Growing My Own Cocain Plants.

worm5376

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Growman: I think you are out of your league and you need to cool off with the preaching. This discussion is perfectly legit..

If you want to hop in on the discussion, by all means do, But don't come in here to spread your bullshit belief..

Go make a thread on it, all you are doing is making an ass out of yourself..:dunce:
 

tebor

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nature made cocca man made it in to coke and im sorry but tweekers imo are lower then scum because all they care about is that crap if you want to discuss it goto cokeitup.loser

you are the truest definition of a hypocrite.
This is a site for information, not for mean spirited people to pass judgment on others personal choices and to throw personal attacks at them.
Personal attacks are against site rules.

your statement is not backed by any logic or reason. It is DARE scare tactics.

I do want to discuss coca cultivation, and I'll do it right here. if you don't like it don't post in the thread.

every time some DARE program member like yourself posts an ignorant hypocritical comment in this thread, it bumps it to the top and helps spread the information. hahahahaha
 
Growman09,
Look at it this way, if it were legal (as it once was) and thus inexpensive, there wouldn't be any conflict caused by the drug. Everyone is allowed to make their own choices, and personally I feel that the right to do drugs was covered by the declaration of independence when Thomas Jefferson wrote that we all have the right to pursue life, liberty and happiness. Who is to say how we should go about pursuing that happiness so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else? Drugs exist in our society, and it makes no sense to descriminate against someone based on their drug of choice. In reality, cocaine in its powder form is far less harmful than alcohol, and it only poses the greatest risk of habituation in the form of crack. If it were not for prohibition, crack would have never been introduced as it would not have been necessary. Crack was developed for pragmatic reasons alone because it takes less raw cocaine to make crack than powder cocaine, and thus less needs to be smuggled into the country.

As for growing cocoa to make coke, I think its crazy, but hell in our current political environment, so is growing weed. The OP knows that and is obviously willing to assume that risk. I see nothing wrong with producing mind altering substances for personal consumption, isn't that what we are all here for anyways?
 

doitinthewoods

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Look idiot get the f%$* off this site u are a coke head if u are on this site talking about making it u are an addict. this site is for mj growers not coke heads that don't think there hooked. if ur not hooked why grow when u can go to a local dealer when you feel like doing it.MAN MADE DRUGS KILL PEOPLE IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.MJ IS THE ONLY THING I DO BECAUSE IT IS MOTHER NATURES WAY OF SAYIN HIGHHHH. METH COKE ECT IS THE DEVIL'S DANDER.good luck not hooked!!!!!
Who are you to tell anyone to get off the site? I've never met a coc head that grew coc, so how does making a thread about it make him an addict? So, you tell the guy to go buy coc from a dealer instead of attempting to produce it himself. It's highly unlikely that he could ever produce enough to do anything with it, but all he was asking was how to make it happen.

It's people like you who are quick to judge people and strike them down any chance you get because in your mind, you're right, and that's all that matters. There is no point in trying to explain anything to folks like you, because it goes in one ear and out the other. YOU, my friend,.. people like you are the root of the problem with the human race.

Why is it that some people can't talk about ANYTHING without it involving some form of intervention or involvement from a divine figure like "god" or "the devil" ?
 

growman09

Active Member
and i didnt personally attack anyone i simply posted my opinion (remember this is usa im allowed my own opinion) and i have watched this drug destroy several lives of family and frinds so i do have an opimion on the subject and if you notice this is a mmj forum nut medical coke forum and tweekers r some of the scariest poeple out there you never know what thyre capable of IMO
 

southern homegrower

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and i didnt personally attack anyone i simply posted my opinion (remember this is usa im allowed my own opinion) and i have watched this drug destroy several lives of family and frinds so i do have an opimion on the subject and if you notice this is a mmj forum nut medical coke forum and tweekers r some of the scariest poeple out there you never know what thyre capable of IMO
you dont know what anyone is capable of under the right situation
 

clasonde

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i love how tebor's only response to other people's opinions on refined cocaine is: "DARE scare tactics" or just tossing "DARE" into everything...

way to pry on a person's subconscious.

its like that family guy when peter works the for tobacco industry; each tobacco commercial had a guy pop up for 5 seconds saying,"Smoooke". don't you just love repetitive subliminal messaging.
 

