How are things in the states employment-wise?

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Careful, thrifty management of resources, such as money, materials, or labor: learned to practice economy in making out the household budget.

100% what we need to be focusing on in the country right now, so why not elected someone who has proved he understands this AND can act upon it.
I dunno ... Rob't McNamara was also a successful businessman, and while he knew a thing or three about how to politick, his statesmanship is universally acknowledges as terrible.
Imo there is no effective way to extrapolate from a candidate's qualifications, or even campaign statements, to his ultimate goodness at the job. cn
 

Johnny Retro

Well-Known Member
I dunno ... Rob't McNamara was also a successful businessman, and while he knew a thing or three about how to politick, his statesmanship is universally acknowledges as terrible.
Imo there is no effective way to extrapolate from a candidate's qualifications, or even campaign statements, to his ultimate goodness at the job. cn
I think the past resume of the candidate will reflect the future. McNamara was secretary of defense, not sure how he got that job, and the president of world bank, which is a lender ( the people that need to be more heavily regulated in the country) In my eyes he is not a businessman that we needed. Plus im not sure he was even put in a position of power to where he could even have affected us positively economically. Romney is a successful business man, but i dont believe his business was one that can be translated to the presidency. He created a private equity investment firm which will just promoted more bad behavior in Washington. He also turned alot more political since he's been Governor.
The reason I like Cain is because he has never been apart of all this political BS. He is a straight businessman who knows how to turn something thats terrible into something wonderful. Demonstrated by his upbringing and his role at godfathers pizza.
Thank you for a nice repute. Alot more refreshing than some of these other responses lol
 

notoriouszig

Active Member
I think the past resume of the candidate will reflect the future. McNamara was secretary of defense, not sure how he got that job, and the president of world bank, which is a lender ( the people that need to be more heavily regulated in the country) In my eyes he is not a businessman that we needed. Plus im not sure he was even put in a position of power to where he could even have affected us positively economically. Romney is a successful business man, but i dont believe his business was one that can be translated to the presidency. He created a private equity investment firm which will just promoted more bad behavior in Washington. He also turned alot more political since he's been Governor. The reason I like Cain is because he has never been apart of all this political BS. He is a straight businessman who knows how to turn something thats terrible into something wonderful. Demonstrated by his upbringing and his role at godfathers pizza.
Thank you for a nice repute. Alot more refreshing than some of these other responses lol
i still don't see how being a pizza magnate qualifies one for presidency... i am sure there are many parallels between running a successful business and successfully running a nation, but that isn't much of a reason to vote for him. his tax plan doesn't adequately address our debt issue, he has ties to the koch brothers, and he is a GOP frontrunner... that's three strikes my friend. having no formal experience with politics doesn't mean he isn't a corrupt man, it just makes for a good talking point.
 

Johnny Retro

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cain was on the board of the FED at one point...he's in bed with wall street....
He was a member of the Kansas City board. A Class C memeber. Class A memebers are commercial bankers, class B are memebers from NONbanking sectors of our nation, Class C are captians of industry from the region. These board memebers do nothing but give advice. The FED econmists would listen and act however they please. Also this was between 92-95 when the economy wasn't bad
 

notoriouszig

Active Member
He was a member of the Kansas City board. A Class C memeber. Class A memebers are commercial bankers, class B are memebers from NONbanking sectors of our nation, Class C are captians of industry from the region. These board memebers do nothing but give advice. The FED econmists would listen and act however they please. Also this was between 92-95 when the economy wasn't bad
he recently defended the fed claiming that it shouldn't be audited.
[video=youtube;uiAkeFJXwUk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk[/video]
in bed with wall street.
 

Johnny Retro

Well-Known Member
i still don't see how being a pizza magnate qualifies one for presidency... i am sure there are many parallels between running a successful business and successfully running a nation, but that isn't much of a reason to vote for him. his tax plan doesn't adequately address our debt issue, he has ties to the koch brothers, and he is a GOP frontrunner... that's three strikes my friend. having no formal experience with politics doesn't mean he isn't a corrupt man, it just makes for a good talking point.
I agree, he needs to come out and talk more about how he will reduce our deficit. I have no problem with the Koch brothers. The only problem i have is them being able to flex their muscle with the amount of money they have. They can believe whatever they want, they just shouldn't be allowed to have such a strong influence with their money. And that goes back to "buying out washington". They have not funded his campaign in anyway. I think it'll be intresting to give a guy a chance who's never held a political seat and see what he can do. Why vote for the same thing over and over when you can try something new?
 

Johnny Retro

Well-Known Member
he recently defended the fed claiming that it shouldn't be audited.
[video=youtube;uiAkeFJXwUk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk[/video]
in bed with wall street.
I agree we should audit it. But he makes the point of saying he doesn't agree with some of the recent policy's and decisions coming from the fed today. He's seen how the FED works in good times and is basing his opinion off of the good times. He see's how good the FED can be and would appoint the appropriate people to make sure it runs the right way.
 

notoriouszig

Active Member
you're right, he would make a great puppet. based upon what i can gather from this little clip he already has a bit of a head start. he says "i'm not defending the fed" in a speech obviously defending it. that is comparable to beginning an offensive statement with "no offense, but..." it doesn't change his overall message one bit.

the fed is BS.

lol bluezdude, i'd tell your cousin to save himself the trip and buy gold instead, things aren't looking too great for us.
 

deprave

New Member
@ the OP
Lots of IT Jobs, Plenty of people with 'IT' degrees that can't do the jobs lol...I work in IT and every company is desperate for people and you see the same people everywhere you go. We get tons of applications everyday for people who 'went to school for computers' but they can't do the job. If he is good at what he does he will have have a good middle income job easily and even in the worse parts of this country. I live in Michigan which is one of the worse off economically. I would say his children don't have a future in Michigan though unless they work in IT or medicine and are truly passionate about it.

If he is really good at IT and thinking about Detroit though, message me Ill get him a job.
 
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