Harvest Cup... Michigan Style

GregS

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Ok I'm alive enough for an up date..
Pickin up entries from the D to the sunset coast..runnin I-75 to Iron Labs Thursday and Friday so get to me.
I gotta say, the best samples I'm seeing come from Farmers not the dyspos.. So far

Friday is set up and party. Someone will be accepting entries for Saturdays competition until midnight.
Vendors may vend at their descression.

Saturday. Open for vendors @ 8:00 (ish) doors open at 11:00. Drop off for Sundays competition all day.
Benefit dinner and awards start at 7:00.

Judges are coming from our VIP guests and a selection of our other guests.
Sunday
Dyspo vs farmers competition. This will be strait up people's choice. Our guests will be the judges.
Yes to judge you must have a card.

This is Saginaw county on private property. We have rules to follow. Simple manners ;)
I'm nearby if you want to have some laughs putting this together babycakes. I can use some.
 

Blaze23

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I wish I would of knew about this before the deadline, I would have entered for sure. Sounds like a lot of fun.
 

NurseNancy420

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Let's see..
Saturday nights MC is Adam Brooks from the Hash Bash. The dinner it's self is for a plan that involves some of our sharpest advocates and Litigators ... More as it is finalized.
One of the judges for the medibles is multiple high times cup winner,n great guy.. Captain Kirk
The majority of our judges will come from our guests. VIPs and random patients.
Several donors have just donated flowers for the cause ..
 

GregS

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What is Totten's MJ position? I'm skeptical of any legal reform coming from either a law professor or the left personally. In the end that party line sounds a lot like MJ is dangerous and addictive, lets keep on keeping on. I hope we have a clear view of which side of the isle the trial lawyers and their money stack up.

I'm no fan of Schuette, but the problem with AGs is the self serving "profession" and political affiliation (special interest), not political ideology IMHO
While I realize that there is some distrust here for Kormon, I think he is on the right side of this issue.

Mark Totten: Clearing The Bs
Posted by Michael Komorn, 23 October 2014 · 114 views

Mark Totten for AG Bill Schuette Michigan Election 2014
Earlier this week I attended a fund raiser for Michigan Attorney General Candidate Mark Totten. When he addressed the supporters at this function, it was more than refreshing to hear the honesty and integrity with which he spoke. Of course the supporters present were those from our Michigan medical marihuana community, and they were all there to hear and see what our great state would be like with Mark Totten as our Law Enforcement Leader.

Mark Totten was up front that the Medical Marihuana issue was not one that was entirely in his wheelhouse, he did however emphatically state that the current policies have failed miserably and needed to be changed. The most compelling words he stated were that he wanted to be a problem solver and not a problem creator. Everyone in the room new what he meant, and as he engaged with the community throughout the night, listening, talking, taking in the various complaints, grievances and suggestion, it was encouraging to say the least. While he may not yet be an expert on the MMMA, he was more than an expert, in fact great orator would better describe him, in breaking down the opponent, Bill Schuette's policies and obstruction of the MMMA. His final remarks were spot on, and clearly reflected many if not all of the inconsistent, irrational policies, and waste of tax payer dollars I feel I have been talking about since 2010. The wasting of valuable resources, ignoring the law, the constitutional initiative, and crafting arguments to defend these policies that no lawyer or any citizen should take seriously, needs to end.

In 2008 3.3 Million Michiganders voted for the Michigan Medical Marihuana Act 2008. Never before in Michigan History have more votes been cast for any issue, ever. This monumental event expressed, amongst other things, the will of the citizens of Michigan to recognize cannabis as a medicine. “Modern medical research, including as found by the National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine in a March 1999 report, has discovered beneficial uses for marihuana in treating or alleviating the pain, nausea, and other symptoms associated with a variety of debilitating medical conditions.” MCL 333.26422 The ballot initiative in Michigan is a constitutional right, and allows citizens to change the law through the ballot box. In addition to this process being a constitutionally guaranteed protection for Michigan Citizens, it also requires a super majority vote by the legislature to amend, giving it superior precedent to all other legislatively created laws.

The biggest and most outspoken opponent to the Ballot Initiative prior to and after it became law has been Bill Schuette. Bill Schuette is a career politician who has fed from the public trough his entire professional career. In 2010 he became the Attorney General of the State of Michigan. Despite the continued overwhelming citizen support for medical cannabis, Bill Schuette the leading law enforcement agent in the state has been the biggest obstructionist to its implementation. At a time when Michigan most needed leadership, in how to effectively transition the 80 years of reefer madness taught as a religion to the law enforcement community on their first day at the academy, instead he has failed us.

The Attorney General by his own propaganda machine has declared the MMMA full of more holes than Swiss cheese. His disdain for the MMMA, from his position of leadership, has set in motion a free ticket to turn a blind eye and encourage willful ignorance as the standard in the Michigan Law Enforcement Community. Prosecutors and Judges freely espouse that the MMMA is poorly written and is a bad law, begging the question of since when does or why should it matter what the elected officials of this Great State, sworn to enforce the law, and interpret the law respectively think about any given law, let alone a law that is supported by 70 percent of Michigan voters.

