Grape God Grow Journal

Almost 2 weeks flowering......... loving life right now.

looking better than my room is right now

Flush............mine look alot better today than they did yesterday. No more silica for my plants, that's for sure.

SSHZ said:

Flush............mine look alot better today than they did yesterday. No more silica for my plants, that's for sure.

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Im in soil, but I ran lots of ph'd water through em 4 days ago some light ferts 2 days ago and will flush again tomorrow..then get back to the flowering schedule, and my shipment on new shiz will be here to use by tomorrow.
I hope they work well.

A friend tells me Green House Seeds sells some similar all in one powdered veg and bloom shit.

I've seen a few others available too over the years. Really, the only other one I would consider is the "pH Perfect" stuff from AN.....seems like it would be easier not having to worry about the pH all the time. I just find Botanicare gives me consistent results every time, it's easy to acquire, reasonably priced (Pure Blend Pro), etc.........but you're a risk-taker always pushing the envelop further and further so good luck with it! LOL

SSHZ said:

I've seen a few others available too over the years. Really, the only other one I would consider is the "pH Perfect" stuff from AN.....seems like it would be easier not having to worry about the pH all the time. I just find Botanicare gives me consistent results every time, it's easy to acquire, reasonably priced (Pure Blend Pro), etc.........but you're a risk-taker always pushing the envelop further and further so good luck with it! LOL

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I am having poor results in my opinion.
I use the GH brand.
I think they are too heavily based on salts.

I thought I mentioned this already but.......I only do GH for hydroponics. Don't like like it for soil. You need to flush a lot when using it because it builds up quickly. I think we are saying the same thing actually.

SSHZ said:

I thought I mentioned this already but.......I only do GH for hydroponics. Don't like like it for soil. You need to flush a lot when using it because it builds up quickly. I think we are saying the same thing actually.

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Yeah I think you told me.
I always wondered why when I flush rusty looking water comes out
I used it since it is effective, but yeah the lockout will come suddenly and cause issues.
I hope my new stuff is better.

I just cant afford the 6-10 bottles of the name brand stuff.

What was your total bill for what bought? Do you use enzymes i.e. Prozyme, Cannazyme, Sensizyme, etc?

SSHZ said:

What was your total bill for what bought? Do you use enzymes i.e. Prozyme, Cannazyme, Sensizyme, etc?

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I Have never used all tat b4
In the current and past i use(d)
GH maxi grow, Gh maxi bloom, Gh kool bloom powder, and then I also use silica, liquid karma, and molasses.
I used calmag when I was using r/o but dont do r/o anymore.
Never used enzymes b4 though except last grow I used Canna Rhizotonic which was my worst grow since my 1st grow.

The Rhizo wasnt the problem it was the cut I got.

Enzymes eat back dead and dying roots making the roots fresher and better able to absorb. They also help break down fertilizers (works better with organics but there is still some benefit with "chemical" ferts) to smaller and more easily absorbed elements. Use them, and flush less often. I never have to flush, except when I'm having a problem like we did with the silica. Worth spending the money, IMO. Kyle Kushman has written a lot about them and there benefits.......

Ive only ever used a mycorrhizae when i would plant/transplant. Id just sprinkle some into the top few inches of dirt and mix it in.

Whats the difference using an enzyme as opposed to this??

Is it just concentrated or quick acting?

Mycor's expand the root system, attaching themselves to the actual root system and better enabling roots to suck up moisture (and therefore nutes). Enzymes eat (or break down) old roots. Old roots turn woody and lose their ability to absorb. Each item is different and serves a different process. Neither is quick but each is helpful over the long run.

Thanks! thats kinda what i assumed but id rather ask someone whos fucked with it several times than random scrubs on them internets.

Any you would recommend for the type of shit i run?

SSHZ said:

Enzymes eat back dead and dying roots making the roots fresher and better able to absorb. They also help break down fertilizers (works better with organics but there is still some benefit with "chemical" ferts) to smaller and more easily absorbed elements. Use them, and flush less often. I never have to flush, except when I'm having a problem like we did with the silica. Worth spending the money, IMO. Kyle Kushman has written a lot about them and there benefits.......

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The packs I have have several types of bacterias and all that is in there.
I dont want to flush so often that they are deprived and this new shit should need less flushing since it isnt all salt heavy.
I have a feeling this grow might have a somewhat happy ending if I am diligent.

Anyway today is gonna be my 1st feeding with the new formula.
I dont have a ppm meter (functional), and the local stores charge a ton for that shit, but I guess I gotta buy one since I have no idea what this formula will look like ppm wise.
I am using carbon filtered tap water (from a well) ppm 125, ph 7.8 as my base btw.
I have one of those 12" long 2.5" thick inline restaurant style filters to get the chlorine out

I went to their site and they do make recommendations as to how much....i.e. 1-2 tablespoons (or was it teaspoons?) per gallon. I'd start on the low end for now, watch the plants closely, and work your way up over time. A ppm meter is absolutely necessary....I use a dual pH/ppm meter, that is constantly on and just sits in my reservoir. They are not cheap, but helpful none the less. A good r.o. device (www.freedrinkingwater.com) is the best investment I ever made. I use the counter top unit and change all stages (4 filters) once a year. I have a well also and my water is terrible, as my property sits on an old peach tree farm and 50 years of fertilizer ruined my water supply.......

Ever since i got my RO its been alot easier adjusting pH and shit too . its been about a year and a half and im just about to replace everything.

I figured since i only pump about 5-10 gallons a week it can last a little longer than if i was usin all 100 GPD

im gonna look up a few things on different brands and types of enzymes.

i plan to change from Blue Planet Nutrients' organic to their "chem" formula. Are any made more for the "chem" side of ferts?

Not that I know of......Kushman recommends using 2 different kinds- 1 a dark blend and 1 a lighter blend. Prozyme is a dark blend, and has a very long shelf life. I believe the "lighter" blends have a shorter life and most of those available are the lighter type. I only use Prozyme these days and I'm happy with it. Cannazyme is also quite good. 5-10 ml per gallon, and I usually start using it around the 3rd-4th week of veg.

I think I make around 60 gallons of r.o. water a week on average and I replace my filters once a year. I can tell it needs it when the unit gets very heavy (heavy metals, etc. builds up in the cartridges) and the flow slows.

SSHZ said:

I went to their site and they do make recommendations as to how much....i.e. 1-2 tablespoons (or was it teaspoons?) per gallon. I'd start on the low end for now, watch the plants closely, and work your way up over time. A ppm meter is absolutely necessary....I use a dual pH/ppm meter, that is constantly on and just sits in my reservoir. They are not cheap, but helpful none the less. A good r.o. device (www.freedrinkingwater.com) is the best investment I ever made. I use the counter top unit and change all stages (4 filters) once a year. I have a well also and my water is terrible, as my property sits on an old peach tree farm and 50 years of fertilizer ruined my water supply.......

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I called and talked to them and he told me that 1 teaspoon is around 900 ppm.
So it doesnt take much.
I might star with less and work my way up.
The guy also said no need to flush nearly as often as with the ferts I use now.
Ill feed em tomorrow

thanks for the info! ill probably grab some prozyme after this harvest when i got some extra cash haha.

So is that with every watering? every other? what have you found works best?