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GroErr
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Not pushing it in total ppm but do adjust for strains, don't go beyond 600 ppm, in this mix I found this to be a good balance, anything higher and they burn. All other factors being equal/stable they produce well and good density at this level. It's medium dependent though, if I were running a cold mix like straight-up Pro-Mix I'd probably go higher. I do find the BD's don't need as much N where the Blue Ripper's tend to get N defs if I don't crank it up a bit. I'm having to mix the feeds separately for these 2 strains to keep them happy. I go feed-feed-water from about 3 weeks on until the last week or so where they get just water.
GroErr
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I still use the AN Grow/Micro for veg and Bloom/Micro for flowering. Typically every other watering 400-500 ppm through veg after 3 weeks or so, once they establish a decent root system. 50/50 Grow/Bloom through the stretch and then Bloom to the last week or so. That's in a 50% triple mix/50% pro-mix medium. I adjust the grow/bloom/micro mix based on the analysis on the bottle depending on what they need, but not the total ppm. Don't use a lot of it and it does what I need so haven't really had a reason to move away from AN. My baseline with this feed/watering schedule is ~ 1 oz./gallon of medium with the CMH in 5/7gal for the Blue Dream and Blue Ripper (other strains are lower yield). Anything less than that density with these 2 strains I'm attributing to recent light/cycle changes, all else being equal.
GroErr
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All AN drama aside, their basic A/B stuff works just fine. I worked out my nute costs a while back at about $0.06 - $0.09 per gram depending on yield/strain. At that price I have a lot of other things I can focus on vs. cost of nutes. I haven't used any of their (or anyone's) booster/additives. Not necessary imo.
Mohican
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I saw Big Mike at the cup and told him to ignore the haters. He is a gregarious eastern European. In the '70s he would have been a "Wild and Crazy Guy." Some people equate that with stupid. I would like to see them go to Serbia and learn the language and start a successful company. When my
Aunt remarried I got Uncle Frank from Czechoslovakia. He is an amazing man and also very backward when it comes to modern life. He lived in a cabin in the woods there and he just isn't a city person. He makes some killer brandy
Anywhoo - my point is - I picked up some Bud Candy as a free giveaway at the AN booth and I am trying it on a few of these girls. I still think that MOAB from Mad Farmer and molasses are my best combo for pushing flower output.
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Mo
Aunt remarried I got Uncle Frank from Czechoslovakia. He is an amazing man and also very backward when it comes to modern life. He lived in a cabin in the woods there and he just isn't a city person. He makes some killer brandy
Anywhoo - my point is - I picked up some Bud Candy as a free giveaway at the AN booth and I am trying it on a few of these girls. I still think that MOAB from Mad Farmer and molasses are my best combo for pushing flower output.
blah blah blah,
Mo
DarthBlazeAnthony
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I made caps too. I only take 2 at a time and it's a mild relatively speaking. I might try and take 4 to feel the effects. How many Canna-caps do you take at a time? The decarb method I used was vacuum sealing the grinded herb and boiling @ 200 degrees for 1 hr 40 mins. I think it is 100% decarboxylated.Thought I'd do something useful on a cool, rainy Sunday. Most of this will go to 80mg caps.
Have another 5 bins to run if it keeps raining
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DarthBlazeAnthony
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I still have yet to use my dry sift screens. I might be too scared to find out my resin production is not as glorious as I'd like to believe. In any case, one hit of any of my bud gets me super baked so I guess that is what counts the most. I will be dry sifting most of this next round, using the rosin heat press, and the buds will be either medibles or go into the bubble bags. The so-cal temps are mild this year so the hydroponic plants are not seeing much deficiencies. Happy growing and cheers @GroErrSome Canada Day Blue Dream 100u dry sift. Ran 5 oz. of Blue Dream trim/popcorn, nice return again. This BD and JTR seem to be consistently higher yields than any other strains I run. Going to segregate the Blue Ripper popcorn/trim, it should return around this rate
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GroErr
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Your yield usually follows how high you get so you should get pretty decent yield from that one
Saw you had ordered that heat press, nice. Will keep an eye on what you think, they look slick. Cheers
GroErr
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Update on my search for some Blue Ripper pollen. I've popped a few seeds of the JTR x Blueberry cross to see if I can get a decent male to cross with the female killer pheno. Pic 1 shows 3 of the seedlings that have made the cut (threw down 5 seeds, 4 popped, one was too weak to continue). They were transplanted a couple of days ago into 1gal fabric pots, they'll flower out in the LED tent in about 10 days, whether they show sex by then or not. The best is the bottom-left in the first pic and it's a bit early but sure looking like some claw-like male features right now. The top-left is a Blueberry seedling that's sure looking like a male but not the greatest specimen, not sure if I'd even chuck any of it's pollen if it's a male.
