Grafting two cannabis strains

Discussion in 'Advanced Marijuana Cultivation' started by gogrow, Feb 18, 2008.

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    gogrow

    gogrow confused

    i have a few trees and bushes in my yard that were grafted by my wife's great grandfather, and was thinking, can you graft two or more strains of weed together to make a super-mother for clones? theoretically you could have one plant that produces cuttings for several different strains. opinions?
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    fdd2blk

    fdd2blk POW Staff Member

    how come everyone keeps talking about this but no one will do it? yes, it should work fine.
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    Chiceh

    Chiceh Global Mod, Stoner Chic Staff Member

    I have often thought of this too. I have had success doing it with some of my roses so why not same thing? Hmm. Try it and see, lol. :mrgreen::peace:

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    gogrow

    gogrow confused


    sounds a little advanced for myself, maybe someone such as yourself should give it a shot. i dont have the space as of yet to even worry about having a super mother
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    northerntights

    northerntights Well-Known Member

    It should work but be warned, since MJ stems aren't that woody so by nature the wound will be more open to infection and rot. Your best bet it to check out a Bonsai forum for information on the process. Oh and pick up some Kiyonal Grafting & Pruning Compound and raffia. Those and a sharp razor blade will be all you need. I used to do grafting all the time when I did Bonsai and that stuff worked very well. I would go into more detail but it's been years since I have grafted so best just to research it...
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    fdd2blk

    fdd2blk POW Staff Member

    maybe i'll try it outdoors this year.
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    groprofosho

    groprofosho Well-Known Member

    ive done it! i have a mother plant that has 5 kinds of kind on it! I took my strongest indica (grows roots like a mofo) and made small 45 degree cuts into the branches (use brainches that are big enough to cut 2-3 mm into without cutting more than halfway through. Its best to do this near the end of the branch so you can bag it later. Dip the cutting in clone solution, and slide it in. Put a wet paper towel or something similar (folded up) in a clear bag big enough to cover the branch you are cloning. Cover the branch, with the paper towel in it (so the humidity will stay constant) spray the inside of the bag with a mister. Tape or tie the bag on so its sealed, and then wrap this with shade cloth or something similar so the inside of the bag doesnt get too hot. 2-3 weeks later you can take the bag off and it should be grafted well. I did this successively so now i only have one mother. You can also graft Hopps onto your plant- and when it grows out and is ready for harvest, the hopps will have THC in it. Then you can make weed beer! Good luck everyone!
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    bearo420

    bearo420 Well-Known Member

    i dunno, i just cant believe this though
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    stickyicky77

    stickyicky77 Well-Known Member

    I read in one of my beer making books that people have crossed hops with weed. It makes sense since hops is a close relative of Cannabis Sativa. Just think, a bud that contains THC, CBC and Lupulin. I have been thinking about trying to cross some good weed with some hops to make a really kick ass Ale. I was thinking about trying to pollinate some hops buds with some weed pollen and growing the seeds to get the hybrid cross. Grafting sounds like that might be a better option. Where can i find more info on grafting??? If i did try the pollination method, would it be better to use weed pollen and pollinate the hops buds or use hops pollen to pollinate marijuana buds for seeds to make a hybrid cross strain???
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    northerntights

    northerntights Well-Known Member

    The exparaments first done on grafting MJ to hops were a disaster. It can be done but you get nothing of use from it, for either smokers or brewers. Cross pollination won't work, been tried before as well and MJ doesn't even respond to the pollen. They are not CLOSE relatives genetically, they can graft but it's useless.
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    groprofosho

    groprofosho Well-Known Member

    Sorry hopps grafting is just something i read in high times, so i havnt tried it myself. i do know that grafting weed strains will work though, as im sitting in front of my bubblegum widow G13 nothern lights gooberry mother. Imagine when i flower her
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    gogrow

    gogrow confused

    thanks man, thats what i was wondering, figured it had to be possible. i dont give a damn about grafting weed with anything else... why would you need to? post a pic, cause im sorry, i'll have to call bullshit on this one until you post a picture.
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    stickyicky77

    stickyicky77 Well-Known Member

    Where can i get more infor on grafting???
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    stickyicky77

    stickyicky77 Well-Known Member

    Have you tried grafting hops to mj before??
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    gogrow

    gogrow confused

    it is well documented that it wont work..
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    groprofosho

