Growing My Own Cocain Plants.

estesj

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i tried growing cream corn , opened at least 10 cans and burried 10 rows 15 ft long ,nothing came up , i'm looking forward to the pickeled pepers i'm planting this spring
Yea I tried to plant some mexican jumping beans to start a construction crew but no mexicans have sprouted yet!
 

robert 14617

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there is a fucking red neck carington , he talks about him and his wife having a kid that is mexican , they are both white he said that kid could cut the shit out of a yard at 8 mo. old he is thinking about having another mexican kid..............
 

razoredge

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I have done it in the past as a challenge.. got them in Mexico.. they where nice, I used the milk balls to dip my J's in and get the cloud feel
 

erbalis

Member
Yea I tried to plant some mexican jumping beans to start a construction crew but no mexicans have sprouted yet!
LOLOL..

On a serious note, :shock:some JD advice for the author of the thread... If you would like a fairly respectable tenure as a prison inmate, go ahead and attempt to grow poppy, and or cocoa plants..... If by some, highly-improbable chance, you do some how succeed at cultivating enough poppy and or cocoa plants to even tickle your veins or barely powder your nose, you will get robbed or locked up. ( most likely robbed and THEN locked up- then ass raped by the "papis" that found out you were attempting to cut them out of the market)

Biggie laid it all out for you~

"Fuck it, buy the coke
Cook the coke, cut it
Know the bitch 'fore you caught yourself lovin' it":clap:
 

NOWitall

Active Member
lord amighty folks

we are all in agreement that commercial production of either coca or poppies in the us would be very difficult.

although. i am shocked to find out growing coca or poppies is illegal in the states.
i had always just assumed we didnt do it cuz were fat and lazy.
live and learn.

next thing you know itll be illegal to grow pot in america.

which will be a shame, cuz we all know how law abiding us citizens are.
i mean if they made growing weed illegal i bet nobody would do it,
i mean who would risk going to jail just to grow a plant.

good thing i found out now cuz i already had 40 acres plowed, with a plan to put in coca sprouts next week.
 

400Whps

Active Member
might as well get some opium poppies!!!scrape that icky brown resin and smoke it in your bowl.......dirty
 

tebor

Well-Known Member
I've known several folks to grow coca plants successfully in the U.S.
Seeds are available online.

anyone that says you can't is just repeating something they read or assuming.


You could easily grow enough for occasional use, but not to be a kingpen, as you will have to bring the plants in during temps under 50 degrees F.
there are varieties that produce alkoloids in lower elevations. Not as potent as as the higher altitude varieties. but still potent enough to make it worth your time.

If you wanna chew leaves, they can also be ordered online , as well as boxes of coca tea bags for making coca tea.
the teas is kinda gross but gives a nice buzz.


Copy and Paste growing tips:
Growing Coca



Coca is traditionally cultivated in the Andes, in the highlands, but also in lower altitudes, on the easter slopes of the Andes, where it is an important trade commodity. Species vary according to location, climate and altitude. There are also quite a few varieties of wild or feral coca plantes near traditional growing areas, notably in the Amazon basin. In the late 19th and early 20th century, coca was also tentatively tranplanted to numerous places, in European ethnobotanical gardens, India and Ceylon, and as far as South-East Asia ( Java/Indonesia, Formosa / Taiwan), West Africa ( Cameroon) and Australia, in various growing experiments. These transplantation and growing experiments were planned and organised by colonial powers ( the U.K., Holland, France, Germany and Japan), and motivated by cocaine production.
In traditional Andean cultivation contexts, coca seeds are sown from December to January in small growing plots (almacigas in Quechua), where the plants are sheltered from direct sunlight. Young plants reaching 40–60 cm in height are finally replanted in carefully weeded soil, either in holes (aspi), or furrows (uachos) if the ground is level.
Best coca leaves are said to come from dry, high altitude growing areas, on hillsides and valleys, but coca also thrives in damp and humid situations, such as the clearings of tropical forests. Some varieties also produce large quantities of active alkaloids in such conditions ( Amazonian coca)
The leaves are harvested from plants of various ages, from 1/2 year old to plants over forty year old, but only the new fresh leaf growth is harvested. Leaves that break when they are twisted are considered ready for harvesting. There are two or three coca harvests a year, depending on the area, the first and most abundant harvest being in March, after the rains ( which tends to weaken alkaloid production), the second usually at the end of June, and a third potential harvest in October or November. Coca leaves are semi dried, in the sun, green leaves (matu in Quechua) are spread in thin layers on mats, straw or coarse woolen cloths, and left to dry. Dry leaves are then packed into sacks, and stored in dry conditions to preserve leaf quality.

