How do i transfer my plants in my DWC tub to larger net pot?

DAZBEAST · Mar 15, 2010

My plants are almost a month into Veg in a 14 gallon tub DWC tub with 3.75 in net cups. I want to make the switch from the DWC tub to the DWC bucket with a much larger net pot but the root growth is already substantial so how do I make the transfer??

I plan on LSTing them but it is hard to tie them down when they are so close to eachother, hence why Im making to switch to buckets and larger net pots.

Thanks
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CLOSETGROWTH · Mar 15, 2010

DAZBEAST said:
My plants are almost a month into Veg in a 14 gallon tub DWC tub with 3.75 in net cups. I want to make the switch from the DWC tub to the DWC bucket with a much larger net pot but the root growth is already substantial so how do I make the transfer??

I plan on LSTing them but it is hard to tie them down when they are so close to eachother, hence why Im making to switch to buckets and larger net pots.

Thanks

Very carefully :roll:

Rusty Crutch · Mar 15, 2010

CLOSETGROWTH said:
Very carefully

You could really stress the plant out by breaking off a lot of roots at once. Have you thought about just putting the net into the larger net with hydroton separating them.
I usually start my plants off in rockwool cubes in small net pots and transplant them straight into 20L buckets with hydroton.

snutter · Mar 15, 2010

sorry bro, but I don't really think it's possible. I too have run in to this problem and could NOT think of a good way to do the transfer. Once the root system gets entwined in the mesh basket, there's just no good way to get them out with out tearing them up and stressing out the plant. And even if you could, there's the added problem of getting them in to the bigger basket.

You'll just have to deal with it the way it is for this grow and on the next one use bigger pots to start out with... The lesson I learned.. Good luck.

-S

DAZBEAST · Mar 15, 2010

snutter said:
sorry bro, but I don't really think it's possible. I too have run in to this problem and could NOT think of a good way to do the transfer. Once the root system gets entwined in the mesh basket, there's just no good way to get them out with out tearing them up and stressing out the plant. And even if you could, there's the added problem of getting them in to the bigger basket.

You'll just have to deal with it the way it is for this grow and on the next one use bigger pots to start out with... The lesson I learned.. Good luck.

-S

Damn. I guess Im stuck but I'll just have to make the best out of it. :cuss:

Thanks bro. Defly a lesson learned!

MaloMAL · Feb 11, 2017

DAZBEAST said:
Damn. I guess Im stuck but I'll just have to make the best out of it.

Thanks bro. Defly a lesson learned!

Mind me asking how'd your plants turn out after leaving them in the 3.75in Net pot. I also have made this mistake and cannot figure a way out of it lol, thanks

OldMedUser · Feb 12, 2017

I do DWC with the 3.75s and the 6" and there is no real difference to the plants. You have a lighter support base for the plant but should be using a screen of some kind to support the colas anyway. All the roots that do the feeding are in the tub anyhow. Any roots in the pots are just support and conduits for the water and food and don't absorb nutrients themselves. Another reason not to use top feed for DWC once roots are growing out of the pots.

I'd just get a RubberMaid tub and cut holes for that size pot and swap them over if I wanted a bigger tank for the plants. 50L of water in the taller tubs when filled to an inch below the bottom of the pots. That's about 12.5 USG so no bigger than what you are using anyway.

Unlike pot size when growing in soil the net pot size has no real bearing on the plant's yield.

:peace:

MaloMAL · Feb 13, 2017

OldMedUser said:
I do DWC with the 3.75s and the 6" and there is no real difference to the plants. You have a lighter support base for the plant but should be using a screen of some kind to support the colas anyway. All the roots that do the feeding are in the tub anyhow. Any roots in the pots are just support and conduits for the water and food and don't absorb nutrients themselves. Another reason not to use top feed for DWC once roots are growing out of the pots.

I'd just get a RubberMaid tub and cut holes for that size pot and swap them over if I wanted a bigger tank for the plants. 50L of water in the taller tubs when filled to an inch below the bottom of the pots. That's about 12.5 USG so no bigger than what you are using anyway.

Unlike pot size when growing in soil the net pot size has no real bearing on the plant's yield.

Awesome, yea I didn't even know that my man until yesterday evening. I asked what was some yellow hook looking yoyo device was for, the horticulture shop employee said its used to hold up colas. Thanks for the extra insight.

Wow, wish I'd saw this yesterday. I've went on a purchases these really cheap Net pots about 6 inches. I plan on just putting the 3.75 inches inside the bigger one and filling it with Hydroton, good idea ?

Wow I learn something new. I had no idea,. Where do you read these FACTS from? I would love the resource needed to get some more knowledge. I need PLENTY. I'm having issues right now as we speak... smh thanks Old Med ! Your tomatoes truly are rotten lol

OldMedUser · Feb 13, 2017

MaloMAL said:
Awesome, yea I didn't even know that my man until yesterday evening. I asked what was some yellow hook looking yoyo device was for, the horticulture shop employee said its used to hold up colas. Thanks for the extra insight.