clasonde

Active Member
Growman09,
Look at it this way, if it were legal (as it once was) and thus inexpensive, there wouldn't be any conflict caused by the drug. Everyone is allowed to make their own choices, and personally I feel that the right to do drugs was covered by the declaration of independence when Thomas Jefferson wrote that we all have the right to pursue life, liberty and happiness. Who is to say how we should go about pursuing that happiness so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else? Drugs exist in our society, and it makes no sense to descriminate against someone based on their drug of choice. In reality, cocaine in its powder form is far less harmful than alcohol, and it only poses the greatest risk of habituation in the form of crack. If it were not for prohibition, crack would have never been introduced as it would not have been necessary. Crack was developed for pragmatic reasons alone because it takes less raw cocaine to make crack than powder cocaine, and thus less needs to be smuggled into the country.

As for growing cocoa to make coke, I think its crazy, but hell in our current political environment, so is growing weed. The OP knows that and is obviously willing to assume that risk. I see nothing wrong with producing mind altering substances for personal consumption, isn't that what we are all here for anyways?
i dont see alcohol binding itself to your dopamine receptors, or altering brain chemistry to make you body think you need cocaine.

alcohol is an addictive depressant; it takes a lot longer to form a physical addiction compared to drinking your problems away with the mental aspect of it.

constant use of cocaine causes it to be physically and mentally addictive.
 
i dont see alcohol binding itself to your dopamine receptors, or altering brain chemistry to make you body think you need cocaine.

alcohol is an addictive depressant; it takes a lot longer to form a physical addiction compared to drinking your problems away with the mental aspect of it.

constant use of cocaine causes it to be physically and mentally addictive.
Well, you're certainly correct, and both alcohol and cocaine are physically and mentally addictive. On the flip side, cocaine withdrawals are a completely different animal compared to alcohol, and aren't nearly as severe, however cocaine has a much greater potential to reinforce abuse habits, particularly due to the depression the follows with cessation. However, nothing can compare to the severity of alcohol withdrawals, and almost nothing can compare to the organ damage caused by alcohol abuse. Alcohol also alter brain chemistry quite substantially, it just acts on a different neurotransmitter (GABA), that frankly is a really dangerous regulatory system to toy with. I'm not saying that people should snort lines instead of taking shots, I'm just trying to point out that too often individuals pick and choose which drugs should and shouldn't be used based on completely arbitrary subjectivity.
 

tebor

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i love how tebor's only response to other people's opinions on refined cocaine is: "DARE scare tactics" or just tossing "DARE" into everything...

way to pry on a person's subconscious.

its like that family guy when peter works the for tobacco industry; each tobacco commercial had a guy pop up for 5 seconds saying,"Smoooke". don't you just love repetitive subliminal messaging.
Why belittle me?
If you had paid attention to the thread, you would see that this has not been my only response.
I provided data,links, and sources(including university studies).
Accusing people of DARE scare tactics is a last resort used only for those that have chosen to ignore the data and attempt to convince us that coke is the worst thing ever.
Or judge people for their personal choices, that dont affect anyone else.

The last guy i accused of using DARE scare tactics said 'all coke users are lower than scum'.
why? for making a personal decision that affects him in no way?


get off my nuts and go back to your DARE program.

Save your preaching for the Religion board.

to all would-be posters, if all you have is judgment and criticism, Please refrain from posting and start your own thread. this thread is about growing coca plants. Not what is your opinion about people that use cocaine or you will become addicted if you use cocaine.


 

tebor

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and i didnt personally attack anyone i simply posted my opinion (remember this is usa im allowed my own opinion) and i have watched this drug destroy several lives of family and frinds so i do have an opimion on the subject and if you notice this is a mmj forum nut medical coke forum and tweekers r some of the scariest poeple out there you never know what thyre capable of IMO
this is the Gardening other things beside marijuana section of the forum in case you didnt notice








