[h=2]Hey all im back with another waterfarm problem, this time its during veg, the clone was actually near enough rooted in the farm at which stage it was fine, however its been in veg for 1 and a half week now, it started out seemingly ok but as its developed into a small plant its now looking strange.
System is a modded Waterfarm unit with holes drilled and airstone in 12 liter res,clay pebbles medium.
250w MH being used for veg
Strain is blue/jack.
Temps stay around 25-27c at most.
Res temps stay around 17c 18c at highest.
Humidity is unknown but it will be quite dry.
Nutes and addatives im using GH flora series, canna rhizotonic, cannazym, vitalink pro+ and super thrive.
Ph im adjusting once daily down to 5.4 and it drifts up to 6.3 next day (like the first farm)
EC is at 1.7 i mix with one gallon with 2 parts micro, 3 parts grow, 1 part bloom, 15ml rhizo, 15ml cannazym, 1 drop super thrive and 3ml of vitalink pro+.
I use tap water which is very strong out of the tap upto 0.4-0.5ec at times.
If ive missed any info feel free to ask, i have a feeling it could be a nute problem rather than an environment problem because ive had cuttings of the same strain in there with only a few problems to occur later in flowering, but it went on to produce 8oz under a 400w with a 1 and half week veg and 6 and half week flower, the only difference from last time is i was using 125w blue spec CFL and lucas formula for veg and have converted to 250wMH with standard GH fomula for this grow and the clone is in a rapid rooter rather than last time was soil transplanted, ill include a pic leaving the light where i do so you can judge if its the light causing this but i dont think it is, ive moved the light and fiddled with extraction to see if that could be causing it with no apparent difference, oh yeh i also fimmed the plant 3 days ago, im pushed for time as the plant is growing bigger everyday and soon it will be too big for my space however i want to try and sort this problem before i start it flowering to avoid losing too much yield.
Im also using a few addatives which i didnt use last time because im under the impression they will protect my water and benefit my roots, these supplements are whizo, cannzym and vitalink pro+, i also have some senzical grow on hand aswell as epsolm salts.
Ive been growing almost 3 year now, i started in soil, went to coco and this is my 2nd hydro grow, ive never seen this that i recall in any other of my grows, any advice would be appreciated, heres the picsv
https://www.rollitup.org/members/boxu-323107-albums-ill-waterfarm-picture1941363-026.jpg
A pic of some of the lower growth to see slight difference in colour ive got now compared to new slightly lighter growth, MH makes it look worse than it is but its there.
https://www.rollitup.org/members/boxu-323107-albums-ill-waterfarm-picture1941362-025.jpg
Clawing and cupping
https://www.rollitup.org/members/boxu-323107-albums-ill-waterfarm-picture1941361-024.jpg
This pic shows how close i have the 250w MH, dont think its the light though.
https://www.rollitup.org/members/boxu-323107-albums-ill-waterfarm-picture1941360-023.jpg
https://www.rollitup.org/members/boxu-323107-albums-ill-waterfarm-picture1941359-022.jpg
There seems to be lots of claw and leaf curl going on, i think ive sorted out the claw problem aince these pics as the ph was rising quickly overnight i was adjusting it down to 5.3, ive stopped adjusting it so low now and that seems to have helped the claw however i have lots of cupping going on still and it makes the plant look in a very poor way, growth may be stunted a little but the root system is better than my first waterfarm grow at this stage, i was advised to drop my EC down to 1 for a few days so i did and it still hasnt seemed to help much, it seems like the plant may be drinking more but not sure.
This morning i have lowered the EC further down to 0.8 and changed from 10ml micro 15ml veg and 5 ml bloom per 10L and ive mixed a weak 0.8EC solution of lucas formula instead incase of mag def, i have some senzical grow to try if the change to lucas formula doesnt help, ill be taking and uploading some more pics today during lights off, any help would be appreciated[/h]
System is a modded Waterfarm unit with holes drilled and airstone in 12 liter res,clay pebbles medium.
250w MH being used for veg
Strain is blue/jack.
Temps stay around 25-27c at most.
Res temps stay around 17c 18c at highest.
Humidity is unknown but it will be quite dry.
Nutes and addatives im using GH flora series, canna rhizotonic, cannazym, vitalink pro+ and super thrive.
Ph im adjusting once daily down to 5.4 and it drifts up to 6.3 next day (like the first farm)
EC is at 1.7 i mix with one gallon with 2 parts micro, 3 parts grow, 1 part bloom, 15ml rhizo, 15ml cannazym, 1 drop super thrive and 3ml of vitalink pro+.
I use tap water which is very strong out of the tap upto 0.4-0.5ec at times.
If ive missed any info feel free to ask, i have a feeling it could be a nute problem rather than an environment problem because ive had cuttings of the same strain in there with only a few problems to occur later in flowering, but it went on to produce 8oz under a 400w with a 1 and half week veg and 6 and half week flower, the only difference from last time is i was using 125w blue spec CFL and lucas formula for veg and have converted to 250wMH with standard GH fomula for this grow and the clone is in a rapid rooter rather than last time was soil transplanted, ill include a pic leaving the light where i do so you can judge if its the light causing this but i dont think it is, ive moved the light and fiddled with extraction to see if that could be causing it with no apparent difference, oh yeh i also fimmed the plant 3 days ago, im pushed for time as the plant is growing bigger everyday and soon it will be too big for my space however i want to try and sort this problem before i start it flowering to avoid losing too much yield.
Im also using a few addatives which i didnt use last time because im under the impression they will protect my water and benefit my roots, these supplements are whizo, cannzym and vitalink pro+, i also have some senzical grow on hand aswell as epsolm salts.
Ive been growing almost 3 year now, i started in soil, went to coco and this is my 2nd hydro grow, ive never seen this that i recall in any other of my grows, any advice would be appreciated, heres the picsv
https://www.rollitup.org/members/boxu-323107-albums-ill-waterfarm-picture1941363-026.jpg
A pic of some of the lower growth to see slight difference in colour ive got now compared to new slightly lighter growth, MH makes it look worse than it is but its there.
https://www.rollitup.org/members/boxu-323107-albums-ill-waterfarm-picture1941362-025.jpg
Clawing and cupping
https://www.rollitup.org/members/boxu-323107-albums-ill-waterfarm-picture1941361-024.jpg
This pic shows how close i have the 250w MH, dont think its the light though.
https://www.rollitup.org/members/boxu-323107-albums-ill-waterfarm-picture1941360-023.jpg
https://www.rollitup.org/members/boxu-323107-albums-ill-waterfarm-picture1941359-022.jpg
There seems to be lots of claw and leaf curl going on, i think ive sorted out the claw problem aince these pics as the ph was rising quickly overnight i was adjusting it down to 5.3, ive stopped adjusting it so low now and that seems to have helped the claw however i have lots of cupping going on still and it makes the plant look in a very poor way, growth may be stunted a little but the root system is better than my first waterfarm grow at this stage, i was advised to drop my EC down to 1 for a few days so i did and it still hasnt seemed to help much, it seems like the plant may be drinking more but not sure.
This morning i have lowered the EC further down to 0.8 and changed from 10ml micro 15ml veg and 5 ml bloom per 10L and ive mixed a weak 0.8EC solution of lucas formula instead incase of mag def, i have some senzical grow to try if the change to lucas formula doesnt help, ill be taking and uploading some more pics today during lights off, any help would be appreciated[/h]