Instead of embracing his constituents, the voters of Michigan, he has ignored their voice and used his position of authority and power to create fear, and misinformation. Instead of being accountable and responsible to the a People of the State of Michigan, he has instead cast doubt on its legitimacy, seemingly encouraging the Law Enforcement Community to ignore the protections of the Act. Instead of declaring reasonable interpretations of the MMMA that are necessary for the Act to be workable, he has either acted intentionally in failing to clarify its ambiguities or encourage officers to find the ambiguities that ultimately ensnarl what would be otherwise law abiding citizens into technical violators and alleged felons. Instead of using his office to help the citizens of Michigan implement the MMMA, he has instead done the opposite taking advantage of every opportunity to circumvent the law and ignore the will of the voters.

Medical Cannabis and Cannabis reform in the United States is and will remain a topic in the national and state headlines. With over 70 and 50 percent respectively supporting reform, this issue is not going anywhere. The Michigan Legislature has attempted to address and pass a state law intended to address concerns of the MMMA and move towards a regulated system for retail sales. As the provisioning center bill remains tabled until the lame duck session, delays to its passing can be directly linked back to the state police and their leader Bill Schuette.

November 4, 2014 is an important day for the medical cannabis, and cannabis reform community but more importantly for all voters in the state of Michigan. The choices are more than clear: will Michigan pave the way, and serve as an example of medical cannabis and cannabis reform pursuant to the will of the citizens of Michigan, or will a single individual espousing arcane policies, ignoring logic, and overriding popular support maintain his position of power. Does Michigan want an Attorney General who creates problems for the medical cannabis community or a person whose goal is to solve problems? Do we want an Attorney General who refuses to be educated as to the benefits of medical cannabis? Do we want an Attorney General who has toured the state, at tax payer expense, as Bill Schuette did on his “Clearing the Air” tour where he spewed fear, misinformation, and reefer madness. Do we want an Attorney General who claims to be a supporter of states’ rights who has ignored the desire of the State of Michigan to implement a medical marihuana program because, as he says, it is against federal law.

Or would Michigan be better off with a leader with a more modern and realistic view of cannabis in Michigan? One who is willing to listen, learn, and become educated so he can be a problem solver instead of a problem maker. The State of Michigan will be at a crossroads on November 4, and at that time it will be decided whether the next 4 years of cannabis reform in Michigan will be implemented or obstructed. The choice should be simple vote for problem solving, and vote Mark Totten for Attorney General.
 

TheMan13

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What is Totten's position on MJ DUI and it's enforcement? I can see that as an economic win for both our justice system & pot lawyers, and we see just that being played out in states to our west. We know alcohol DUIs are down and even lowering the BAL here has not shored up that scary ass business model. Initiating that game here would unquestionably be a turn for the worse in our medical community.

What about acting on some of the crazy standing MMMA court opinions and literally shutting down anything but flowers provided by a registered caregiver to their registered patient? Expecting us to wait for Totten's legal opinion on MMMA until after the election and some study that should have been completed well before considering a run for office does not instill confidence IMHO He was a law professor at UofM and he does not feel he knows MMMA well enough to have an established legal opinion :confused:
 

TheMan13

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Could he be any worse than what we have now?
That's my point brother: Is what we don't know better than what we do? We've heard Schuette's legal opinions (BS) for years and we've see the reality of MMMA today under his rule. We have no clue of what Totten's legal opinion is, or will be, nor the reality of what MMMA under his rule. That's something I'd simply like to know before I support the man and it is reasonable that we would expect such from an AG candidate. Hope for change on the federal level has gotten medicinal MJ nowhere. Fool me once ...
 

Skylor

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He can't be any worst then we have now ! Our AG right now is the pitts, the worst one can get. There is nothing about him that i like--well OK, hes not for gay marriage but thats going to happen sooner or later it seems like.

I don't expect much come Nov 4th, these voters will not vote for change, for all we know, these are the good old days right now. We have it much better then any near by state....I found that things are either too good to be true or if it is true, it won't last "forever", so enjoy what we have now, it might go downhill later on.
 

Skylor

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This is Saginaw county on private property. We have rules to follow. Simple manners ;)
Yea, cool, sounds like it be a blast, we need a big bonfire to keep warm--if possible. We don't need the FD over there, be enough smoke as is, lol

I can't wait.....not even going to think about the election, going to party before hand and enjoy life now, the future I can't change, I will vote straight D's Nov 4th cause I feel they care more about me then the R's do, IMO
 

TheMan13

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Mister Totten and several others have been invited or are a part of the the benefit dinner planned.
Hint hint
Wow, that would be quite a get!

http://www.marktotten.com/

I misspoke about Totten's academic experience earlier. He was not a law professor at UofM, but rather is currently (since 2008 ) an associate professor of law at Michigan State University's College of Law teaching criminal law and ethics.
 

TheMan13

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Totten also was a former federal prosecutor for the western district.
He simply volunteered (pro bono) as a prosecutor on a part time basis. That general assertion in his resume is something Schuette and the Republican party have been beating him up on. He's only 40 and his resume is what it is.

Polls are currently Schuette 43% vs Totten 33% with 19% undecided. Anything is still possible ...
 
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