Growing My Own Cocain Plants.

i am sorry tebor, but i am a recovering cocaine addict and it is impossible to not become addicted to it. you say you know people who "occasionally" use it, try putting a half in front of them and see if they can use it "sparingly". cocaine is both a mental AND physical addiction, so if your not using it to get high or for energy your brain creates chemicals that make it so you are in need of cocaine; example: withdrawls.

and i strongly disagree with you saying that it is less harmful then using alcohol and tobacco. YES consistent use of alcohol will lead liver failure, heart disease, major depression, anger, and a lot of other fucked up things. i personally have had a lot of friends DIE from using cocaine, not just from overdosing, but the drug LITERALLY eats away at your heart tissue.

also when you said that cocaine is LESS addictive than ADD meds, thats bullshit. i abused many prescription medications over my years of drug abuse and i have NEVER experienced anything as addicting, mind controlling, and life ruining than cocaine. i still have a lot a old friends that cant get out of the hell they have put themselves into because of using cocaine "occasionally".

its also not completely true that most overdoses are because of impurities in cocaine. different body types, personality types, millions of other factors can make cocaine LETHAL.

i also know a lot of "successful" business owners and ceo's of companies that use cocaine. are they happy? no, which ultimately leads to more cocaine abuse.

the president of bolivia, one of the biggest cocaine distributing countries, WOULD chew the cocoa leaf as he probably is linked to the fortune followed with the selling of drugs.
before you go stating all these "facts" why dont you stop abusing cocaine and live a happy life without the devil's candy.

ps people KILL for 5 dollars so they can buy a rock, so how is it "not nearly as bad as tobacco or alcohol"? you dont see drunks or cig smokers killing for a 6 pack or a pack of ciggarettes.

and yes it has been used for centuries, the mayans used to chew the leaf before going on a hunt so they would have more energy all day. but if we are looking into the past then i suggest you heal your next cut with maggots seeing as they did that also.

edit: cocaine use eats away at your nasal cavity. i have a permanent deviated septum caused by this and get nose bleeds and sinus infections very easily; it blows.

look up people who are cocaine addicts, then look at the rap sheets associated with it, then look at they physical appearance change after consist use of this DRUG.
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excess of water will kill you too... you'll drown...

I used to have A LOT in the drawer at all times... and I am not kidding...

And yet I CHOSE when to use it...

Weak minds will be weak regardless of drugs....

try to stop for 6 months, when you sweat, get the shakes, and are in a bad mood then you will see the light. it doesnt matter how often you use it, it alters chemicals in your brain.

do some reading.

GypsyBush said:

excess of water will kill you too... you'll drown...

I used to have A LOT in the drawer at all times... and I am not kidding...

And yet I CHOSE when to use it...

Weak minds will be weak regardless of drugs....

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I remember a few years back, a woman died of drinking an excessive amount of water during a contest that she entered on the radio.

I also remember a nurse calling the radio show , telling her that it was dangerous to do so, and she's was putting her life in jeopardy

i believe i heard somewhere that like you would die if you drank over 1 gallon of water or more depending on your body type.

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SACRAMENTO, Calif. - A woman who competed in a radio station’s contest to see how much water she could drink without going to the bathroom died of water intoxication, the coroner’s office said Saturday.
Jennifer Strange, 28, was found dead Friday in her suburban Rancho Cordova home hours after taking part in the “Hold Your Wee for a Wii” contest in which KDND 107.9 promised a Nintendo Wii video game system for the winner.
“She said to one of our supervisors that she was on her way home and her head was hurting her real bad,” said Laura Rios, one of Strange’s co-workers at Radiological Associates of Sacramento. “She was crying and that was the last that anyone had heard from her.”

clasonde said:

try to stop for 6 months, when you sweat, get the shakes, and are in a bad mood then you will see the light. it doesnt matter how often you use it, it alters chemicals in your brain.

do some reading.

