Has anyone used lg.5gal.+ grow pots?

fasteddy714

fasteddy714

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I been using 2 and 3gal. grow pots for yrs. and have thought of using bigger pots for increased yeild. The growers I talk to are even hooking up 5gal. pots for the ebb & gro system I'm using. So,I'm gonna try a couple of 5gal. soil fifi's and see what happens.I heard some real nice yeild increases. Anyone else into this or is it just me.:?:hug::hump:
 
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kyndscotsman

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Yeah man I do. They are great if you are growing a long flowering sativa such as Jack Herer.........my SANNIES Jack Herer loves the 5 gal pots. If you are into the shorter indica crosses then I wouldn't worry about it.........unless you wanna keep a mother plant happy.......just my two cents worth bro
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Tamorin

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I only use 5 gallon pots, I used to use the 3 gallons u get with the kit but fuck that. Were talking about a 20-25% yield increase per plant. My suggestion to u is stick with the .5 inch tubing and connectors but go to lowest buy 2 5 gallon buckets per plant and drill your own holes ,don't waste your money on ebb and grow monster controller either. The regular contrler can handle 11 big plants fine. But once u hit 12 bug suckers on one controller with a 55 gallon drum u will have to top off the barrel before day 6 do to barrel being almost empty. I got 11 and its perfect for my week schedule.
 
dbkick

dbkick

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Tamorin said:
I only use 5 gallon pots, I used to use the 3 gallons u get with the kit but fuck that. Were talking about a 20-25% yield increase per plant. My suggestion to u is stick with the .5 inch tubing and connectors but go to lowest buy 2 5 gallon buckets per plant and drill your own holes ,don't waste your money on ebb and grow monster controller either. The regular contrler can handle 11 big plants fine. But once u hit 12 bug suckers on one controller with a 55 gallon drum u will have to top off the barrel before day 6 do to barrel being almost empty. I got 11 and its perfect for my week schedule.
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ebb monster isn't a "waste" of money, I don't see where your advice says anything about the newer versions and how they have 2 float switches instead of 3, nor did you mention the issues that come with the old version. Personally I bought an ebb monster system and say its not a "waste" of money.
 
Calidadd

Calidadd

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I'm growing in 5gal. The plants seems happy & growing huge. As far as yield I couldn't tell you yet. This is my first grow. I wont be harvesting till Feb-Mar. Good luck.
 
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NoBarriers

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I use 5's and have to water much less than with 3's... I'd use them just for that but you do get more yield so it's a win/win...
 
Buddy232

Buddy232

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dbkick said:
ebb monster isn't a "waste" of money, I don't see where your advice says anything about the newer versions and how they have 2 float switches instead of 3, nor did you mention the issues that come with the old version. Personally I bought an ebb monster system and say its not a "waste" of money.
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Wait until everyones see's the system we designed where you don't need to WASTE your $250 on a bucket with a fancy box on it. (If you don't want to.) :)


Ps, I think Tamo has in fact owned both the monster and regular. To each his own, a guy likes what he likes.
 
dbkick

dbkick

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Buddy232 said:
Wait until everyones see's the system we designed where you don't need to WASTE your $250 on a bucket with a fancy box on it. (If you don't want to.) :)


Ps, I think Tamo has in fact owned both the monster and regular. To each his own, a guy likes what he likes.
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yo why is all your post numbers 421??? shit you must be somebody. How much does yours cost btw?
 
Filthy Phil

Filthy Phil

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Yeah, a plant of equal size when bloomed in a 3 gallon as compared to the same plant in a five gallon will yield much less with smaller buds. 5 gallons or larger is the way to go
 
Tamorin

Tamorin

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The monster controller sits in my basement because when they first came out the pumps they gave with it were too big and couldn't empty it all out , so it kept running all the time eventually burning out the pump. The reason its a waste of money is with same results using 5 gallon buckets u will pay more for the oversized controller and for the bigger tubing. On top of that I found the 3/4 inch tubing to a pain in the Ass for moving your plants when everythings connected. The half inch is flexable , I always give each bucket a couple inches more so I can move em a bit if need be for lights ect.
 
dbkick

dbkick

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Tamorin said:
The monster controller sits in my basement because when they first came out the pumps they gave with it were too big and couldn't empty it all out , so it kept running all the time eventually burning out the pump. The reason its a waste of money is with same results using 5 gallon buckets u will pay more for the oversized controller and for the bigger tubing. On top of that I found the 3/4 inch tubing to a pain in the Ass for moving your plants when everythings connected. The half inch is flexable , I always give each bucket a couple inches more so I can move em a bit if need be for lights ect.
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they require a check valve, the 3 second delay built in to the pump switch is suppose to address this issue but really doesn't, a check valve does.Also there is more flexible 3/4 inch tubing but I tend to like the more sturdy tubing.
 
