How Bernie Sanders would transform the nation

TBoneJack

TBoneJack

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Elwood Diggler said:
as opposed to them taking it seriously on borrowed money? i'd rather give free tuition to those that want the education than watch a bunch of kids inflate another debt bubble that will really fuck the economy up
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And where do you propose we get the money to pay ever-spiraling college costs for the masses?
 
Elwood Diggler

Elwood Diggler

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TBoneJack said:
And where do you propose we get the money to pay ever-spiraling college costs for the masses?
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the pentagon budget would be a great start. the next thing would be to take a look at the top heavy administrations as well as their fucked up tuition raises every fucking year.

how about a 10% tax on gross profits to every corp that offshores jobs or hides their corp presence offshore to avoid taxes.

how about a 10% tax on gross profits for all wall st firms. after all, they came within a cunthair of destroying the economy and got paid for it.
 
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Harrekin

Harrekin

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TBoneJack said:
And where do you propose we get the money to pay ever-spiraling college costs for the masses?
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The costs are spiraling because the Govt guarantees the loans.

Colleges will charge 100% of what they know you can pay.

God damn it America, how many times do I have to say it?

The cost of educating young people is far far less than the gain from them having access to higher paying work and becoming a net plus in the economy, rather than becoming dependent on welfare "top ups" to their wages.

It doesn't matter if your Democrat, Republican or Libertarian...it's a very simple numbers game.
 
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Dyster

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Harrekin said:
I compared the increasingly totalitarian powers and treatment of innocent civilians between Nazi Germany and America under the Patriot Act.

You seem pretty dumb.


Might not be gassing Jews but you're bombing enough brown people in the Middle East...
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Mulsim's are beheading children, burning people alive, want everybody dead but Muslims.Europe will be run over run in 5 years,
See who is dumb then skippy. Time for your mother to get you up for day camp.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Dyster said:
Mulsim's are beheading children, burning people alive, want everybody dead but Muslims.Europe will be run over run in 5 years,
See who is dumb then skippy. Time for your mother to get you up for day camp.
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And Russia is sorting them out, Russia are actually the good guys...never thought I'd say that.

And good luck to Muslims invading here, British couldnt hold onto us and Hitler didn't even try.
 
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Dyster

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Harrekin said:
And Russia is sorting them out, Russia are actually the good guys...never thought I'd say that.

And good luck to Muslims invading here, British couldnt hold onto us and Hitler didn't even try.
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Your a very silly boy, time to take out the family dog for his walk wow.
Head of the KGB good guy, you, anti American fools will say anything to try to prove
A point, wow.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Dyster said:
Your a very silly boy, time to take out the family dog for his walk wow.
Head of the KGB good guy, you, anti American fools will say anything to try to prove
A point, wow.
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Well he is fighting ISIS with the objective of "wiping them out".

Obama just authorised the transfer of more weapons to the region for "moderate rebels".

Pro-tip: Moderate rebels dont exist, why are ISIS driving hummers and using American built, tripod mounted, anti tank missiles?

Be objective instead of being a blind nationalist, blind nationalism is EXACTLY what let the Nazis into power after the Treaty of Versailles.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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TBoneJack said:
And where do you propose we get the money to pay ever-spiraling college costs for the masses?
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Exactly. How ironical that you must have a capitalist, free enterprise system for Sander's stupid socialist programs to work. You have to start with something before you can take it away. ;)

I don't know who's more of a joke - Sanders or the sucker bets he's playing to. His game is buying votes just like Obama did - with "free" stuff. Losers want free stuff and the politician's propaganda works.....on some.

There is NO free lunch.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Padawanbater2 said:
People will vote for her because the other options are worse

I just read a poll recently that said 85% of republicans would vote for George W. Bush as president again if they could, so that leads me to believe the kinds of republicans who voted in this poll are incapable of objective reasoning. We saw the same thing last presidential election cycle here on RIU, conservatives straight up denied the polling data before the results were in. Same thing with climate change, same thing with racism, same thing with sexism and income inequality... you guys simply don't believe these things exist because of the media you consume and political ideology. Then when the objective hand of reason comes in and proves you wrong a la Kim Davis, the Pope siding with climate change and against crony capitalism and income and wealth inequality, the expected new speaker of the house accidentally outing the republican party for politicizing the investigation into Benghazi, et al, you denounce judges on the Supreme Court as "activist" and say shit like "the Pope shouldn't talk about science" - even though he's perfectly qualified holding a degree in chemistry.