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Oh! my brain is COMPLETELY ALTERED..

But isn't that why we do drugs????

If you have an addictive personality, you will get the shakes... after a lot of ABUSE..

But if you are a casual user... there's no shakes bro...lol...

but then again, some people can quit smoking and some can't...

addiction is a problem in itself...

scientifically speaking there is no such thing as an addictive personality. but on the other hand people that substitute other things for stress relief do develop a mental addiction; i.e. marijuana for example its not physically addictive but some people cant stop smoking pot because it helps them handle stress or other related problems.

i know i cant and i wont try to influence anyone's opinions on cocaine use, but if you don't mind why do you do it? and if you can choose to do it, do you think or have you tried to choose not to do it?

i dont mean to offend anyone who is pro-cocaine, but more of a worrying and sense of care for people that are chained to using it and become blind of their own abuse. like i said earlier, i am a recovering cocaine addict, i dont have an "addictive personality", if anything my adhd prohibits me from doing so, but it literally ran my life for years and i have never been more happy, content and spiritually enlightened without it.

I am not PRO cocaine...

In fact I haven't used any in YEARS... many years...

What I am against though is people pointing fingers at something that is nothing but a smokescreen ...

PROHIBITION DOES NOT WORK... period.

agreed prohibition does create bigger problems then before. i did start off on the wrong foot when i first posted in this forum, mainly because i was initially infuriated by tebor trying to say that is basically harmless. i also responded to you incorrectly because i misunderstood what you said seeing as i have never met a casual cocaine user, but hey first time for everything i guess.

kudos for not doing it for awhile, what made you stop?

also on a side note, its an incredibly expensive and stressful habit.

clasonde said:

agreed prohibition does create bigger problems then before. i did start off on the wrong foot when i first posted in this forum, mainly because i was initially infuriated by tebor trying to say that is basically harmless. i also responded to you incorrectly because i misunderstood what you said seeing as i have never met a casual cocaine user, but hey first time for everything i guess.

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No worries...

kudos for not doing it for awhile, what made you stop?

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It's kinda like eating bananas... sometimes I feel like it... sometimes I don't...

Just haven't felt like in a while... but I am not against doing IF I feel like it and it is any good...

also on a side note, its an incredibly expensive

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Depends where you live...

and stressful habit.

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depends how you get/use it...

it is impossible to not become addicted to it.

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not true at all. misinformation is harmful.

and i strongly disagree with you saying that it is less harmful then using alcohol and tobacco.

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I provided 2 links to studies that support the statement

its also not completely true that most overdoses are because of impurities in cocaine

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iits not the impurities. its the inconsistency in purity. one batch being much stronger than the last batch so people don't dose properly.

I've used many drugs responsibly for years and have never became addicted . Not even to tobacco which I still use occasional

i dont use cocaine anymore, I just order the leaves from Peru and chew them.

scientifically speaking there is no such thing as an addictive personality

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The speed with which a given individual becomes addicted to various substances varies with the substance, the frequency of use, the means of ingestion, the intensity of pleasure or euphoria, and the individual's genetic and psychological susceptibility.

coke is fucked

good stuff.... didnt expect this thread to take off like this lol.

tebor said:

Many of the most successful people I know use cocaine occasionally. Sorry "your people" cant handle a drug that is less harmful than alcohol and tobacco.

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i never had a problem with alcohol. or tobacco. neither of these drugs had me contemplating robbing my employer at 4:00 in the morning either. neither of them devoured my spirit or my soul. neither of them had me hearing 'angels' or spirits telling me, "stop, don't do this, for the sake of humanity - you must not do this". neither of them had me laying awake at night knowing that if i 'fell asleep' i'd probably not wake up again. neither of them caused me to go down to a weight of less than 120 lbs. neither of them caused me to end up in jail. neither of them had me looking in the mirror after using an 8-ball in one sitting via eating it, putting it into my nose, smoking the shite out of it, etc... until i could look into the mirror and see a face filled with absolute disgust and loathing ... and mentally, physically... i still wanted MOAR.