Buddy232

Buddy232

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dbkick said:
yo why is all your post numbers 421??? shit you must be somebody. How much does yours cost btw?
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All of my posts were numbered as 421? I'm not sure what to say. Maybe the system was being weird... I'm the least special person on here!

Anyways... I'm not sure what the total cost what be, I've yet to try it. You'd need though two pumps, two simple timers, > $20 of various plumbing stuff and two 55 gal barrels. I get those for free. :) Plus of course all the down stream stuff you need anyways for an ebb and grow.


Assuming you have the basic tools already and the barrels, buckets and tubes. Gotta be less than a hundred bucks - easy.
 
dbkick

dbkick

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Buddy232 said:
All of my posts were numbered as 421? I'm not sure what to say. Maybe the system was being weird... I'm the least special person on here!

Anyways... I'm not sure what the total cost what be, I've yet to try it. You'd need though two pumps, two simple timers, > $20 of various plumbing stuff and two 55 gal barrels. I get those for free. :) Plus of course all the down stream stuff you need anyways for an ebb and grow.


Assuming you have the basic tools already and the barrels, buckets and tubes. Gotta be less than a hundred bucks - easy.
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I don't see where there's any float switches mentioned , how are you controlling the levels? These cap buckets are really ready to fly and that means a lot to some people, reliable too. I'm sure all other brands are equally nice and have features the others may not, but I can only speak about cap and I really like this overpriced over-sized monster controller bucket . maybe it was just a glitch but I noticed your post number was 421 and then looked at some of the things you had to say in previous posts and they were all marked 421. I found this odd but maybe its normal. OP sorry if we've gotten off topic but its actually sorta on topic .
 
Buddy232

Buddy232

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dbkick said:
I don't see where there's any float switches mentioned , how are you controlling the levels? These cap buckets are really ready to fly and that means a lot to some people, reliable too. I'm sure all other brands are equally nice and have features the others may not, but I can only speak about cap and I really like this overpriced over-sized monster controller bucket . maybe it was just a glitch but I noticed your post number was 421 and then looked at some of the things you had to say in previous posts and they were all marked 421. I found this odd but maybe its normal. OP sorry if we've gotten off topic but its actually sorta on topic .
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My design substitues basic math for floats I guess. But for sure whenever it's built I'm sure things will get added/changed you know?

However knowing how much water your putting out and the gph of your pump - I don't see why you need a float in your reservoir. And if you have a CV right before your "controller bucket" and just wait however long you want before that pump comes on to put the water back to your reservoir... I don't see a need for any other hardware in there either. (This assumes your drain line is plumbed flush with the floor into the bucket and your pump is sitting in there.) What is your opinion?


Ps, if you saw my posts in the general chat. Disregard those. I got really mad at some guy who thought he was Charles Darwin.


Bud
 
dbkick

dbkick

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Buddy232 said:
My design substitues basic math for floats I guess. But for sure whenever it's built I'm sure things will get added/changed you know?

However knowing how much water your putting out and the gph of your pump - I don't see why you need a float in your reservoir. And if you have a CV right before your "controller bucket" and just wait however long you want before that pump comes on to put the water back to your reservoir... I don't see a need for any other hardware in there either. (This assumes your drain line is plumbed flush with the floor into the bucket and your pump is sitting in there.) What is your opinion?


Ps, if you saw my posts in the general chat. Disregard those. I got really mad at some guy who thought he was Charles Darwin.


Bud
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I ran a system that recirculated based on this math (cycled timing of the pump) and it work fairly well but still flooded my floor once I believe, I've even implemented a JBJ ATO and had flooding (the floor) issues. I'll keep my cap with float switches, pretty failsafe but not 100 percent.
 
Buddy232

Buddy232

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dbkick said:
I ran a system that recirculated based on this math (cycled timing of the pump) and it work fairly well but still flooded my floor once I believe, I've even implemented a JBJ ATO and had flooding (the floor) issues. I'll keep my cap with float switches, pretty failsafe but not 100 percent.
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That's actually really funny DB! (Not that you flooded your floor.) But I used those EXACT same words somewhere here in the RI forum. That my design worked perfect on paper, but obviously it wasn't perfect until I flooded my floor a few times.