In the same cabinet, some clones, 3x Blue Ripper, 1x JTR, and 1x Blueberry (seed which will flower with the other potential males). Have a couple of more Blue Ripper clones in the veg tent in 2gal's before they go into 7gal 3 weeks before flowering.
Flower Room at Day 32/Day 6. New batch of 2x 7gal Blue Ripper's is stretching into place, starting to pop small flowers at Day 6. Batch at Day 32 is looking good and maturing quick. These could get affected as I changed the light schedule (to 12.5/11.5) about 1/2 way through flowering but they're not looking bad at all right now.
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In the same cabinet, some clones, 3x Blue Ripper, 1x JTR, and 1x Blueberry (seed which will flower with the other potential males). Have a couple of more Blue Ripper clones in the veg tent in 2gal's before they go into 7gal 3 weeks before flowering.
Flower Room at Day 32/Day 6. New batch of 2x 7gal Blue Ripper's is stretching into place, starting to pop small flowers at Day 6. Batch at Day 32 is looking good and maturing quick. These could get affected as I changed the light schedule (to 12.5/11.5) about 1/2 way through flowering but they're not looking bad at all right now.
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bf80255
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Really cool man, I hope to hell you can find a male to match your special lady and make some magic happenUpdate on my search for some Blue Ripper pollen. I've popped a few seeds of the JTR x Blueberry cross to see if I can get a decent male to cross with the female killer pheno. Pic 1 shows 3 of the seedlings that have made the cut (threw down 5 seeds, 4 popped, one was too weak to continue). They were transplanted a couple of days ago into 1gal fabric pots, they'll flower out in the LED tent in about 10 days, whether they show sex by then or not. The best is the bottom-left in the first pic and it's a bit early but sure looking like some claw-like male features right now. The top-left is a Blueberry seedling that's sure looking like a male but not the greatest specimen, not sure if I'd even chuck any of it's pollen if it's a male.
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In the same cabinet, some clones, 3x Blue Ripper, 1x JTR, and 1x Blueberry (seed which will flower with the other potential males). Have a couple of more Blue Ripper clones in the veg tent in 2gal's before they go into 7gal 3 weeks before flowering.
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Flower Room at Day 32/Day 6. New batch of 2x 7gal Blue Ripper's is stretching into place, starting to pop small flowers at Day 6. Batch at Day 32 is looking good and maturing quick. These could get affected as I changed the light schedule (to 12.5/11.5) about 1/2 way through flowering but they're not looking bad at all right now.
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GroErr
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Cheers @bf80255, it would be awesome, that fem is a 1 in 100 pheno. Want to try and preserve those traits! Cloning everything before flowering in case I get a good one so I'm letting them go another week or so.Really cool man, I hope to hell you can find a male to match your special lady and make some magic happen
GroErr
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Hi all, been a busy summer, haven't had much time for updates. Been also fighting pythium, had it on pretty well all my clones. Source is likely the cloner, no slime or anything but noticed slower growth and just crappy clones in general. Did a major cleaning, put all of them on an H2O2 diet @150 ppm, seems to have cleared it up so far. Will try and get some pics of the indoor garden later.
Outdoor Blue Ripper's are looking healthy, budding for about 2 weeks. Should finish by end of Sept. no problem, nice
Shot of the 2x 10gal fabrics with a beer can for perspective, then a close-up of the main stalk of the one on the left...
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Outdoor Blue Ripper's are looking healthy, budding for about 2 weeks. Should finish by end of Sept. no problem, nice
Shot of the 2x 10gal fabrics with a beer can for perspective, then a close-up of the main stalk of the one on the left...
