Help needed with tea recipe!!!!!!

Chris323 said:

no one????????

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Chris323 said:

Hello fellow growers !! this is my first post in the organic section so pleas take it easy on me lol!! I want to whip up some aact but i am limited to my ingredients. I have worm castings black strap molasses sea kelp extract and a organic fertilizer. i was wondering if the fert was ok to add to the mix .. its ingredients are : Alfalfa meal, bone meal, blood meal, glacial rock dust, mined potassium sulphate, fossilized carbon complex, rock phosphate, greensand, kelp meal, gypsum. looking forward toyour thoughts on the subject lol !!!

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backtracker said:

You can make a great tea from those ingredients it will be a fertilizer because the brewing process will break everything down to make them ready for the plants to use now and it won't have to go through the process of being broken down in the soil before the roots can take it up. Dilute it too much will burn them .

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Rasta Roy said:

I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you sir. Some of those ingredients are water soluble, a good majority are not. You can Google them individually to find out which ones for yourself, but I can tell you more of them aren't than are. An actively aerated tea will bring the already existing microbiology in compost or manure and feed it so that it multiplies and becomes more complex. When these microorganisms are added to your soil, they work to break down the organic matter and turn it into nutrients that the plant can uptake. There is nothing about an aact that makes stuff "break down". Well, post application there is. But not in its creation itself.

Some things like kelp meal, alfalfa, and Bat Guano. When steeped in water over a 24 hour to 48 hour period can have their nutritional benefits leeched out into the water. So that they will be instantly absorbed by the roots when the water is applied to the soil. Or through the leaves by way of foliar feeding.

Just saying, not trying to salt your game bro. The Fert should be applied as a top dressing or evenly mixed in the soil.

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nobodies said:

not 100% true. The bacteria you are brewing in your tea will most definitely break down some amount of organic material. Especially if your buckets are outside in the hot sun/air. The combination of anaerobic bacteria, the air from your air pump, sugars, and heat will produce so much bacteria that any organic material will immediately begin to be eaten. The rest of it will be converted inside your pots throughout your plants lifetime.

However that isn't the point of tea. The point of tea is the immediate uptake of water soluble nutrients, and to replenish the bacteria in the soil, as well as feed the existing bacteria as you've said.

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Rasta Roy said:

I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you sir. Some of those ingredients are water soluble, a good majority are not. You can Google them individually to find out which ones for yourself, but I can tell you more of them aren't than are. An actively aerated tea will bring the already existing microbiology in compost or manure and feed it so that it multiplies and becomes more complex. When these microorganisms are added to your soil, they work to break down the organic matter and turn it into nutrients that the plant can uptake. There is nothing about an aact that makes stuff "break down". Well, post application there is. But not in its creation itself.

Some things like kelp meal, alfalfa, and Bat Guano. When steeped in water over a 24 hour to 48 hour period can have their nutritional benefits leeched out into the water. So that they will be instantly absorbed by the roots when the water is applied to the soil. Or through the leaves by way of foliar feeding.

Just saying, not trying to salt your game bro. The Fert should be applied as a top dressing or evenly mixed in the soil.

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greasemonkeymann said:

the solid non soluble nutrients aren't gonna break down, no matter how long you brew,
it's like throwing rocks in a pot of boiling water and expecting it to melt.
the bone meal, the greensand, the minerals, etc.
those are doing nothing
also it's not the anaerobic bacteria you want, hence the bubbling, thats aerobic bacteria
and you don't want heat and sunlight.

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backtracker said:

The microbes in the castings and the enzymes in the guano start to break down the minerals just like they do in soil only quicker in the brewing process that's the whole point of tea and rock dust and molasses feeds the whole process and in soil it works the same way only much slower. Put that in your google bro.

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nobodies said:

Yes I meant aerobic bacteria, Have you never seen organic matter decay? That is bacteria and fungi doing that. In fact fungi/bacteria can break down rocks, among other things. Even plastics, and petrols, they can even break down radiation.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/artful-amoeba/the-world-s-largest-mining-operation-is-run-by-fungi/

http://www.phschool.com/science/science_news/articles/attack_rock_eating.html

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Chris323 said:

forgive me for being dumb.. but would it not be beneficial to add the fertilizer with all those ingredients even if only some will be broken down?? isnt it better to have something rather than nothing ... and what is not broken down or water soluble is just joing to get filtered out and put in to the garden outside any way..I guess what i am getting at is ..... will it hurt my tea and or plants if the fert is added to the tea ?

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