Wow, wish I'd saw this yesterday. I've went on a purchases these really cheap Net pots about 6 inches. I plan on just putting the 3.75 inches inside the bigger one and filling it with Hydroton, good idea ?

Wow I learn something new. I had no idea,. Where do you read these FACTS from? I would love the resource needed to get some more knowledge. I need PLENTY. I'm having issues right now as we speak... smh thanks Old Med ! Your tomatoes truly are rotten lol

If you are going to put the small pots in bigger ones you'll have to chop the roots short to about 3 or 4" below the bottom of the pots. I'd kinda jiggle them into the larger pot before putting any hydroton in so some of the roots protrude from the bottom of the bigger pots then fill around the small pots with balls. Don't worry, the roots will grow back rapidly.

I read plenty of FACTS from grow bibles, internet and various magazines. I get practice from 40+ DWC grows since 2001.

I found a great spot to download FREE POT BOOKS . I downloaded a grow bible first and got lots more. Books looks great and complete like the real ones I have here. No web site but just a page of links. Just right click on what you want and then "Save Link As" to download so they don't open first as many are 50+ megs. They got lots. Enjoy.

:peace:

MaloMAL · Feb 13, 2017

OldMedUser said:
If you are going to put the small pots in bigger ones you'll have to chop the roots short to about 3 or 4" below the bottom of the pots. I'd kinda jiggle them into the larger pot before putting any hydroton in so some of the roots protrude from the bottom of the bigger pots then fill around the small pots with balls. Don't worry, the roots will grow back rapidly.

I read plenty of FACTS from grow bibles, internet and various magazines. I get practice from 40+ DWC grows since 2001.

I found a great spot to download FREE POT BOOKS . I downloaded a grow bible first and got lots more. Books looks great and complete like the real ones I have here. No web site but just a page of links. Just right click on what you want and then "Save Link As" to download so they don't open first as many are 50+ megs. They got lots. Enjoy.

Lol good thing I mentioned it. Man the roots are FUCKING LONG I took a photo and compared it to my last Grow during the same exact time lapse and I am doing FAR better.
Literally I wish I can take a photo. The roots are massive. If I cut them short to 4in I would be literally removing about 16-18 in lol.......
Yea I know, I was experimenting with a shit seed by root topping and wow amazing results. I'm glad the shit seed is doing good but I have it in a big dome. I can't transfer it yet,.....

Yea I'm a big fan of encouraging the roots lol hahah so in other words I've done that where I carefully sift the long tap root down the Net pot. Works every time. In a day or 2 I end up with colonies. I also use tarantula which provides added benefits to root colony and nutrient consumption. As well as beneficial bacteria

OldMedUser · Feb 13, 2017

I've never used beneficial bacteria with DWC. I used to use peroxide twice a week before I built a DIY chiller out of a water cooler and can keep the nute temps down to 65F. I only ever had root rot before when I used clones that had been rooted in real dirt and suspect the problem came from the dirt. So I make sure to use plain ProMix BX that doesn't have myco in it to root clones destined for DWC.

Stuff like Voodoo Juice or Tarantula is way too pricey for me. If I want to get extra bennies in my potted plants I just use our tap water that comes out of the dugout on my property. It's filtered down to 5 microns but has no sterilization used at all so should be chock full of bennies. Lots of plant growth, frogs and little fish in there so should be a healthy dose of bacteria, fungi etc in every glass. I add some molasses now and then to keep them happy in the pots.

:peace:

MaloMAL · Feb 13, 2017

OldMedUser said:
I've never used beneficial bacteria with DWC. I used to use peroxide twice a week before I built a DIY chiller out of a water cooler and can keep the nute temps down to 65F. I only ever had root rot before when I used clones that had been rooted in real dirt and suspect the problem came from the dirt. So I make sure to use plain ProMix BX that doesn't have myco in it to root clones destined for DWC.

Stuff like Voodoo Juice or Tarantula is way too pricey for me. If I want to get extra bennies in my potted plants I just use our tap water that comes out of the dugout on my property. It's filtered down to 5 microns but has no sterilization used at all so should be chock full of bennies. Lots of plant growth, frogs and little fish in there so should be a healthy dose of bacteria, fungi etc in every glass. I add some molasses now and then to keep them happy in the pots.

Man I would love to hear more about how to keep my temperatures down. That's my pep peeve man ! I got it on sale for 8$ a liter. Liquidated shit you know for the local garden shop. Wow send me some of that water hahaha

ingenioustm · Feb 14, 2017

I had the same issue ; roots are too bound to upgrade . I had 6 plants in 3 inch pots in a 5 gallon res . I got a 19 gallon tub and cut a hole just below the size of my existing "cover" into the new cover . Now my old cover sits on top of my new 19 gallon res .