One of the main historical difficulties faced by late 19th / early 20th century botanists as they tried to adapt coca plants outside their original habitat was that the alkaloid production would quickly become minimal. This was mainly due to differences in atmosperic pressure, which lead people to think that it was not possible to grow alkaloid producing coca plants at low altitudes. However, while this connection is verified for species growing in the very high altitudes of the Andes, pressure and altitude being closely linked to the level of alkaloid production and most E. coca growing at lower altitude being less potent than high-altitude Andean coca, the erythroxylum coca family is quite diverse, and cross breeding between low and high altitude native strains has given birth to plants capable of producing a good concentration of alkaloids at much lower altitudes and atmospheric pressure.

Another example is the very successful transplantation experiment that has come to be known as Java coca. The British and Dutch where trying to find suitable growing areas for cocaine producing coca in their colonies, in the height of the late 19th century coca boom, and two successful experiments where Ceylon, and Indonesia / Java.
Java soon became a major coca growing area, for medical cocaine production, almost overtaking South American growing operations, and this lasted until the 1930's. Interestingly enough, Japan, due to its expansionist political history, took over parts of the Dutch empire and became the world's 3rd cocaine-from Java coca producer until WWII. Japan also transplanted coca in other colonies, such as the island of Formosa ( Taiwan)

This is to say that coca can be grown outside of South America and produce good concentrations of alkaloids, but that this is strongly related to the strain used. E. Coca species also vary not only in alkaloid concentration but also in the makeup of their alkaloid spectrum. This changes the coca "chewing" experience (another proof that cocaine is not the only active alkaloid when it comes to the psychophysiological effects of coca) but has little inflience on cocaine HCl extraction procedures.
Erythroxylum coca and e. novogranatense can be grown outside in many locations... they are hardy down to 10° celsius and up to 30° celsius.
In general, coca requires acidic soil.


This section below still needs to be compiled and written.



Should include general text on making … and one or more how to grow … TEK’s. Difficulties(diseases, molds, infection, etc with growing)

According to Michael Valentine Smith ( Psychedelic Chemistry)

