Good Ideas For A Documentary

LaKapitone

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<--Going to school right now for Digital media/video production. Just out of curiousity, What kinda rig are they letting you use? I'm actually lookin to get into DSLR filming as a start. I'm pickin up a T2i in a few days and i'm gonna get too work! haha.


And Same. i agree 100% with this
For the most part, I joined the class for needed knowledge that I felt I may not have had [which I have learned things, I won't lie] but at the same time I had much knowledge that the instructor herself did not possess. I find it more as a networking source for me. I also joined for the mere fact that I would not have to dish out $1,000+ on a Cannon, in this particular course, they supply us with 'Sony HDR-FX1' which is one of the higher-end [not highest] of HD cameras available for filming independently. I find it does enough for my uses, of course Cannon is the leader in independent shooting.

They also set us up with Adobe Premier fully updated to the newest version, which I believe were currently using CS5. Although I do not use this program for editing as I find Sony Vegas much more user-friendly & better all-around. I also use Photoshop CS5 for editing which is provided, I understand PS is used for graphics in photos on a norm, but can also be used for video-editing if you know what your doing. Between the camera & program alone, your looking at over $7,000 in savings instantly, so the $115 per-semester for the class is well-wroth it.

I think it depends on the area you live in as well, since I am just hours away from Hollywood myself & being in California, the filming courses here are much better then that of Texas, or Florida, you know? More filmmakers come here or start here, & most are made here, so we are funded much better then other states. I believe New York is a close 2nd, but even being a close 2nd, they are still far behind us as far as what you will gain by taking the course. They also hook us up with a state of the art green-screen platform that spans approximately 24x24 which is enough to film virtually anything, the only way to really go bigger is to be in a studio set-up. The technology between the camera/editing software we are provided with allows us to not only film in HD but digitally [of course] rather then with film. I, for one, find many advantages to using film over digital, but there is also advantages to using digital over film of course. Most theater/cinema's are set-up for FILM, they are ran through a huge projector, now a-days although, I have noticed all the newer theater/cinema's being constructed are digital screens, like many in my area. In fact, when you go to Fandango.com, they will state on the theater time, whether it is a digital screen or film, because many people prefer the digital screen due to quality/clarity, the quality is untouchable as apposed to film.

Sorry if this was to much information, I'm a writer, so... anytime you engage in conversation with me... expect a lot of reading, too me, this isn't even considered a lot. Lol.

EDIT; If you plan to shoot films, I would not go the rout of DSLR. That's just my own personal opinion, you will get better results elsewhere. Your going to be spending a grip of doe to begin with on a DSLR, in the hundreds, you might as well go big or go home & save for an extra month or two longer to get the better product. Chances are, once you get your camera, you won't begin shooting for a few weeks/months anyways, so with that spare time, why not hold off, save, then buy? In the meantime, begin brainstorming/perfecting what you plan to develop. Developing a film is much more difficult then shooting a film. Shooting takes 2-3 months depending on you/your actors schedules, writing/editing a film can take anywhere from 1/2 a year to 3 years... not many times will you find a film that was shot over a 3 year span. Usually a film takes so long to release in theater due to editing, writing, not shooting.
 

Auzzie07

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"not many times will you find a film that was shot over a 3 year span. Usually a film takes so long to release in theater due to editing, writing, not shooting."

Look into the mumblecore movement going on. Indie filmmakers making features whenever they get freetime from their job, on the weekends mostly. Some of these filmmakers take years to finish their mumblecore movie. Interesting idea/workflow.

As far as DSLR vs. a high-end video camera, the biggest drawback to most DSLRs is the auto-off timer on it. With the 7D you can't shoot for more than 7-12 minutes, and if you have a scene you want a long take on, you'll need that extra time that a non-DSLR offers.

Digital vs. Film - Digital is much, much, much cheaper; and can (if done correctly) have a nearly identical aesthetic as the film look.
 

LaKapitone

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"not many times will you find a film that was shot over a 3 year span. Usually a film takes so long to release in theater due to editing, writing, not shooting."

Look into the mumblecore movement going on. Indie filmmakers making features whenever they get freetime from their job, on the weekends mostly. Some of these filmmakers take years to finish their mumblecore movie. Interesting idea/workflow.

As far as DSLR vs. a high-end video camera, the biggest drawback to most DSLRs is the auto-off timer on it. With the 7D you can't shoot for more than 7-12 minutes, and if you have a scene you want a long take on, you'll need that extra time that a non-DSLR offers.

Digital vs. Film - Digital is much, much, much cheaper; and can (if done correctly) have a nearly identical aesthetic as the film look.
Yeah, like I said, the film vs digital has pros/cons both ways, like many things. I, for one, prefer digital because for myself, it's easier to edit. As far as filming over a span of a year or longer, it is more known in the independent category of filmmaking, because like mentioned by myself & yourself... it all depends on schedule of the actor/director, etc. Which is why it's more seen in the independent field rather then Hollywood. Most Hollywood flicks, such as Spiderman, Titanic, Pulp Fiction, etc. are shot within months, sometimes weeks... relatively short. But the editing process is a bitch, were talking months AT THE VERY LEAST, it's rare to catch a film that took less then 3-months to edit & in most cases it's poorly edited as a result. I always hate getting a teaser for a film that FINISHED in May 2010 but won't release until October 2011. 1/2 the reason for this is editing, the other 1/2 is securing a spot for release. Many films, that are actually finished fully, won't release for months after due to not being able to secure a release spot in theater, a movie like Avatar will almost always take a spot away from a movie like Yogi Fucking Bear, because of basic revenue. Many movies decide to release in certain months of course, such as May, for better profits as opposed to December when your fighting against Holidays & Holiday movies.

The process is ridiculous, but in all... your making a film & that's all that matters at the end of the day, whether it took 1-day to shoot & $100 or 1-year to shoot & $1-million. But, good point by Auzzie, another drawback on the DSLR is the filming time allowed, I would highly take that into consideration. If your a filmmaker like 90% of the regular ones, it isn't really a problem because most shots won't span longer then 12-minutes, hell most won't span longer then 5 minutes before a cut scene. But if your a filmmaker like that of Quintin Tarintino, then you might want to reconsider, because some of his scenes are draaaaaaggggggeeeddd out & require a 12+ minute film session.
 

LaKapitone

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Lol your a filmmaker and your asking for others peoples ideas that you can use?
Obviously you didn't read the thread, other wise, you'd know why. Lmao, again, you fail to comprehend. Ouch! Thank you for bringing all my threads back to the front page, I love it. I also love how you not only got owned in 1 thread, but now 2! Wonderful! This is the last reply you'll get on this thread, because, there's nothing else to be said. You already dug a hole on this thread, sucks to be you. Now go back to my other one and dig a deeper hole. Then, go to my other threads & regenerate them all to the front page. Go now! Do as I say!

Lol!

It's a class project, I already stated I have IDEAS of my own, but they will take months to work out. I need an idea for a project that can be done in weeks. Many filmmakers go online for advice in school projects. You wouldn't know that though, because you don't believe in school. Thanks for playing!
 

Cyproz

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I told you i would get you to 100000 million posts so you could feel good about yourself.

Actually i owned you in every thread so far according to me.
 
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