How do cops find marijuana with helicopters?

kiwipaulie

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They dont do it in NZ so they probably dont do it anywhere... Ya, thats pretty solid logic. Maybe theres a small chance that you dont know exactly how they do everything in all parts of the world?
Lol you have no idea who I am. I have lived all over the world and know enough about different law enforcement tactics, as I've been avoiding them all my life and they still have yet to manage sticking one charge to me.
 
This whole thing started when i posted some information that i know to be true. Its not speculation, its not conjecture, its fact, gleaned directly from the source. I will take a pic of the helo when it flies over this fall as it has every year for the 15 years ive been here and i'll post it. I have never been to NZ but have learned plenty in my 56 years and one of those things is that no matter what you post on the internet, some pot head will always argue with you. Hey NZ, the sky is blue! Go!
 

ISK

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This whole thing started when i posted some information that i know to be true. Its not speculation, its not conjecture, its fact, gleaned directly from the source. I will take a pic of the helo when it flies over this fall as it has every year for the 15 years ive been here and i'll post it. I have never been to NZ but have learned plenty in my 56 years and one of those things is that no matter what you post on the internet, some pot head will always argue with you. Hey NZ, the sky is blue! Go!
The sky is not blue, it actually black, the blue is merely a reflection of sunlight
 
Yes, I am clearly illiterate and ignorant. Perhaps a reply about my mother would be appropriate. You have me at a disadvantage as i forgot how to debate like a child long ago.
 

brimck325

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This whole thing started when i posted some information that i know to be true. Its not speculation, its not conjecture, its fact, gleaned directly from the source. I will take a pic of the helo when it flies over this fall as it has every year for the 15 years ive been here and i'll post it. I have never been to NZ but have learned plenty in my 56 years and one of those things is that no matter what you post on the internet, some pot head will always argue with you. Hey NZ, the sky is blue! Go!
i wont argue with you!
 

Kingrow1

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The sky is not blue, it actually black, the blue is merely a reflection of sunlight
The sea and sky are blue thanks to the effect of Raleigh Scattering not light reflection, its also the reason the sky can look red like in the evening.
 

vostok

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Lol you have no idea who I am. I have lived all over the world and know enough about different law enforcement tactics, as I've been avoiding them all my life and they still have yet to manage sticking one charge to me.
Here's the flip:

Marijuana traffickers used infrared cameras to locate and 'steal' crops from grow houses
In a twist to the lucrative criminal growth industry of indoor marijuana crops, two men have admitted using heat-detection cameras to locate and remove plants from suburban houses.

A Melbourne court heard that Danny Joe Szabo and Jano Matar used FLIRs - forward looking infrared radiometers - to detect "heat emitted from residences in the growing process".

Prosecutor Hayley Bate said that FLIR heat detection guns were "commonly used to locate a (marijuana) grow house emitting a strong heat signature".

Ms Bate said police intercepted calls between the pair that revealed marijuana was being located by identifying the location of "grow houses".

Ms Bate told Melbourne Magistrates Court this week that in a call on November 18 last year Szabo questioned Matar about using a "gun" the previous night and was told that there are "pictures" and "old ones" and "it showed us".

She told magistrate Ann Collins that investigators identified the term "gun" as code for a FLIR device and that "pictures" were obtained of previous crop houses Szabo had visited.

In another call, Matar questioned Szabo if anything was "out there" and that he has "two cameras on the go".

"Both discuss looking in the Point Cook area and state they will get the cameras working both sides of the street," Ms Bate said.

When police later arrested Matar at home in St Albans, they found two FLIR heat detection camera boxes in a garage and a FLIR camera in a car in the driveway that were stolen earlier in a burglary.

Matar, 37, formerly of St Albans, and Szabo, 22, formerly of Melton West, each pleaded guilty to trafficking marjiuana and other offences.

Ms Bate, who did not oppose a defence application for the charges to be heard by a magistrate, said Szabo was the target of a police operation.

William Barker, for Szabo, said his client, who then had drug issues that included ice use, had been "couch surfing" but had a limited criminal history.

Mr Barker said a number of others had been involved in the offending and that Szabo's 187 days on remand since his arrest was his first time in jail.

Taking into account his time on remand, Ms Collins released him on a 12 month community corrections order (CCO) with conditions that included treatment and rehabilitation for drugs, judicial monitoring and supervision with assessment for mental health issues.

James Mortley, for Matar, said his client's role in the offending had been to "strip" the plants and to cut and dry them and in return he was paid after providing the drug to others.

Mr Mortley said Matar, who had an ice problem and a "severe" addiction to gambling, had used proceeds from the "opportunist" offending to support his lifestyle and he conceded that he had benefited from and "taken advantage of the illegal enterprise of others".

Ms Collins said she was not prepared to release him on a CCO before she received a forensic assessment.

(http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/marijuana-traffickers-used-infrared-cameras-to-locate-and-steal-crops-from-grow-houses-20150618-ghrajw.html)

ps: I think that we should consider that us the membership, come from many different countries, different bullshit laws, but swim in one direction with one common cause ..lol
 

Slab

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Would have loved to bail those two out of jail. An automobile tire around the neck and a can of fuel, won't need any infra red to see that heat.
 

kiwipaulie

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Here's the flip:

Marijuana traffickers used infrared cameras to locate and 'steal' crops from grow houses
In a twist to the lucrative criminal growth industry of indoor marijuana crops, two men have admitted using heat-detection cameras to locate and remove plants from suburban houses.