Good luck with your recreational use of the White Devil.
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sounds like you abused it pretty good....

andar said:

it would be great but this is not going to happen. everybody would do it if it were easy . you need a good background in chemistry to make cocaine from the plant. there would not be a huge violence problem in north and south america if you could do it. and if you did get caught the boys in blue woulds show no mercy

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the chemistry involved in extracting the cocaine alkaloids from the leaves does not require a background in chemistry. it requires none at alll, just the directions and common sense. its easier then making meth, not to mention safer and with less chemicals. instructions are online and if you have common sense and know how to read, this process can be done within a few hours easy.

growing your own is better then buying leaves due to the fact the alkaloids break down quickly once the leaves are harvested. but i agree with the others, you would need a good amount of plants. if you had a garden that was about 50ft by 50ft you'd be able to get a good amount. not that it wouldnt be worth it as everyone said, but logic dictates the more land you have the more you could grow. that goes without saying

just grow weed fuck tryin to grow coca thats not what this site is for im sure that i am not alone about that

clasonde said:

try to stop for 6 months, when you sweat, get the shakes, and are in a bad mood then you will see the light. it doesnt matter how often you use it, it alters chemicals in your brain.

do some reading.

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so does coffee, nicotine, alchohol.

try to stop for six months after what??
i do coke about once a year, and when its gone its gone, and i dont care.

you know what the secret is, not being fucking retarded. if you do coke everyday for 3 weeks, your gonna have issues, hell 3 days is bad enough. but the same can be said for alchohol, go get sgitfaced drunk everyday for 3 weeks then quite cold turkey "when you sweat, get the shakes, and are in a bad mood then you will see the light."

people get addicted to shit becuase they lie to themselves, oh im stronger than everyone else, sure it hurts them but it wont hurt me, i can quite anytime, not today but anytime i want, no probly not next week either.

damn near everybody in this thread jumped straight to conclussions that this guy is trying to be the next pablo escabar, he asked about personal supply, not a way to screw the zeta's out of theyre cut. its evil its evil, fucking grow up, an innanimate object cannot have any abstractions applied as a descriptive. what you mean is cocaine makes you evil.

heres a nice alagory. guns are murderers. its not the people shooting them, its the gun, if it werent for that gun they would never have even thought of it.

wait wait heres another. KY jelly is a rapist, if it werent for KY jelly nobody would get raped in prison.

you wanna get pissed at coke brah, i feel ya, i wish i had something i could blame all the stupid shit ive done on. cuz that would be sweet if i could just tell folks "the coke made me do it" then id never have accept personal responsibility for my actions again. and i bet if i tried hard enough i could even convince them that the first time i did coke was the cokes idea.

or u could try the adam and eve aproach.
no way, you didnt want us to eat THAT apple. but its not our fualt, a talking snake made us do it. hey its not our fault we ate the apple, its the apples fault for being where i could reach it.

and i well understand emotional baggage, ive lost dozens of friends to alchohol, but i dont blame the beer, ive lost 6 to motorcycle accidents, and yet i manage to not blame the motorcycle, ive lost 2 to heroin, and i dont blame the needle, 3 heart attacks, 4 shooting,2 stabbing, 1 missing, and i blame neither butter, bullets, metal, or the bermuda triangle.

coke didnt shove coke up your nose, you did that.

there is no drug that can make you do something thats not already in you. pretend as you wish. the only person or object responsible for your actions is you.

and stop pushing the whole, its all cokes fault if it werent for coke i wouldnt be nearly stupid enough to do coke.

by the by. i apologize, i know im rambling , and probly insensitive and offensive, but its not MY fault, im on medication. and i think weve already established its cool to blame our actions on the first thing we think we can get someone else to beleive.