1. Seeds should be planted as soon as they fall from the bush. If they dry out, they will die right away. The only way to keep them for a maximum of about two weeks, is to keep them in moist (not wet) sphagnum in a cool place. Often this initiates germination, so they must be watched for rot or premature germination. Under no circumstances should they be kept dry, since even room humidity is too dry.
2. Vermiculite seems to be the best medium for coca germination, fine grade if possible. Styrofoam cups are OK, but I prefer small plastic pots, 2"diameter, with holes in the bottom. Seeds should be planted no deeper than one inch. Pots should be raised so as not to saturate the medium. Coca, whether as a seedling or a mature plant, never likes to have wet feet. I think it is better to start them in small pots rather than flats, so there is less damage to the root system when they are transplanted. Forget the hot pad -- I think it is completely unnecessary. Seedlings usually come up in 2 to 4 weeks if they are viable.
3. Since most people don't have enough room in their shower stalls for plants, I'd say forget this one, too. Seeds will germinate in any warm place, even if the humidity is not too great. A better idea is to place your germination pots in a terrarium with a coarse gravel layer on the bottom. Do not seal over and allow plenty of ventilation if you choose to place a layer of glass over the terrarium. Any box of this sort will do. If possible, place a Growlux fluorescent fixture, with two 40 W bulbs, over the terrarium, especially after seeds germinate. A common problem at this state is etiolation (too little light) which makes the plantlets weak and very susceptible to damping off, a fungus attack of the tender stems.
4. Water the seeds when the vermiculite starts to dry out. Once a day is probably too often, unless you live in a very dry apartment. But if the drainage is good and you have plenty of holes in the bottom of the pots, excess water should drain off. Fungal attack is a real problem in a humid atmosphere and another reason for keeping the plants out of your shower, a basically unhygenic place for plants.
5. Transplanting: plantlets can remain in vermiculite starting pots until they are about 2-3 inches tall. The growlights should be about a foot above the plants. I do not recommend clay pots at this stage. They dry out too fast, especially in a dry apartment. Even in one day, a fast-drying shock can kill your plants. It is better to move into plastic pots, but the size should be increased gradually. A big pot is not necessarily good for a small plant, in fact it is not a good idea at all. From styrofoam cups, I suggest a two-inch pot, then increase 1-2 inches per transplanting.
6. Soil mixture: forget the vermiculite from now on. It holds too much moisture and makes for saturated, unhealthy soil. I suggest the following: 0.25 coarse clean sand, 0.25 perlite, 0.25 sterilized loam, and 0.25 milled peat. If this seems too light, increase loam and peat. Some sterilized organic compost, screened, may also be added for nutrition.
7. Even when the plants are still in vermiculite, feeding with soluble plant food is recommended. They are heavy feeders and every three weeks or more often is not too often to fertilize. When plants are older it is important to give them iron in the form of iron chelate, available as a red powder sold as KEELATE on the West Coast. A yellow powder, not as good, is sold as SEQUESTRENE. This element should be added about every six months, but strictly according to instructions. Soil must be flushed three times after applying the dissolved iron compound to avoid burning roots. Most yellowed or bleached out leaves are caused by iron deficiency, but this also occurs when plants go deciduous. Periodically, the whole coca bush turns yellow and drops its leaves, every one. Most people freak out when this happens, but if it is otherwise a healthy, vigorous plant, then this is normal. After dropping, new flushes soon appear to renew the foliage. This is more likely to happen with Erythroxylum coca than with E. novogranatense.
8. Transplanting depends on the size of the plant and how fast it is growing. If you think your plant needs transplanting, look at the holes in the bottom of the pot to see if any roots are present. If so, then the roots have probably filled the pot and it is time. You can also carefully de-pot the plant by tapping upside down on a table edge. Repotting is probably unnecessary unless the roots have encircled the inner periphery of the pot. Again, the size of the pot should be increased gradually for best growth.
9. Watering: most city water, is unsuitable for coca. They are calciphobes and don't like heavy salts in the water. Best to use rainwater, melted snow, bottled spring water or distilled water if they are available. Plants should only be watered if the soil dries out. Stick your finger in the soil. If it feels moist, don't water.
10. Bugs: coca is amazingly resistant to insects and mites. Mealy bugs are the worst offenders. These may be removed with a forceps or cotton swab dipped in 50-70% alcohol. Keep infested plants in quarantine. Malathion may be used as a last resort, but then leaves cannot be used until the next flush (of leaves).
11 Light: warm, sunny exposure indoors. Full sun (through a window) will not hurt plantlets over 3 inches tall. But no full sun outdoors until they are 3 feet tall. If plants are put out in the summer, they should be protected from sun, rain, and wind, until they are large and strong. Put them in a shady place first, under a tree, etc., end gradually move to a sunnier location. Breezes are good for plants and even indoors a fan on low should be directed towards the plants. It makes them stronger.
12. Plants can also be grown entirely under growlights, or a combination of growlights and window light. Most apartments are not sunny enough for strong growth, so especially in winter, give the plants accessory light. Growlux Widespectrum Tubes seem to work well. I use one Growlux and one regular Sylvania Lifeline tube in each fixture. They work very well. The lamps are suspended 6 inches to one foot above larger plants.
13. Careful removal of the older leaves does not harm plants, but they should be strong and healthy to allow this, and probably three years old if grown indoors.
14. Coca does not like extremes of any kind. 50° F. is the lowest permissible temperature, 90° F. the highest. Sudden temperature changes are especially damaging. Likewise, sudden changes in air humidity or soil moisture. E. novogranatense tolerates extremes, especially droughts, better than E. coca, which is a much more delicate plant, but the one which produces the most alkaloid.
15. Coca cuttings root very poorly. some guys have managed to root some E. novogranatense cuttings only after six months in perlite with an initial application of Hormodin #1 rooting hormone. It is better to fertilize your flowers and plant seed. Some varieties are self-compatible (self-fertilizing). Others require two plants of different stylar lengths (long styled x short styled) to produce seed. This is routinely accomplished by bees and other insects in the greenhouse during the summer months and can be done with a fine artists brush at home, merely by dusting pollen from flowers on one plant to those on another with opposite stylar form. In California, outdoor cultivation of coca is possible only around San Diego, if there. Trujillo Coca would probably do well there under irrigation and intensive care. Elsewhere, forget it. I do not subscribe to growing it commercially indoors and doubt if the produce would be worthwhile. Greenhouse and apartment grown leaf is very inferior in flavor and potency. Fresh air and sunshine are in order (as with Cannabis).

