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Seamaiden

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Muslims come in all colors. How is it a racial slur?
It is a racial slur on the part of the person making the assumptions about Muslims, yes? Most people automatically assume Middle Eastern (and I happen to be able to blend in splendidly with that population), and that assumption is based on some degree of ignorance. For the VAST majority of westerners, Muslim = Arab. (So, what about those who simply have swarthy skin and might be Mediterranean hairy?)

However, I think there have been some much more blatant attacks made, far worse than that. I can certainly see how you're feeling offended, but I've seen (and been on the receiving end of) far worse. My husband as well.

If rollitup and the mods would like, I will spend one week reporting personal attacks that I see on the board. I honestly think it will really increase their workload with site maintenance.
 

Johnnyorganic

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It is a racial slur on the part of the person making the assumptions about Muslims, yes? Most people automatically assume Middle Eastern (and I happen to be able to blend in splendidly with that population), and that assumption is based on some degree of ignorance. For the VAST majority of westerners, Muslim = Arab. (So, what about those who simply have swarthy skin and might be Mediterranean hairy?)

However, I think there have been some much more blatant attacks made, far worse than that. I can certainly see how you're feeling offended, but I've seen (and been on the receiving end of) far worse. My husband as well.

If rollitup and the mods would like, I will spend one week reporting personal attacks that I see on the board. I honestly think it will really increase their workload with site maintenance.
There have been worse. Far worse. But that statement crossed a line in the sand in my mind. I shudder to think what I might do to a person who said such a thing to my face.

My biggest beef with this forum is the widely-held notion that if one sides with a poster, they can do no wrong and any attack made by that person is justified. Outrage is reserved for their sensibilities only. Most of the time the line between sides is divided politically.
 

ceestyle

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I don't think I generally fall victim to that ethos.

I don't think he was calling you a KKK sympathizer, so much as saying that someone that doesn't like Obama must have said that (because it's untrue)

I don't think Obama being Muslim is important. I think that people use that as a scare tactic, seeing as anyone arab, muslim, or "close enough" as an embodiment of terrorism. This attitude is borne out by the ridiculous cartoons and comments on the internet to that effect.

My point was this: you can use a word and do many different things with it. I had a good friend who couldn't understand what problem I had with him using the word "jew". Well, if you say "bobby can't come out to play on saturday. he's a jew and observing shabbat", it's a lot different then "he was such a jew that he wouldn't even buy me a beer". One is a matter-of-fact statement, the other is used to perpetrate a stereotype. I lost a friend over that one.
 

Seamaiden

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Yeah, I see the implication Johnny's talking about with that one. And no, cee, you do not do that sort of stuff. Everything I've read from you has been well worded and respectful.
 

ceestyle

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Then what else could be implied? It was a hateful statement meant to harm me, nothing more. Otherwise, the objection to my original statement could have been made in so many other words.
Okay, I can actually see it now.

What I was thinking is that there are a lot of facts out there, and often times we're not sure where the facts are coming from. Half the time when I'm reading news I get from google news, it's from some source that I could never trust to be impartial. Try getting unbiased news about Palestinian refugees from a paper that's published out of Tel Aviv, for example. I can also see where secondary sources - such as groups with those sorts of affiliations - can get their information into real news sources. I mean, where do you think the rumors about Obama actually came from? Nowhere reputable, I assure you, but they're in mainstream media, aren't they?

Looking at it again, I can see where it could be taken as an alleged affiliation with them.
 

Seamaiden

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Hey, have you ever heard of the Dissident Frogman? Google him, and check out his bullet video. It's some funny shit.
 

ceestyle

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well, if it had been that boring i would have stopped it, but i got it after he showed the picture of the 'bullet'. his mannerisms and language were pretty hilarious, esp. the outtakes complete with french profanity.

where's VTXDave? still populating the politics threads?
 

Twistyman

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Morning All. Happy St. Jean Baptiste
day...........(pepper holiday).. :mrgreen:

Okay, I can actually see it now.

What I was thinking is that there are a lot of facts out there, and often times we're not sure where the facts are coming from. Half the time when I'm reading news I get from google news, it's from some source that I could never trust to be impartial. Try getting unbiased news about Palestinian refugees from a paper that's published out of Tel Aviv, for example. I can also see where secondary sources - such as groups with those sorts of affiliations - can get their information into real news sources. I mean, where do you think the rumors about Obama actually came from? Nowhere reputable, I assure you, but they're in mainstream media, aren't they?

Looking at it again, I can see where it could be taken as an alleged affiliation with them.
Way too much bias in the mainstream news outlets...With the exception of the Tim Russerts out there, they've mostly become talking heads with a definite bias & agenda.....basically, talking heads with spin....:roll:

Sorry! :(...............:(
myself as well. :peace:

About time...


well, if it had been that boring i would have stopped it, but i got it after he showed the picture of the 'bullet'. his mannerisms and language were pretty hilarious, esp. the outtakes complete with french profanity.

Vas manger la marde, maudit epais.......like that ? :blsmoke:

where's VTXDave? still populating the politics threads?
More like haunting....hey dave :mrgreen::mrgreen:

Thank you kindly.:peace:
I promise not to post here unless I am in a calm and stable frame of mind.:oops::oops::oops:
There's not 1 person here that hasn't had a crappy day, and come off sounding like a jerk off....Thats the point..a bad day, attitude and basic life has to be taken into account, when living in the forum realm..We all get pissy........ no reason to apologize..... Now everyone back to your corners... :blsmoke:
 

Twistyman

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Yes it is about time.:mrgreen::peace:

BUT


I just got my mm card and am allowed 4 grams per day........


so........Its all worth feeling like I am from da short bus:hump:


:lol::clap:
Morning Lacy........How many plants are allowed ? The 4 g's sound just the level I like to smoke.....For health ...of course................
Short bus = efficiency ...get there faster, cheaper........
2 day turnaround is pretty quick....some stay pissy for days...:mrgreen:
 

Seamaiden

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Over an EIGHTH per day?? Damn..!! I don't know if I could actually smoke that much per day. I'd end up hoarding it for dry times. :lol:
Thank you kindly.:peace:
I promise not to post here unless I am in a calm and stable frame of mind.:oops::oops::oops:
That TOTALLY reminds me of Cesar Millan, the Dog Whisperer. Calm, assertive energy. :D
Morning All. Happy St. Jean Baptiste
day...........(pepper holiday).. :mrgreen:

There's not 1 person here that hasn't had a crappy day, and come off sounding like a jerk off....Thats the point..a bad day, attitude and basic life has to be taken into account, when living in the forum realm..We all get pissy........ no reason to apologize..... Now everyone back to your corners... :blsmoke:
Happy St. Jean Baptiste Day to you, too (whatever it is, I'll have to Google when I get back home this afternoon). I must respectfully disagree, though, apologies are a good thing and necessary. They help smooth ruffled feathers and allow things to get back on track. Apologies shouldn't be handed out like candy, in that I, for one, don't want to be making so many mistakes that I'm always having to apologize, plus after a while they can sound 'canned' if it's always "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry." But generally they open doors and tend to be helpful.
 

ceestyle

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Can someone summarize the 300 pages of the browndirtwarrior thread? I just found it and don't really feel like reading all of them.
 
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