Sound familiar? You cherry pick what you want to accept and deny and discard what you don't like. None of it is objective, and that's why the republicans will lose another chance at the white house in 2016.
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I fear- and that's exactly what it is- the lowest common voting denominator in this country. I think Donald Chump leading in the polls says a lot about how low that common denominator really is.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Elwood Diggler said:
the pentagon budget would be a great start. the next thing would be to take a look at the top heavy administrations as well as their fucked up tuition raises every fucking year.

how about a 10% tax on gross profits to every corp that offshores jobs or hides their corp presence offshore to avoid taxes.

how about a 10% tax on gross profits for all wall st firms. after all, they came within a cunthair of destroying the economy and got paid for it.
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I nominate YOU for Treasury Secretary!

By the way, they did destroy the economy. We just managed to slap some band aids on it faster than in 1929.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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ttystikk said:
I fear- and that's exactly what it is- the lowest common voting denominator in this country. I think Donald Chump leading in the polls says a lot about how low that common denominator really is.
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And what about that slimeball Hillary?

Trump works for a living. Hillary has that questionable "charity" foundation going, taking money from rogue nations. She's never built an empire, hell she didn't do shit as she lied about the reason 4 Americans were killed as Sec. of State.
 
Not GOP

Not GOP

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Elwood Diggler said:
as opposed to them taking it seriously on borrowed money? i'd rather give free tuition to those that want the education than watch a bunch of kids inflate another debt bubble that will really fuck the economy up
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that sounded backwards and upside down. you must be liberal
How about I promise to take my credit card more seriously if it's free?
And since it's free, by your logic that means nobody pays for it, and there's never any debt.
Thanks for explaining how you know so much that isn't so. You must be a close economic advisor to Obama
 
Elwood Diggler

Elwood Diggler

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Not GOP said:
that sounded backwards and upside down. you must be liberal
How about I promise to take my credit card more seriously if it's free?
And since it's free, by your logic that means nobody pays for it, and there's never any debt.
Thanks for explaining how you know so much that isn't so. You must be a close economic advisor to Obama
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not even close but u keep misconstruing the topic while trying to promote a failed agenda. is borrowing shit tons of money working well for those that "take it seriously"? or is it creating another bubble that will get bailed out?

do have any documentation of your position? all you've come up with is some tea bagged response about your credit card.
how is it better to buy more bombs than to divert some of that money to cover college costs?
 
Elwood Diggler

Elwood Diggler

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Uncle Ben said:
Exactly. How ironical that you must have a capitalist, free enterprise system for Sander's stupid socialist programs to work. You have to start with something before you can take it away. ;)

I don't know who's more of a joke - Sanders or the sucker bets he's playing to. His game is buying votes just like Obama did - with "free" stuff. Losers want free stuff and the politician's propaganda works.....on some.

There is NO free lunch.
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ironical?? lol
 
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schuylaar

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pnwmystery said:
Patriot Act = Republican
Domestic Spying = started under a Republican
Abortion bans = Republican (Out of our lives, but into a woman's uterus!)
Department of Homeland Security = Largest governmental Department ever created with some of the furthest reach into the private lives of citizens... is a Republican creation.
Increased TSA checks = Republican
Voter ID laws = Republican

And more than half of the Supreme Court are "lefties?" Are you just willfully ignorant?

John Roberts = appointed by George W. Bush (Republican)
Antonio Scalia = appointed by Ronald Reagan (Republican)
Anthony Kennedy = appointed by Ronald Reagan (Republican)
Clarence Thomas = appointed by George H.W. Bush (Republican)
Ruth Bader Ginsberg = appointed by Bill Clinton (Democrat)
Stephen Bayer = appointed by Bill Clinton (Democrat)
Samuel Alito = appointed by George W. Bush (Republican)
Sonia Sotomayor = appointed by Barack Obama (Democrat)
Elena Kagan = appointed by Barack Obama (Democrat)

So I'm not sure if you can do math, but when 5 Justices are appointed by Republicans, and 4 are appointed by Democrats, that makes what? Over half lefties? No, you're just terrible at math. Republicans control SCOTUS 5 Republican nominees to 4 Democrat nominees, do you see how this works? There is however a very fascinating phenomena that happens with Justices that over time their views shift a little bit more progressive because they are appointed for life/until they retire and don't really have to answer to anyone, so they *gasp* follow the law and go to our constitution, and sometimes they even believe that the constitution should be a living document rather than a static document.
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It ain't ignorance that causes so much trouble; it's folks knowing so much that ain't so. ~uncle ben
 
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schuylaar

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Uncle Ben said:
And what about that slimeball Hillary?

Trump works for a living. Hillary has that questionable "charity" foundation going, taking money from rogue nations. She's never built an empire, hell she didn't do shit as she lied about the reason 4 Americans were killed as Sec. of State.
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questionable? delivering aids medication at no cost to sick children in 3rd world countries questionable?

stick to your austin-bubble platitudes afterall, texas is very lenient when it comes to growing and smoking pot:

It ain't ignorance that causes so much trouble; it's folks knowing so much that ain't so. ~uncle ben
 
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