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GroErr
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8 days later these 10gal outdoor's are forming some nice colas, about 3 weeks into flowering now. 5-6 weeks before first frost so they should finish well before. Buds are already showing some early frost. Overall I'm pretty happy so far with how these are behaving outdoor, first generation outdoor and they haven't given me any major issues. Their colouring is good for this far in, no signs of defs or fading, should be a good haul 
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GroErr
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Update on the indoor garden. Been a few weeks of recouping from a case of pythium that looks like started in the cloner. Hit pretty well all my clones and I've been focused on saving what I can. Good news is it looks like I was able to recover everything, still working on trying to save my Blue Pyramid pheno, that would suck as it's my only indica, but another week and it looks like I may have a clean clone. That one sold me on the H2O2 treatments, I had pretty well written it off and even started a couple more seeds to replace it. Now it looks like I may be able to get a couple of clones off it and all new growth has good colouring.
Weird thing with this one is I didn't see any signs on the roots in the cloner, all were white and healthy looking, no slime. But I noticed the last 2 rounds in flowering, they'd get to about 4-5 weeks and dry out/fade quick from there. Then I noticed a couple of my clones were slow in veg/growth. By the time I'd determined what it was, almost all had something going on, even the clones were looking like shit right away, drying leaves from the bottom up.
Did a major clean up in all the rooms, bleached the cloner and put whatever I had going plus clones on 150 ppm food grade H2O2 cut to 3% solution. Looks like I may have saved the current flowering run (2x 7gal Blue Ripper's), they were about 2 weeks in when I started giving them the H2O2 when feeding them. They'll suffer in yield but looks like I'll still get ~75% and they look much better.
Here's the current clones in the veg cabinet. There's some JTR, Blue Dream, Harlequin, Blue Ripper, and Blue Pyramid. Only questionable one is the Blue Pyramid (center one on the right in 1gal) which was almost dead before the H2O2 treatments. One clone in the cloner is looking good and starting to get bumps on it, fingers crossed.
Fired up the LED tent which had been off for a while. Flipped the 3x F1 Blue Ripper cross seedlings to 12/12 after cloning them last night. Really hoping for at least one male, pheno 1 smells and looks great. The other two aren't bad looking but don't have the smell profile that P1 has. I'll leave any males in the tent and move any fems to the main flower room beside a couple of 5gal I just put in last night.
Flower room has the 2x 7gal Blue Ripper's at Day 29, somewhat recovered from pythium after 2 weeks of treatments. A little thin for this pheno as I cut away a lot of the center to deal with the pythium, but should produce a few zips regardless. Buds are looking decent for 4 weeks and better than the last batch at this point. In front of them are 2x 5gal Blue Ripper's at Day 0 which had almost stopped growing a couple of weeks ago but came back quick once I treated them. I cut 3 clones straight into soil before flowering and can still cut more if needed later. Running the 2x 5gal under the 210w bulb as the footprint will end up around 2x3', depending on how many fems come out of the LED tent, I may bump it back up to the 315w later. The group and a couple of buds at Day 29 showing some frost.
Finally, took a break from cleaning and up-potting yesterday to run the first batch of dry sift from that Blue Ripper pheno I've been running. I knew this one would yield high as it produces a bunch of frost, it yielded 9.8g of 100u sift from 80g of starting material, or 12%! Three hits from a pipe of this shit and I was stoned for 2 1/2 hours, the caps should be awesome
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Weird thing with this one is I didn't see any signs on the roots in the cloner, all were white and healthy looking, no slime. But I noticed the last 2 rounds in flowering, they'd get to about 4-5 weeks and dry out/fade quick from there. Then I noticed a couple of my clones were slow in veg/growth. By the time I'd determined what it was, almost all had something going on, even the clones were looking like shit right away, drying leaves from the bottom up.
Did a major clean up in all the rooms, bleached the cloner and put whatever I had going plus clones on 150 ppm food grade H2O2 cut to 3% solution. Looks like I may have saved the current flowering run (2x 7gal Blue Ripper's), they were about 2 weeks in when I started giving them the H2O2 when feeding them. They'll suffer in yield but looks like I'll still get ~75% and they look much better.
Here's the current clones in the veg cabinet. There's some JTR, Blue Dream, Harlequin, Blue Ripper, and Blue Pyramid. Only questionable one is the Blue Pyramid (center one on the right in 1gal) which was almost dead before the H2O2 treatments. One clone in the cloner is looking good and starting to get bumps on it, fingers crossed.
Fired up the LED tent which had been off for a while. Flipped the 3x F1 Blue Ripper cross seedlings to 12/12 after cloning them last night. Really hoping for at least one male, pheno 1 smells and looks great. The other two aren't bad looking but don't have the smell profile that P1 has. I'll leave any males in the tent and move any fems to the main flower room beside a couple of 5gal I just put in last night.