Interestin tidbit

To this day, Coca-Cola uses as an ingredient a cocaine-free coca leaf extract prepared at a Stepan Company plant in Maywood, New Jersey. In the United States, Stepan Company is the only manufacturing plant authorized by the Federal Government to import and process the coca plant, which it obtains mainly from Peru and, to a lesser extent, Bolivia. Besides producing the coca flavoring agent for Coca-Cola, Stepan Company extracts cocaine from the coca leaves, which it sells to Mallinckrodt, a St. Louis, Missouri pharmaceutical manufacturer that is the only company in the United States licensed to purify cocaine for medicinal use. Stepan Company buys about 100 metric tons of dried Peruvian coca leaves each year, according to Marco Castillo, spokesman for Peru's state-owned National Coca Co
 

jnuggs

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I agree with tebor and nowitall.
People make all the choices they make in life. It is NOT a substance, or any other thing, that influences the choice. It can't influence. It's inanimate. YOU as the person make the CHOICE to ALLOW it to influence you. I am the guy who eats the whole box of oreos. I'm the guy who goes all out all the time. And yet somehow every time I've ever needed to, or wanted to, I've been able to quit everything.The shitty part about that is you always have the people who want to say "yeah but how long did you quit?" Then their argument can always go far as to say "yeah but you used again". It's crazy, I've rolled hundreds upon hundreds of ecstacy pills. Coke, weed, booze, alcohol. All of it. Do you know what I'm most addicted to after all those drugs? LIFE!! I fucking LOVE LIFE. And I LOVE feeling! I have lost NO love for this world or it's people.
But for those of you who would still like to run with the whole "coke influences decisions..." etc type of thoughts. Dude... METH is FAR worse. I smoked meth for a couple years off n on. And I NEVER was addicted to it.
I hope we can turn this thread around from being OPINIONS to FACTS. I am truly sorry for those of you who could not handle cocaine, truly I am. It is a sad day when you see that someone has lost control of themself, of their life. But some people have gambling problems that are far more devestating to their life than drugs have been for others. Ever heard of someone dying over gambling debts?? Ah shit! the game of poker is THE DEVIL'S GAME!!! I bet he was coked out when he made up the game too!!
 

w1ckedchowda

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HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA. Nooooo, no one ever died (got killed) over gambling debts.:dunce:
wana make a bet? ;-)

i love how tebor's only response to other people's opinions on refined cocaine is: "DARE scare tactics" or just tossing "DARE" into everything...

way to pry on a person's subconscious.

its like that family guy when peter works the for tobacco industry; each tobacco commercial had a guy pop up for 5 seconds saying,"Smoooke". don't you just love repetitive subliminal messaging.
HEYYYY a Family Guy whiz! So I'm sure you didn't miss the episode where Peter tried sueing the Burger restaurant for having a stroke, CAUSED BY eating 30 hamburgers.

You put the hamburger in your mouth. You put the coke up your nose.

Now please, let's get this nonsense thread back on track and just answer the mans question.
 

qptyqpty

Active Member
this is the Gardening other things beside marijuana section of the forum in case you didnt notice

Interestin tidbit

To this day, Coca-Cola uses as an ingredient a cocaine-free coca leaf extract prepared at a Stepan Company plant in Maywood, New Jersey. In the United States, Stepan Company is the only manufacturing plant authorized by the Federal Government to import and process the coca plant, which it obtains mainly from Peru and, to a lesser extent, Bolivia. Besides producing the coca flavoring agent for Coca-Cola, Stepan Company extracts cocaine from the coca leaves, which it sells to Mallinckrodt, a St. Louis, Missouri pharmaceutical manufacturer that is the only company in the United States licensed to purify cocaine for medicinal use. Stepan Company buys about 100 metric tons of dried Peruvian coca leaves each year, according to Marco Castillo, spokesman for Peru's state-owned National Coca Co

Agreed, this is not a thread debating morality. It is about growing a coca plant.

Still off the topic though, I rather enjoy knowing this tidchunk of information; It seems coca cola had to have lobbied with .Gov to be the only company above the law, and due to this little keyhole, pharmaceutical lobbyists were able to squirm one little cocaine company in.

This opens another ball of worms. Are they Gov funded? What we need is more information regarding what Stepan uses the cocaine for, in such quantity. Is cocaine (as well as opium) going into pharmaceuticals as an additive? What does the addition of this ingredient cause in the end product?

Well, I just want to know what its used for, and why some company can use it but private citizens cant.
 
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