MaloMAL · Feb 14, 2017

ingenioustm said:
I had the same issue ; roots are too bound to upgrade . I had 6 plants in 3 inch pots in a 5 gallon res . I got a 19 gallon tub and cut a hole just below the size of my existing "cover" into the new cover . Now my old cover sits on top of my new 19 gallon res .

I was thinking cut the net on the bottom but I fucked up last night and after doing a res change added tarantula which was necessary. And my roots were filled with this sludge man. I rinsed them rinsed the totes dumped the nutes flushed my plants with pH 5.8 temped water. The leaves are all pointing down. Couldn't be anymore upset right now. But I look into the roots the sludge went away. I know it was due to the tarantula

ingenioustm · Feb 14, 2017

MaloMAL said:
I was thinking cut the net on the bottom but I fucked up last night and after doing a res change added tarantula which was necessary. And my roots were filled with this sludge man. I rinsed them rinsed the totes dumped the nutes flushed my plants with pH 5.8 temped water. The leaves are all pointing down. Couldn't be anymore upset right now. But I look into the roots the sludge went away. I know it was due to the tarantula

How much T did you use . I use 3ml per gallon ever week .

Budley Doright · Feb 24, 2017

Not sure if you need to put them in a larger pot. Also In my experience the worst thing you can do is fuck with the roots, it's a major setback when ever I have done anything with them. The only issue I have with using 3" pots is light has a tendency to leak through so stick with 6", never had an issue with stability using a smaller pot though. If I were you I wouldn't stress about this grow and switch up the next time. Also there are many beneficial products that are very cost effective that work well, good luck.

MaloMAL · Feb 24, 2017

ingenioustm said:
How much T did you use . I use 3ml per gallon ever week .

Ill look over my notes. I'll give you the amounts I added and during which time in the plants life and the progression made. I can tell you off the back. In soil it's okay to add that much within a week. Although, you under the recommended amount anyways. That amount per week will add up. It will cause problems with the leaves that isn't very common but will occur. The foliage will sometimes soon appear disintegrated as though it's was chewed apart (NOT HOLES) I mean excavated. When you take a 60x digital microscope which I used you see no SIGN at all of pest. When I revise the notes and calculated the amounts I added of tarantula. I notice a pattern where when I added too much the foliage would appear as described. I recommend being a devour tarantula user to only allow the plants to consumer enough until you see that HUGE root station along with colonies that have formed due to the tarantula. After that STOP it for awhile until flowering.

MaloMAL · Feb 24, 2017

Budley Doright said:
Not sure if you need to put them in a larger pot. Also In my experience the worst thing you can do is fuck with the roots, it's a major setback when ever I have done anything with them. The only issue I have with using 3" pots is light has a tendency to leak through so stick with 6", never had an issue with stability using a smaller pot though. If I were you I wouldn't stress about this grow and switch up the next time. Also there are many beneficial products that are very cost effective that work well, good luck.

Unfortunately, 5/6 derived from a highly hermphroditic plant. I was under the great influence that I would obtain one solidified female among those 100 seeds I had. It is hard to say that none were female. Of those Grow where the plants were in 3" pots, only one survived. It was derived from a female plant (Critical Kush)ñ that seed is the only one that remains and is now flowering. I also came across a major set back with water temperature in my deep Water Culture that lead to that ALMOST lead to the plants demise. Fortunately, I transfered it into soil and it is making it VERY well. Thank you.

Budley Doright · Feb 24, 2017

MaloMAL said:
Ill look over my notes. I'll give you the amounts I added and during which time in the plants life and the progression made. I can tell you off the back. In soil it's okay to add that much within a week. Although, you under the recommended amount anyways. That amount per week will add up. It will cause problems with the leaves that isn't very common but will occur. The foliage will sometimes soon appear disintegrated as though it's was chewed apart (NOT HOLES) I mean excavated. When you take a 60x digital microscope which I used you see no SIGN at all of pest. When I revise the notes and calculated the amounts I added of tarantula. I notice a pattern where when I added too much the foliage would appear as described. I recommend being a devour tarantula user to only allow the plants to consumer enough until you see that HUGE root station along with colonies that have formed due to the tarantula. After that STOP it for awhile until flowering.

Never used tarantula but seems strange that you could feed to much. It's just very expensive beneficial right? Did your root rot happen when using it as well?

MaloMAL · Feb 24, 2017

Budley Doright said:
Never used tarantula but seems strange that you could feed to much. It's just very expensive beneficial right? Did your root rot happen when using it as well?

Im sure someone here would argue this of course. Maybe it was the strain. Not sure. I'm just relating a pattern to what seem to be due to excessive tarantula I was adding during week 3-5 Veg. Lol I like long VEG cycles :leaf:

could be for some. I got lucky buying two 1L bottles for 8$ each. Storevwas liquidating due to closure...

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