Help plant leaves down and grown stoped?
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mr sunshine
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They look over watered. .
Triplec
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Looks like a combination of over watering and high humidity/temp. What's your humidity and temps? Also when you say it's stopped growing, can you clarify that? I can't tell from the pics but it looks like your still in veg. How old are they?
Plants are a mouth 1/2 to 2mouths old im new and still learning. I didn't have the right stuff at first but Im getting what I need now and don't know how much I should feed them. and yes there in veg. I got no other seeds so I was thinkin about cloning. and temp 79f and hum is 42
VX420
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They look UNDER watered. How fast does your soil drain? or does it hold water. You want a fast draining soil and then you can never Over water. My first guess by the pics would be they need water. Now if you are there and the soil is MUD, then that's not it and I fact they have to much water and no O2. If that is the case, put some dry soil on top or even re plant into dry soil. But I still guess they need water. Lest us know what the soil is like
Soil is a mix of perlite and peat moss. and yes it drains fast.
AirAnt
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your best bet is to transplant. shake as much of the old dirt loose as you can without damaging the root-ball. put them into dry soil and stop watering so much. water by the weight of the pot, not by time schedules.
it's also best to water them when their day is beginning, about an hour after their lights come on, not before their dark cycle or at night. the higher temperatures of the day combined with the increased water consumption of the plant when lights are on is a lot healthier than plants sitting in the dark in damp soil.
you can correct underwatering instantly, but it can take a long time for a plant to recover from being overwatered.
it's also best to water them when their day is beginning, about an hour after their lights come on, not before their dark cycle or at night. the higher temperatures of the day combined with the increased water consumption of the plant when lights are on is a lot healthier than plants sitting in the dark in damp soil.
you can correct underwatering instantly, but it can take a long time for a plant to recover from being overwatered.
how long would it take you think to recover. and did I mess up doing a feeding also would they be good to sit for 2 days then transplant? im out of town till sat day. so im worried are they gona pull threw or what? also im in veg when should I switch to flower cycle.
AirAnt
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They'll live for two days, but I'd really pull them outta what they're in ASAP. Feeding nutrients depends on what soil you're using. Since your growing in sterile peat and perlite, you're probably feeding everything your plants need to them through nutes. Ordinarily though, you don't want to feed plants that aren't healthy, but give them pure water until they recover. I would also wait until they recover to flower them, so they're not trying to recover and produce buds at the same time. Otherwise it will just take them that much longer to flower.
AirAnt
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If you're using totally inert medium with no nutes in it, then you should probably cut to half-strength nutes for awhile. Let them dry out for as long as it takes. You'll be able to see they're recovering when the new growth starts pointing upward again rather than sagging.
Like I said, you can fix underwatering instantly, and the plant will visibly recover almost instantly as well. Overwatering can take a long time, Transplant and be patient. When you start to learn the plant better you'll be able to tell when it's asking for water. Leaves will get a bit droopy, like sad looking. I usually give them a full dark cycle and then I water them.
They can really live a long time without water. I'd say without a transplant those plants could go at least 2 weeks, maybe more. With it will be about a week. Overwatering creates all kinds of problems that the plant has to deal with before it can do much of anything else.
Like I said, you can fix underwatering instantly, and the plant will visibly recover almost instantly as well. Overwatering can take a long time, Transplant and be patient. When you start to learn the plant better you'll be able to tell when it's asking for water. Leaves will get a bit droopy, like sad looking. I usually give them a full dark cycle and then I water them.
They can really live a long time without water. I'd say without a transplant those plants could go at least 2 weeks, maybe more. With it will be about a week. Overwatering creates all kinds of problems that the plant has to deal with before it can do much of anything else.
AlphaPhase
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They look under watered to me. Over watering will make the leaf swell up and curl over, under watering just causes drooping. If the soils dry add water and you're good to go.
twistedranks
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mate looks like your bitches need a drink of water, kinda looks cool when they get all cube looking like that though + get a little fan for those ladies PEACE
AirAnt
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why post advice if you don't read the thread? Obviously it's not underwatering, as they looked like that before, and when watered again they got worse. Use your freggin brains.
Overwatering looks like underwatering because when a plant is overwatered it actually cannot absorb the moisture that surrounds it and it dehydrates and gets locked out of all the nutes and food it needs and basically suffocates. Get those plants transplanted ASAP, like I said.
Overwatering looks like underwatering because when a plant is overwatered it actually cannot absorb the moisture that surrounds it and it dehydrates and gets locked out of all the nutes and food it needs and basically suffocates. Get those plants transplanted ASAP, like I said.
AlphaPhase
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Well okay master. I did read all of the Ops comments. And I saw his pics. And then I made MY conclusion, with my freakin brain. And I know what under and over watering looks like, trust me.
AlphaPhase
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And over watering does NOTlook llike under watering, don't post ridiculous advice like that.
AlphaPhase
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Example. And good luck to the op. Hope your plant gets better.
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AirAnt
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not tryin to burst your bubble, cap'n, just asking for common sense. if his plant looks like crap, he waters it, and it looks even crappier, chances are it's not under watering causing the problem.
I just harvested about a pound of the wettest, saddest plants you've ever seen. i can tell you for a fact overwatering looks almost exactly like underwatering. The plant withers up, shrivels, and starts falling over. This happens because when the soil is too wet for too long the electrochemical levels of the dirt and the plant's cell walls become reversed and the dirt actually leeches moisture out of the plant.
Overwatering is worse than underwatering, for a ton of reasons. Instant correction as opposed to extended time-lapse or transplantation, simple lack of moisture compared to the diseases and ailments plants can become susceptible to mold, rot, all kinds of nasty things.
Basically it wouldn't be a problem if it was underwatered. He could pout some water and the problem is solved, bam, boom, kango-kabango, taken care of. It's not underwatering, it's overwatering, so therefore it's actually a big fucking problem and something that should be taken care of rather than sitting around staring at, in my opinion. Goddamn why you assholes have to play devil's advocate just to make me spout all this nonsense for a simple fucking problem that could have been addressed in one or two sentences. what the fuck.
I just harvested about a pound of the wettest, saddest plants you've ever seen. i can tell you for a fact overwatering looks almost exactly like underwatering. The plant withers up, shrivels, and starts falling over. This happens because when the soil is too wet for too long the electrochemical levels of the dirt and the plant's cell walls become reversed and the dirt actually leeches moisture out of the plant.
Overwatering is worse than underwatering, for a ton of reasons. Instant correction as opposed to extended time-lapse or transplantation, simple lack of moisture compared to the diseases and ailments plants can become susceptible to mold, rot, all kinds of nasty things.
Basically it wouldn't be a problem if it was underwatered. He could pout some water and the problem is solved, bam, boom, kango-kabango, taken care of. It's not underwatering, it's overwatering, so therefore it's actually a big fucking problem and something that should be taken care of rather than sitting around staring at, in my opinion. Goddamn why you assholes have to play devil's advocate just to make me spout all this nonsense for a simple fucking problem that could have been addressed in one or two sentences. what the fuck.