then you may want to consider switching to soil. With a good solid organic soil mix you can get yields comparable to hydro but far better taste and smell. Just a consideration anyway. At the very least it would be much less work than hydro, and less messy too. Organics in hydro always require more maintenance to keep everything clean and healthy.
 
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