A Melbourne court heard that Danny Joe Szabo and Jano Matar used FLIRs - forward looking infrared radiometers - to detect "heat emitted from residences in the growing process".

Prosecutor Hayley Bate said that FLIR heat detection guns were "commonly used to locate a (marijuana) grow house emitting a strong heat signature".

Ms Bate said police intercepted calls between the pair that revealed marijuana was being located by identifying the location of "grow houses".

Ms Bate told Melbourne Magistrates Court this week that in a call on November 18 last year Szabo questioned Matar about using a "gun" the previous night and was told that there are "pictures" and "old ones" and "it showed us".

She told magistrate Ann Collins that investigators identified the term "gun" as code for a FLIR device and that "pictures" were obtained of previous crop houses Szabo had visited.

In another call, Matar questioned Szabo if anything was "out there" and that he has "two cameras on the go".

"Both discuss looking in the Point Cook area and state they will get the cameras working both sides of the street," Ms Bate said.

When police later arrested Matar at home in St Albans, they found two FLIR heat detection camera boxes in a garage and a FLIR camera in a car in the driveway that were stolen earlier in a burglary.

Matar, 37, formerly of St Albans, and Szabo, 22, formerly of Melton West, each pleaded guilty to trafficking marjiuana and other offences.

Ms Bate, who did not oppose a defence application for the charges to be heard by a magistrate, said Szabo was the target of a police operation.

William Barker, for Szabo, said his client, who then had drug issues that included ice use, had been "couch surfing" but had a limited criminal history.

Mr Barker said a number of others had been involved in the offending and that Szabo's 187 days on remand since his arrest was his first time in jail.

Taking into account his time on remand, Ms Collins released him on a 12 month community corrections order (CCO) with conditions that included treatment and rehabilitation for drugs, judicial monitoring and supervision with assessment for mental health issues.

James Mortley, for Matar, said his client's role in the offending had been to "strip" the plants and to cut and dry them and in return he was paid after providing the drug to others.

Mr Mortley said Matar, who had an ice problem and a "severe" addiction to gambling, had used proceeds from the "opportunist" offending to support his lifestyle and he conceded that he had benefited from and "taken advantage of the illegal enterprise of others".

Ms Collins said she was not prepared to release him on a CCO before she received a forensic assessment.

(http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/marijuana-traffickers-used-infrared-cameras-to-locate-and-steal-crops-from-grow-houses-20150618-ghrajw.html)

ps: I think that we should consider that us the membership, come from many different countries, different bullshit laws, but swim in one direction with one common cause ..lol
Interesting story. Cheeky little fuckers lol

I'm not saying it cant be used. Just the logistics for police using it doesn't make any sense to locate growers.

Imagine doing it in winter considering an average heater is 2000w. Fuck they would think my house was a massive grow house.

On the flip side, it could be useful in summer
 

KryptoBud

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That's good and all. But arnt we talking from the air?
What's the difference? The point is police cannot search your home based on FLIR. It doesn't matter if it's from the sidewalk, helicopter, car, or the Hubble telescope. It goes on to say police are instructed to have probable prior to using thermal imaging. It violates the 4th amendment in the US.
 

vostok

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Also anyone who thinks they really use thermo tech to search for weed doesn't understand the cost of running a chopper

Don't you be so Blas'e, these eurochoppers, cost a bomb see them as BMW's of the sky, drug sorties are often written up as
'training missions' that seem to occur most at the end of summer, the track is selected by the 'cop' which can sweep 200-300 locations per hour
with a 4 hour fuel range thats most of one huge city can be covered...easy
(http://www.airforce.mil.nz/about-us/what-we-do/aircraft/nh90.htm)
 

kiwipaulie

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Don't you be so Blas'e, these eurochoppers, cost a bomb see them as BMW's of the sky, drug sorties are often written up as
'training missions' that seem to occur most at the end of summer, the track is selected by the 'cop' which can sweep 200-300 locations per hour
with a 4 hour fuel range thats most of one huge city can be covered...easy
(http://www.airforce.mil.nz/about-us/what-we-do/aircraft/nh90.htm)
Yip they certainly use them from the air at harvest time for OUTDOOR plants. Not indoor with flir. That's what I'm getting at.

It is totally worth using them outdoors over here as weed stands out like a sore thumb.
 

kiwipaulie

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What's the difference? The point is police cannot search your home based on FLIR. It doesn't matter if it's from the sidewalk, helicopter, car, or the Hubble telescope. It goes on to say police are instructed to have probable prior to using thermal imaging. It violates the 4th amendment in the US.
Totally agree with you. What I was meaning was this article looks like they used a hand held and I just thought we were talking from air. But I agree it shouldn't matter
 

kiwipaulie

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Don't you be so Blas'e, these eurochoppers, cost a bomb see them as BMW's of the sky, drug sorties are often written up as
'training missions' that seem to occur most at the end of summer, the track is selected by the 'cop' which can sweep 200-300 locations per hour
with a 4 hour fuel range thats most of one huge city can be covered...easy
(http://www.airforce.mil.nz/about-us/what-we-do/aircraft/nh90.htm)
Are you from down under vostok?
 
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