If you have any pictures left over from those builds I'd love to see them and discuss them!

No doubt the CAP system is plug and play. But for the price I can't justify it for what it does and the components it contains. All of the basic elements are very simple, and it's a shame on me that I suck at general circuitry. For me, timers, pumps, check valves, etc are the easiest way to accomplish the system without getting down to the knitty gritty. I would also hard plumb everything to make sure tubes don't pop out of grommets under pressure.

In the past I built a 55g, bottom in-top out sand and gravel filter for my old man's koi pond. There is some decent plumbing work on that to make it work correct, 3 or 4 CV's, some ball valves and different line splits to skimmers, drains and other tanks. Anyways... I flooded the garage floor some many friggin times with that thing before it was done, and even a couple times after while I dialed it. But once it was right it was fine - and it works better than any commercial filter on the market. Partly because it's impossible to market something that you need to spend 20 hours hooking up yourself. There is 100's of these exact filters going around the country, all of our water looks like gin!!


Like I said, I'd love to chat with someone who's tried it before for cannabis.
 
dbkick

dbkick

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Buddy232 said:
That's actually really funny DB! (Not that you flooded your floor.) But I used those EXACT same words somewhere here in the RI forum. That my design worked perfect on paper, but obviously it wasn't perfect until I flooded my floor a few times.

If you have any pictures left over from those builds I'd love to see them and discuss them!

No doubt the CAP system is plug and play. But for the price I can't justify it for what it does and the components it contains. All of the basic elements are very simple, and it's a shame on me that I suck at general circuitry. For me, timers, pumps, check valves, etc are the easiest way to accomplish the system without getting down to the knitty gritty. I would also hard plumb everything to make sure tubes don't pop out of grommets under pressure.

In the past I built a 55g, bottom in-top out sand and gravel filter for my old man's koi pond. There is some decent plumbing work on that to make it work correct, 3 or 4 CV's, some ball valves and different line splits to skimmers, drains and other tanks. Anyways... I flooded the garage floor some many friggin times with that thing before it was done, and even a couple times after while I dialed it. But once it was right it was fine - and it works better than any commercial filter on the market. Partly because it's impossible to market something that you need to spend 20 hours hooking up yourself. There is 100's of these exact filters going around the country, all of our water looks like gin!!


Like I said, I'd love to chat with someone who's tried it before for cannabis.
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I hate to jack OP's thread but hell he doesn't even appear to be around anymore :/
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/346967-my-first-grow.html
That's me from day one, I've changed shit up so many times my head has spun, not too mention my bank account(spent a bunch building various things).
There isn't much on that page about the recirulating without the control bucket. that was more of a rdwc thing anyway. I did find one item that may come in handy for your build, if nothing else as a safety device for flooding. Its called Basement watchdog. Its a float switch that mounts to a pipe and turns on a pump if when the level is reached. Costs like 35 bux. I was gonna buy one but I bought the jbj ato instead, it turned out with some sort of glitch and what happened? it flooded my floor! So all in all I really like this cap system.
 
Buddy232

Buddy232

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dbkick said:
I hate to jack OP's thread but hell he doesn't even appear to be around anymore :/
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/346967-my-first-grow.html
That's me from day one, I've changed shit up so many times my head has spun, not too mention my bank account(spent a bunch building various things).
There isn't much on that page about the recirulating without the control bucket. that was more of a rdwc thing anyway. I did find one item that may come in handy for your build, if nothing else as a safety device for flooding. Its called Basement watchdog. Its a float switch that mounts to a pipe and turns on a pump if when the level is reached. Costs like 35 bux. I was gonna buy one but I bought the jbj ato instead, it turned out with some sort of glitch and what happened? it flooded my floor! So all in all I really like this cap system.
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Thanks for all the info brother! I will check it out while sitting down for dinner this afternoon!!


Maybe later on I will sit down with a jay and draw up something and post it for you opinion. The problem is - NO ONE wants to hear it when it comes to elaborate home made systems, so I've had trouble finding people to work with on ideas. I just like to have fun you know? (But I do want to make sure I have a working system too before I start f'ing around, which is why I haven't gone nuts yet.)

Bud
 
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