Flower room has the 2x 7gal Blue Ripper's at Day 29, somewhat recovered from pythium after 2 weeks of treatments. A little thin for this pheno as I cut away a lot of the center to deal with the pythium, but should produce a few zips regardless. Buds are looking decent for 4 weeks and better than the last batch at this point. In front of them are 2x 5gal Blue Ripper's at Day 0 which had almost stopped growing a couple of weeks ago but came back quick once I treated them. I cut 3 clones straight into soil before flowering and can still cut more if needed later. Running the 2x 5gal under the 210w bulb as the footprint will end up around 2x3', depending on how many fems come out of the LED tent, I may bump it back up to the 315w later. The group and a couple of buds at Day 29 showing some frost.
Finally, took a break from cleaning and up-potting yesterday to run the first batch of dry sift from that Blue Ripper pheno I've been running. I knew this one would yield high as it produces a bunch of frost, it yielded 9.8g of 100u sift from 80g of starting material, or 12%! Three hits from a pipe of this shit and I was stoned for 2 1/2 hours, the caps should be awesome
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GroErr
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Cheers Mo
Takes 2.5g of sift to make 22x 100mg caps, these should be an awesome combo of body and head stone
GroErr
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Well it looks like I finally got one of these elusive Blue Ripper males. Pheno 3 of the three in the tent is showing some balls! The other two are looking like fems a few days in. Will move them into the flower room this weekend and grow out some pollen in the tent
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GroErr
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Update on vegging/clones. Looks like they've all recovered from that bout of pythium. The last one I have to clone in a week or so once it recovers/grows a bit more is the Blue Pyramid (BP), although it's gotten its colouring back, new growth is looking good and the fact its growing at all gives me some confidence I can recover it. Once I get a clean clone I'll grow it out to the point of cutting some more clones and should be good to go. JTR's are looking great, normal growth speed and good colouring. 2x Blue Dream (BD MC - taken 2 weeks into flowering, so re-vegging right now) clones are also looking good, will grow those out to the point I can clone them and it'll be back in business. The Blue Ripper (BR) clones are also looking great, they've started normal growth and gotten their normal colouring back. 2x Harlequin clones are also looking good and growing at normal pace again. I threw down a couple of Blue Pyramid seeds just in case, looks like at least one of them should pop through. Lastly 3x soil clones of the Blue Ripper along the left side, took those just before flipping the healthy 5gal BR's in the flower room (plus took 3 more into the cloner @5 days into 12/12). Looks like 2 of them should root, one's looking a little droopy but not terrible. Since I have that male BR in the LED Tent, one of the three 1gal BR's in veg will end up in the tent for some pollen chucking to grab some seeds from fresh BR pollen in 30 days or so
So, my advice if you find you have pythium is not all's lost, even if it's wide spread like my case was. Get some 35% food grade H2O2, cut it to 3% with some form of filtered water. Feed it to them @150 ppm whenever you're feeding (I Feed-Water-Feed-Water through early veg). imo, giving it to them when feeding is key and "flushing" them with plain water between feeds (no H2O2 when watering-only). Reason I say that is when you give them H2O2, it basically kills any nasty's but also kills any beneficials so you need the nutes in there to allow for it. In a soil-only grow (my medium is 50% Pro-Mix/50% Triple Mix) you'd likely have to feed them as introducing H2O2 will basically kill any beneficials in your soil mix, which of course is what will also kill the pythium...
Pic of the veg cabinet identifying the strains:
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So, my advice if you find you have pythium is not all's lost, even if it's wide spread like my case was. Get some 35% food grade H2O2, cut it to 3% with some form of filtered water. Feed it to them @150 ppm whenever you're feeding (I Feed-Water-Feed-Water through early veg). imo, giving it to them when feeding is key and "flushing" them with plain water between feeds (no H2O2 when watering-only). Reason I say that is when you give them H2O2, it basically kills any nasty's but also kills any beneficials so you need the nutes in there to allow for it. In a soil-only grow (my medium is 50% Pro-Mix/50% Triple Mix) you'd likely have to feed them as introducing H2O2 will basically kill any beneficials in your soil mix, which of course is what will also kill the pythium...
Pic of the veg cabinet identifying the strains:
Cheers