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GroErr

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Good job Growie. That looks tasty. I'm still weeks away on the outdoor and yet to flip the indoors.
Cheers ANC, that's my medicine jar, only medicine I use. What pharma drugs have the side effect of getting you blasted? lol

Good luck with the outdoor, hope your season's not like what we've had here, rain every other day all summer. Kind of glad I passed on growing outdoor this year, would have been a nightmare trying to keep the PM off the plants.
 

GroErr

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Do you use a screen? How do you keep the kief it in place?
Yeah just a standard pipe screen, it doesn't go through the screen. It packs/presses easily, there's some moisture in there. That was a fresh run and I'd given it a shake, it typically gets small clumps once it's in the jar for a bit. My favourite part is burping those jars, specially the finger hash one :)
 

GroErr

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Sweet sweet kief!

Got the same dollar store jars...for my ph calibration solutions...lol
I like the size and seal is good. Have one with sift and one with finger hash on the go, kind of perpetual jars, they get dipped into, re-filled, and so on, and so on... I use them for my seeded bud, whatever is broken up when I de-seed goes into jars, have about 3-4 of those all over the house, pipe or vape ready. Eventually they get re-freshed and dumped into the hash bin, starts the cycle over again :)
 

Gquebed

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Cheers Rusher, it's a nice looking plant, quite different in flower structure than the others.

The Columbian Gold is looking impressive so far too, looking like a decent producer and may produce some colourful buds.
Very interested In the smoke report on the columbian gold. Had the pleasure of having a taste of it back in the 80s. Left a big impression on me... the buds were indeed gold in colour and it was unlike anything i had ever smoked.
 

GroErr

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Very interested In the smoke report on the columbian gold. Had the pleasure of having a taste of it back in the 80s. Left a big impression on me... the buds were indeed gold in colour and it was unlike anything i had ever smoked.
The first joint I ever smoked was Lumbo Gold. Laughed my ass off.
This is supposed to be landrace worked by WoS, if it is you never know what could be in there. Excited to see what the smoke is like, buds are looking good, lots of them on the P1 keeper. I smoked a lot of it in the 70's, distinct taste/smell for sure.
 

GroErr

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Day 19, stacking up and pretty well finished stretching. Adjusted the lights bit, handy having the multiple bars when the canopy is at different levels. Couldn't contain those Blue Ripper's at the back, their primary light is the 200w Citi 1212/90cri. They're ~40" from the soil line, taking up 28 x 48 x 50-52"H from the floor :shock:

Marked them up in the first pic, Blue Harley and CG P2 are in 3 gal, the rest are in 5 gal.

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

Gquebed

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This is supposed to be landrace worked by WoS, if it is you never know what could be in there. Excited to see what the smoke is like, buds are looking good, lots of them on the P1 keeper. I smoked a lot of it in the 70's, distinct taste/smell for sure.
Distinct for sure. I recall the CG clearly to this day, from 30 years ago from just a half ounce i had...never seen it since.... would love to hit that again...
 

GroErr

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Distinct for sure. I recall the CG clearly to this day, from 30 years ago from just a half ounce i had...never seen it since.... would love to hit that again...
Well if it's at least close to that old school stuff I'm thinking I'll be able to tell. That Panama I ran had that unique flavour and high from the 70's. Quite different from the hybrids we're smoking today. Just in case I'm about to harvest the CG male and hitting that flowering CG P1 pheno. Hitting the F2/P1 Blue Ripper pheno in there for some Gold Ripper testers as well ;)
 

GroErr

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@GroErr as you have used both cmh 315w and Cobs which ones do you find is better.
thanks in advance.
That's a tough one to answer because it probably depends more on what your preferences are than a clear "X is better than Y". Some opinions below based on running the 315's for ~2 years and COBs for about the last 1 1/2 years. Ran a mix of the two for a few runs as well.

From a production stand point I think they're head to head if comparing watt-for-watt on the bulb vs. COBs. COBs may win there in that the overhead of some ballasts, particularly when running them at 120v add some watts. Was going to do a side-by-side but it won't work with my schedule until maybe early next year.

From a heat management standpoint I believe the COBs running at lower amperage are easier to manage, there's less overhead (drivers vs. ballasts). Example here is I have 650w of actual draw (COBs) running right now and the temps running 2x 315's at this time of year would have been 84-85F, I'm struggling to hit 80F in there right now mid summer. Part of that is the 120v ballasts have ~50w of overhead so you're actually running about 370w per fixture.

From a quality perspective, I've seen lab results posted showing CMH can have an advantage on potency (THC levels), not that it means much but it has been shown to have an advantage. What sold me on the COBs was the terpenes were much better/stronger than when I was running the same strains under the 315's. Like huge noticeable improvement. Since that's my primary preference, smell and taste, there's no comparison imo. I'm talking about running the same cuts, and multiple strains/cuts I had running under the 315's so it was/is a valid comparison. If the THC levels were lower, they weren't low enough to notice it.

Of course if cost is a factor, at least initial cost to get going I think CMH wins there both because of the initial cost per watt and the bulbs lasted me 1 1/2 years between changes so minimal bulb costs as well. Some will argue that LED's will pay for themselves over time but to me that's a load of crap because you'd need to run them for many years to pay off in efficiency. Most if not all people who would take the plunge into LED tech won't run them more than 3-4 years and upgrade, many much sooner than that.

So overall for me, cost was not a factor in my decision so I prefer the COBs, besides the terps factor, the heat management is a huge factor in summer and can make the difference between a so-so crop and a wow crop.

That said, if I couldn't run COBs and had to select bulb tech, 315's/CMH would win that battle no question, imo it's the best bulb tech.
 
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