Additional Notes



1. When plants are sprouting, it is OK to have several of them in the same pot -- a 5-inch clay pot will do for between 4 and 7 sprouts. When they reach at least two inches tall, it is good to transplant them into individual pots using the soil mixture recommended earlier.
2. In handling the young plants, no matter how tall or short they are, always be careful not to touch the young plants or to touch them as little as possible, particularly on the roots and on the tips of the stems. The tips of the stems are where the shoots come from that allow the plant to grow, and even when the plant is mature, never touch the end of the stems and never remove the leaves that cling precariously to the end of the stem.
3. Don't freak out when the plants go deciduous, usually about a year or a year and a half from sprouting. They drop almost all their leaves except the ones at the tip of the stems, turn yellow and mottled, and you think they're dying. They're not -- in fact, they're growing! Within a few days, little spike-shaped green sprouts will appear, and tiny, usually white, flowers. After a few years, the flowers will start producing little seedpods, roundish oval shaped green pods that the flower may still cling to. These then dry and turn slowly red on the plant, reaching a bright red like a cherry-colored coffee fruit, which contains the albumin and nourishment for the tiny seed in the center. Usually the shrubs will go through the leaf-fall several times, about once every 2 or 3 months, before the seedpods appear. Don't expect seeds until the plant is 3 to 5 years old.
4. Back to when the plants are still sprouts. Every day -- usually in the morning, but it depends on what fits your schedule best -once a day, flush the pots with clean water, preferably rainwater or distilled. Literally hold the whole pot (without its saucer) under very gently flowing water poured into the vermiculite or soil without touching the plant. The soil or medium should almost let the water drain straight through, retaining moisture but not water in the medium. This is the way to "water" a young plant. When they get older, you can just water them regularly like any other plant, but lightly, daily.
5. The most important thing in tending young plants is to keep the temperature even and constant, day and night, around 64° F. They can stand slightly higher or lower temperatures but they can't stand shifting temperatures.
6. Once the plants get to be above a foot, they are pretty well established. After that first scary leaf-dropping, you will learn to recognize that process when it happens as described in Note 3 above. There is a different phenomenon that looks somewhat similar that happens to plants if they go through a sudden temperature change, especially if it gets cold suddenly or if they are exposed to cold fog and winds without much warm sunlight. In this case, the leaves very quickly become dry and crinkled and, turn deep brown and yellow-brown mottling, at first on their leaf tips and soon covering the whole leaf. This means your plant is about to die. The only thing to do is to lightly spray the leaves with pure (not tap) water and keep the plants at a constant warm temperature and talk to them and keep careful watch on them. Don't over-water, but keep the leaves themselves warm and moist. The plant has a 50% chance for recovery.
 

tebor

Well-Known Member
LOLOL..

On a serious note, :shock:some JD advice for the author of the thread... If you would like a fairly respectable tenure as a prison inmate, go ahead and attempt to grow poppy, and or cocoa plants..... If by some, highly-improbable chance, you do some how succeed at cultivating enough poppy and or cocoa plants to even tickle your veins or barely powder your nose, you will get robbed or locked up. ( most likely robbed and THEN locked up- then ass raped by the "papis" that found out you were attempting to cut them out of the market)

Biggie laid it all out for you~

"Fuck it, buy the coke
Cook the coke, cut it
Know the bitch 'fore you caught yourself lovin' it":clap:
Growing poppy is perfectly legal in the United States.
You can buy seeds at many nurseries and Ebay.
when you score the pod it then becomes illegal.

It also doesnt take much area to grow enough for personal tea making.
You can legally order pods online.

also cocaine is a schedule 2 while marijuana is a schedule 1. cultivating marijuana will bring harsher sentence than cultivating cocaine.

why are people so quick to spread wrong information.
 

tebor

Well-Known Member
lord amighty folks

we are all in agreement that commercial production of either coca or poppies in the us would be very difficult.

although. i am shocked to find out growing coca or poppies is illegal in the states.
i had always just assumed we didnt do it cuz were fat and lazy.
live and learn.

next thing you know itll be illegal to grow pot in america.

which will be a shame, cuz we all know how law abiding us citizens are.
i mean if they made growing weed illegal i bet nobody would do it,
i mean who would risk going to jail just to grow a plant.

good thing i found out now cuz i already had 40 acres plowed, with a plan to put in coca sprouts next week.

Growing poppies is not illegal!!!!!
 

tebor

Well-Known Member
might as well get some opium poppies!!!scrape that icky brown resin and smoke it in your bowl.......dirty

There is nothing dirty about scraping opium, although making tea is better experience than smoking imo




Delicious.
 

tebor

Well-Known Member
it would be great but this is not going to happen. everybody would do it if it were easy . you need a good background in chemistry to make cocaine from the plant. there would not be a huge violence problem in north and south america if you could do it. and if you did get caught the boys in blue woulds show no mercy
it actually takes very little knowledge of chemistry to extract cocaine from the leaves.
It is quite simple.
as easy as making a cake actually.


To the OP, this thread is fucked and full of bad information.
If you want some quality info on any drugs other than marijuana, come over to the hallucinatory substances section of the forum.
 

sunahura

Active Member
just get some seeds and grow the shit, nine times out of ten, you can grow anything if you study the shit, high elevation, just mean thin air, so thin the damn air. get a green house (inside or out) and just grow the shit, even if you produce a little, it's a start.

Why not try to grow it, If you fail, you still win.

Ain't nothing like farming!;-)
 
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