    groprofosho Well-Known Member

    check out a bonsai book at the library. Many plants can be grafted and it is a technique used by bonsai farmers to create large roots quickly and often used to cultivate slow growing varieties such as the japanese maple, which will be grafted to the base or root stock of a plant that has fast growing roots and will establish more quickly....why wouldnt it work for weed? its one of the most diverse and easy to grow, most adaptive plants in the world. Ill post some pics when i can get a more secure computer. i dont like putting pics on computers unless i can trash them later. You can also grow several plants together from the base. If you grow two plants together by cutting a slice off of each plant's stalk and tying them securely together with clay to prevent drying they will grow together even if they are different varieties. Im talking about weed now here. From this point you will have two root systems leading to "one" combined stalk. Bonsai farmers at this point will cut the top off of the weaker plant and the roots will be used for the remaining plant. This creates the appearance of two large roots coming out of the soil when in fact it is two that have been grafted and pruned. Ill work on creating one like this and ill post it as well. Ill look at what this technique is called and post it later so you can research it if your interested.
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    gogrow

    gogrow confused


    im not calling you out on your info. actually i appreciate it, as you do know what you are talking about and not just pulling my leg. im not wasnt trying to say that you were lying... i/we all just love pics and was just wanting to see one, figured that would prompt a post. understand the security issues/paranoia, as i just started to post pics myself.

    how long have you been into bonsai? i know the root thing you are talking about, (but not the name) as my wife and i have been looking into some bonsais lately. looks really cool, but def takes alot of care and patience.

    btw, if you have pics, im sure i speak for the community when i say that i would love to see a multi strain mother and will gladly help you get your pics up securely if there is any way i can. how bout a bonsai pic to hold us off????:mrgreen:

    ps. bump up on your rep
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    groprofosho

    groprofosho Well-Known Member

    well i appreciate that. ill be sure to put some posts up as soon as i can. I especially want to show off my room as im proud of my watt to gram efficiency. My setup is as follows: a hallway of racks that have tupperwares on 2 levels....each rack holds 4 30 gallon tupperwares that each hold three plants. Two HPS 600's and one MH600 are in an air cooled glass tube hanging vertically on a light mover. The plants are about 6 inches from the lights as they move down the hallway. Im getting 2 g per watt and i dont have co2 in the system yet. Using both sides of the bulbs has improved efficiency immensely. Next im going to experiment a horizontal setup and try growing plants upside down so they have no gravitational resistance. ive heard of people growing tomatoes upside down and doubling yields.
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    sk3tch3

    sk3tch3 Well-Known Member

    hops is not just closely related to hops they are cousins. of the same species... cannabis. it is perfectly fine to graft them together because hops grows as a vine up a terrace or tress. if you intertwine the plant with the hops it will correct itself with phototropism. thus creating the graft
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    marijuanajoe1982

    marijuanajoe1982 Well-Known Member

    Hey I know I am relatively new to these boards, but I'm not that new to this game. While I have not attempted to graft any limbs from plant to another, I do know a little about grafting as I have a family member involved in agriculture, fruit trees in particular, and have seen some of it and had it explained. when you graft, no actual genetic material or DNA is from one part of the graft is used by the other part. its sort of like a transplanted organ. The usual reason for grafting is to attach a part of one plant which is fruit producing, but not particularly acclimated to a certain area, to another part from a different plant in the same species that is better adjusted to the region or growing conditions.
    Say, for example, you have a particular soil type that is hard and rocky and only one variety of rosebush, or apple tree, or whatever, has a strong enough root system to grow well and give good results. but you, however, want to grow many different tropical varieties. you could grow the hardy variety until it has a strong root system, then you slice the little grooves and insert little starts from the tropical varieties and now they get to use the big tough root system that is the only one able to get what they need. the grafted "limb" gets to utilize the strength of the root system, but it does not change its DNA or take on traits from the plant you graft onto.
    I'm not saying this topic isnt very cool. I think its sweet that anyone has done this, but i dont think it will make much difference in the final product. since cannibinoids are formed on the surface of calyxes and does not run through the plant like sap, it would be impossible for any psychoactive properties to be passed on by grafting. there could be uses for this in marijuana however, more research definitely needs to be done.
    A possible application for this might be something like grafting branches from a very tall sativa onto the trunk/stalk of a short hardy indica and see if you could get big sativa buds on a trunk that isnt 10 feet tall. anyway, keep up the grafting.

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